That oline!!

[OldSchool]

Except that’s the actual order things played out in.
I guess it’s laughable that KC rolled out a guy last year who’s on a practice squad now.
I mean… they would never play a guy that bad, amirite?!?!??
Cheers!

You mean last year the line they had to replace? Yeah that guy wasn't good enough and they moved one. That's the whole point of the Chiefs off season protect Mahomes and get depth on that line. The guy that's on the PS this year wasn't good enough this year hence the PS. Just like Blythe wasn't an upgrade at starting center so they brought him in to backup a rookie.

 

[CGI_Ram]

I'd like to see us climb out of the basement in rushing (3.3 YPC) tomorrow. I believe our OL is better than this.

Yeah. Some early game run success sounds good.

 

[Kupped]

The very fact that they paid this supposed starting center less than they're paying their long snapper tells you they weren't planning on him starting. And the thought that a SB contender who was completely rehauling their offensive line to protect the highest paid QB in the NFL is going to be happy with as you describe a JAG at Center is honestly laughable. Spend tons of money and upgrade his protection except center we can skate by with this JAG.

At this point we're just spinning wheels. Have a great day.

This is too much perfect irony here to not have fun with..

"The very fact that they did all their offseason built around Corbett as the starting center, a guy with basically no relevant NFL experience at center tells you they weren't planning on Allen starting. And the thought that a SB contender who invested 2 first rounders into a QB that they believe would vault them into Super Bowl contention and not invest in protecting him is, honestly, laughable. Spend tons of resources at other positions other than Oline and think you can skate by with a guy who hasn't played in basically two years and when he did was just a JAG."

Talk about spinning wheels!!

 

[NJRamsFan]

The fact that a thread that is praising the play of our improved line has turned controversial is hilarious. Y’all still having the Goff debate through other outlets thinking no one notices

 

[hotanez]

The fact that a thread that is praising the play of our improved line has turned controversial is hilarious. Y’all still having the Goff debate through other outlets thinking no one notices

yeah, actually it very sad. I would imagine after these 3 games anyone can see that Stafford is a huge upgrade over Goff. We all need to move on. The Oline is definitely better pass blocking this year over last, it's not even close.

 

[NJRamsFan]

yeah, actually it very sad. I would imagine after these 3 games anyone can see that Stafford is a huge upgrade over Goff. We all need to move on. The Oline is definitely better pass blocking this year over last, it's not even close.

everything you said is 100% fact

 

[Kupped]

yeah, actually it very sad. I would imagine after these 3 games anyone can see that Stafford is a huge upgrade over Goff. We all need to move on. The Oline is definitely better pass blocking this year over last, it's not even close.

I'm slow, so I didn't realize just how much scheme and play calling seem to impact offensive line performance. It's one of the big reasons, in my humble, definitely not any kind of authority, opinion that the Rams have been so successful under McVay. Going into 17, there were plenty of people who would have had healthy doubts about the Rams Oline and for good reason. With a lot of the same personnel, they took a massive jump in one year.
So much of it, again, to me, was the fact that defenses couldn't just predict what the Rams were going to do based on down and distance or formation. We've all seen the strings of plays edited together run from the same formation but with much different routes, etc.
Over the last couple of years, from what I've read, opposing defenses started to develop more of a book on what the Rams were doing and could predict a little better what was coming.
I think having a holistic conversation about the offense and on how it all works together is actually interesting. It's absolutely not as simple as, "oh, the line is just better now", to me.

Again, no expert, at all. That's just why I think these things are interesting.

 

[hotanez]

Going into 17, there were plenty of people who would have had healthy doubts about the Rams Oline and for good reason. With a lot of the same personnel, they took a massive jump in one year.

in your opinion the Oline had "a lot of the same personnel from 16?

So much of it, again, to me, was the fact that defenses couldn't just predict what the Rams were going to do based on down and distance or formation. We've all seen the strings of plays edited together run from the same formation but with much different routes, etc.
Over the last couple of years, from what I've read, opposing defenses started to develop more of a book on what the Rams were doing and could predict a little better what was coming.

It helps the defense if said Offense loses an MVP type of RB in Gurley. The offense was never the same when it was put on Goff's shoulders vs Gurley's in my opinion. Although one can argue that McVay did become more predictable in his play calling.

I think having a holistic conversation about the offense and on how it all works together is actually interesting. It's absolutely not as simple as, "oh, the line is just better now", to me.

Again, no expert, at all. That's just why I think these things are interesting.

Knock yourself out, I have no problem in people discussing what they find interesting. Maybe start a new thread about how the 2020 Oline really sucked or was actually good. This thread however was about how good the 2021 Oline was playing.

 

[Kupped]

in your opinion the Oline had "a lot of the same personnel from 16?

It helps the defense if said Offense loses an MVP type of RB in Gurley. The offense was never the same when it was put on Goff's shoulders vs Gurley's in my opinion. Although one can argue that McVay did become more predictable in his play calling.

Knock yourself out, I have no problem in people discussing what they find interesting. Maybe start a new thread about how the 2020 Oline really sucked or was actually good. This thread however was about how good the 2021 Oline was playing.

Three out of five starters in 17 were Rams rostered players in 16. They brought in Whitworth.. HUGE addition.. and they brought in Sullivan who really helped. We can go back in time if you'd like and see how many people thought that was a bad idea because of his injury history, if you'd like.
But, yeah.. Saffold, Brown and Havenstein.. that would be most of the Oline, no?

The Rams don't have Gurley this year, do they?

The references to 2020 started on the first page of this, well before I chimed in about last year.

I'm more than happy to talk about this year's line and how well they're playing and did several times on the first few pages of this thread.

 

[hotanez]

I'm more than happy to talk about this year's line and how well they're playing and did several times on the first few pages of this thread.

yeah that would be great

 

[OldSchool]

This is too much perfect irony here to not have fun with..

"The very fact that they did all their offseason built around Corbett as the starting center, a guy with basically no relevant NFL experience at center tells you they weren't planning on Allen starting. And the thought that a SB contender who invested 2 first rounders into a QB that they believe would vault them into Super Bowl contention and not invest in protecting him is, honestly, laughable. Spend tons of resources at other positions other than Oline and think you can skate by with a guy who hasn't played in basically two years and when he did was just a JAG."

Talk about spinning wheels!!

Now that's funny You try to transpose your argument to an oline that had 1 weak link at the end of the year to an oline that literally has 5 completely different starters than the end of last year. I'm impressed with that not many would think to try to put those 2 situations on equal footing. You're absolutely right, the Rams needing to change out one position and thinking Corbett, Allen and Shelton per McVay it would be a competition (because that's the three people the Rams had on the roster to compete for the one position unlike the Chiefs who had 1 guy) is the exact same situation as the Chiefs. Well played sir.

Chiefs OL depth chart 1/1/21 prior to heading into week 17 and the playoffs.

Their current depth chart?

Now Niang ended the year on IR so he could have been in that first screen shot. But unless I'm not reading right there's 1 guy in both pictures and that's Allegretti who was their 3rd string center at the end of last season. Sorry I can't see how anybody would think those 2 teams are in the same spot at OL and Center especially.

BTW The current Rams OL is playing very well as I've said many times already in this thread. Allen, Corbett and Edwards have held down the middle nicely. I think a lot of our YPC issues are the RB injuries and hope we can turn that around as the year progresses though.

 

[Kupped]

Now that's funny You try to transpose your argument to an oline that had 1 weak link at the end of the year to an oline that literally has 5 completely different starters than the end of last year. I'm impressed with that not many would think to try to put those 2 situations on equal footing. You're absolutely right, the Rams needing to change out one position and thinking Corbett, Allen and Shelton per McVay it would be a competition (because that's the three people the Rams had on the roster to compete for the one position unlike the Chiefs who had 1 guy) is the exact same situation as the Chiefs. Well played sir.

Chiefs OL depth chart 1/1/21 prior to heading into week 17 and the playoffs.

View attachment 48568

Their current depth chart?

View attachment 48569
Now Niang ended the year on IR so he could have been in that first screen shot. But unless I'm not reading right there's 1 guy in both pictures and that's Allegretti who was their 3rd string center at the end of last season. Sorry I can't see how anybody would think those 2 teams are in the same spot at OL and Center especially.

BTW The current Rams OL is playing very well as I've said many times already in this thread. Allen, Corbett and Edwards have held down the middle nicely. I think a lot of our YPC issues are the RB injuries and hope we can turn that around as the year progresses though.

I’m sorry, I was told to stop talking about last year’s line.
Cheers!

 

[So Ram]

I don't completely go by stats. I watch the plays as well.

I have stated many many many times Blythe was okay on 1st down and 2nd down and less than 8 yards but when it was 2nd and long or 3rd and long and the other team had a decent bull rushing nose tackle/tackle - Goff was screwed. And the rest of the line was above average to very good. I won't argue that. But the stats don't show Blythe's weakness and why we had to run so many 3rd down WR screens, delayed hand-offs, roll outs, etc. I rarely saw Goff drop back on a 3rd down and long and hold the ball for longer than 2 seconds because it just wasn't there. He would have to dump it off as fast as he could within 1 to 1/2 seconds.

Stafford against Tampa Bay had 2 or more seconds almost every time it was 3rd and long. The OL this year is just so much better than last years OL on 3rd down and long. And it is all because they do not have a weak link in the chain this year.

And I am going to enjoy this year very much.

Cheers!

I don’t think you can compare Goff & Blythe vs. Stafford & Allen.I don’t think you can compare even Rob Havenstien vs. this season & last and not say The Rams OFFENSE LINE is better in 2020 than 2021.
Now you want to compare Carberry vs Kromer? I’ll let you post with Oldbutnotdead yet.
I think It’s BS to talk CRAP about Austin Blythe now.He was what he was.I still believe he would be good & better than Austin Corbett or Coleman Shelton. Let’s see your STATS there.
MCSNEAD F’d up in a way,but I would have LOVED to have seen MATTHEW STAFFORD last season under Austin Blythe.
For that matter I sort of wish we could have seen JARED GOFF under Brian ALLEN last season. Show me a Real Stat that Brian Allen was still hurt? I guess that boring JB interview
would have said it from his own words.
Still I’m happy for Brian Allen & his relationship with Stafford.How hard he worked with Mcvay pushing him to earn his spot.It wasn’t easy & in some senses far? Bonifay’d was right he can play guard? I don’t ever see him playing guard for The Rams.
Then again Bobby Evans is a whole different story.I don’t know any stats.What I do know is Austin Blythe was AN EXCELLENT RAM.He was asked to do more than his contract was asking of him.He was The Rams Starting RG that took them to a SuperBowl.I’d like The Rams Offensive stats on that Offensive Line? That Running attack was pretty special.Jared Goff is going to throw for how many yards this season.
I think Creed Humphries wouldn’t be able to give you a stat of how much Austin Blythe is meaning to him right now,not Brian Allen.I will guarantee you this though. Blythe is A EXCELLENT guy to have on your roster.That KC OLINE will be knocking some AZZ of the Ball as well from what I saw last week.

 

[So Ram]

Now that's funny You try to transpose your argument to an oline that had 1 weak link at the end of the year to an oline that literally has 5 completely different starters than the end of last year. I'm impressed with that not many would think to try to put those 2 situations on equal footing. You're absolutely right, the Rams needing to change out one position and thinking Corbett, Allen and Shelton per McVay it would be a competition (because that's the three people the Rams had on the roster to compete for the one position unlike the Chiefs who had 1 guy) is the exact same situation as the Chiefs. Well played sir.

Chiefs OL depth chart 1/1/21 prior to heading into week 17 and the playoffs.

View attachment 48568

Their current depth chart?

View attachment 48569
Now Niang ended the year on IR so he could have been in that first screen shot. But unless I'm not reading right there's 1 guy in both pictures and that's Allegretti who was their 3rd string center at the end of last season. Sorry I can't see how anybody would think those 2 teams are in the same spot at OL and Center especially.

BTW The current Rams OL is playing very well as I've said many times already in this thread. Allen, Corbett and Edwards have held down the middle nicely. I think a lot of our YPC issues are the RB injuries and hope we can turn that around as the year progresses though.

Well the 3rd string center was also the starting LG ? Now Nick Allegretti & Austin Blythe are 2nd string in 2021 for KC. Those starters were kicking the crap out of SD Chargers. That RB who was drafted ahead of Cam Akers & first RB drafted in 2020 fumbled twice.
I really don’t know your point.Mine is this OLine for KC is only going to get better & Austin Blythe is helping this rookie Big Time. He helped Brian Allen as well who was The Rams starting Center in 2019.
—Austin Blythe is an excellent backup
C/G. He was in 2017 & helped The Rams to the Playoffs.He never got the credit he deserved for basically being The Rams only real capable Back up Offensive Lineman.
I don’t know what else to say.I only question why The Rams didn’t pick up a RG Veteran FA in 2019. Les Snead did a great job finding Austin Corbett.

 

[Tano]

—Austin Blythe is an excellent backup

Sorry but I just don't see Blythe and excellent in the same sentence

He was average most of the time and way below average in the downs I stated

But enough with Blythe - let's move on to this year where we are getting excellent OL play

 

[Ramstien]

Somebody is acting like alittle Bitch!

 

[RamsFan4Life]

My son-in-law’s mom is going to ask Brian’s mom if the Rams have been working on resigning him


i’ll let y’all know

 

[So Ram]

Agree - I’ll add The Rams depth right
Now it a thing of beauty in a lot of ways we both don’t want to find out either.Somethings are better unsaid.

Sorry but I just don't see Blythe and excellent in the same sentence

He was average most of the time and way below average in the downs I stated

But enough with Blythe - let's move on to this year where we are getting excellent OL play

 

[Tano]

Somebody is acting like alittle Bitch!

I really hope that was not directed at any board member because otherwise that was uncalled for

 

[BonifayRam]

My son-in-law’s mom is going to ask Brian’s mom if the Rams have been working on resigning him


i’ll let y’all know

I would think that the Rams have offers on the table. Keeping this OL together for the Rams #1 investment Stafford has got to be priority #1 this offseason with 5 critical Ol'ers not having contracts after this season concludes.

It's sure going to be interesting.....

Rams this season are sure to keep an eye on all five........two with a history of injury OL'ers ...Brian Allen & Joseph Noteboom. Plus watching to see if Andrew Whitworth's body is capable of one more season in 2022. How much Austin Corbett will demand in free agency. How much will IOL'er Coleman Shelton improve in order to win possible open starting positions @ RG or OC. Carberry has his hands full.