That oline!!

[Tano]

Blythe was dogshit. Period.

Uh oh - Merlin has join me on Blythe's hit list.

 

[tomas]

if Carberry didn't think Shelton was good for the back-up job, we'd have probably opted for another Center during the pre-season.

I think Shelton is far better than what fans think -- and was a (3 years) solid starting center for the Washington Huskies

 

[NJRamsFan]

Blythe was dogshit. Period.

But it is also correct that this line is benefitting greatly from a QB who is killing the pre-snap reads and getting the ball out appropriately. Stafford also strikes fear in the defenses with his aggressiveness down field. That stuff affects the rest, in this game shit is all interrelated.

Agreed and I said as much in another one of my posts in this thread. It is not lost on me that the fear of Stafford beating the blitz, his pre-snap reads, and ability to torch the D deep is taking a lot of pressure off of the o-line. However I don't think Stafford's contributions and the O-line's elevated performance are mutually exclusive, the o-line is playing better this year than they have the past two.

 

[BonifayRam]

If Allen gets banged up for a few snaps or misses a couple games I'll bet you anything they slide Corbett over and bring Evans in at Right Guard.

Finally, we can find something to disagree largely on & it's only taken about 4 yrs . I bet everything I have @ RODville on that Corbett to center and Evans to RG will never happen but in my nightmares.

After what we observed from four games in preseason & 2 games in 2020 in the playoffs watching Evans putting forth all that effort to ensure he made an F on his blocking assignment ......you are willing to bet that Carberry inserts him to get Stafford smushed @ RG?

In my old small burned-out wore down brain I say that will not happen if Carberry has a healthy Shelton Coleman/ Tremayne Anchrum/ Alaric Jackson/ Jared Hocker/ Chandler Brewer, or even Jeremiah Kolone.

I am still of the opinion that there is a very good chance by the time that the trading deadline arrives Bobby Evans (who can be a decent right OT) will be on another team taking up the position of RT. Very hard to have 35-inch arms & be an effective RG in the NFL. Evans needs to be a OT.

 

[BonifayRam]

I think Shelton is far better than what fans think -- and was a (3 years) solid starting center for the Washington Huskies

Yes, I fully agree. Any ROD'er who still has the four Ram preseason games recorded & thinks that OC Shelton Coleman is NOT an effective reserve center needs to go take the time to rewatch those games.

It was the first time since he arrived @ the beginning of the 2019 regular season that we got to see him play more than a few snaps with the offense. After watching Coleman Shelton in preseason & now Brian Allen in the first three regular-season games the Rams are in the best OC position in well over a decade or maybe since Doughnut big brother Andy McCollum was here.

Praise & Congrats to Snead for this situation @ the center position. Now he needs to ensure that Carberry can develop effective Swing OG from his OL reserve other than Bobby Evans.

 

[tomas]

Yes, I fully agree. Any ROD'er who still has the four Ram preseason games recorded & thinks that OC Shelton Coleman is NOT an effective center needs to go take the time to rewatch those games.

It was the first time since he arrived @ the beginning of the 2019 regular season that we got to see him play more than a few snaps with the offense. After watching Coleman Shelton in preseason & now Brian Allen in the first three regular-season games the Rams are in the best OC position in well over a decade or maybe since Doughnut big brother Andy McCollum was here.

Praise & Congrats to Snead for this situation @ the center position. Now he needs to ensure that Carberry can develop effective Swing OG from his OL reserve other than Bobby Evans.

Fans only know what they see on tv they're not there at practice or the classroom.

 

[fearsomefour]

OL was never the issue. It's why they didn't force new players into it because they were someone else. They're playing well and have been for a while.

Well, for three weeks anyway.

 

[BonifayRam]

Fans only know what they see on tv they're not there at practice or the classroom.

We did have about a half dozen regular ROD members attending the open practices & they did report positive on Coleman Shelton early. CS dressed for 28 NFL games with only 28 snaps with the offense.

We don't really know what Carberry thinks of CS but as you pointed out he has a college history of having started for 3 seasons & during his four yrs @ Washinton CS has starts @ all five OL positions from time to time. But once he got starting experience down his coaches decided his best positions was the interior & from that he went on to be a good starting college center.

He did fit very well with the past OL coach Kromer's outside zone blocking scheme.

I have faith in CS being able to perform the starting RG post if needed.

 

[blackbart]

After what we saw in preseason I really don’t understand why Evans is eating a roster spot. Maybe so they can try trading him????

I would take any of about a dozen other options available to keep him out of the lineup.

Shelton at back up C leaving Corbett at RG would be my first choice in a disaster scenario. He is listed there on the depth chart.

Hocker is an interesting guy who might fit better than Evans at this point.

 

[Soul Surfer]

Finally, we can find something to disagree largely on & it's only taken about 4 yrs . I bet everything I have @ RODville on that Corbett to center and Evans to RG will never happen but in my nightmares.

After what we observed from four games in preseason & 2 games in 2020 in the playoffs watching Evans putting forth all that effort to ensure he made an F on his blocking assignment ......you are willing to bet that Carberry inserts him to get Stafford smushed @ RG?

In my old small burned-out wore down brain I say that will not happen if Carberry has a healthy Shelton Coleman/ Tremayne Anchrum/ Alaric Jackson/ Jared Hocker/ Chandler Brewer, or even Jeremiah Kolone.

I am still of the opinion that there is a very good chance by the time that the trading deadline arrives Bobby Evans (who can be a decent right OT) will be on another team taking up the position of RT. Very hard to have 35-inch arms & be an effective RG in the NFL. Evans needs to be a OT.

I could see them going with Anchrum at Right Guard but I no way in heck see Shelton coming off the bench as the center.

Just not enough starting experience to have him come in at Center in my opinion.

I just think the comfort level of having an experienced Evans in there protecting Stafford is the way they will go.

We'll see..... but hopefully we WON'T see.

And that does not mean that I have a problem with Coleman Shelton as he seems to be developing nicely but every other one of our starters is a draft pick and there's a reason for that.

 

[Merlin]

Agreed and I said as much in another one of my posts in this thread. It is not lost on me that the fear of Stafford beating the blitz, his pre-snap reads, and ability to torch the D deep is taking a lot of pressure off of the o-line. However I don't think Stafford's contributions and the O-line's elevated performance are mutually exclusive, the o-line is playing better this year than they have the past two.

They are certainly not mutually exclusive.

I think the reason we see so much overreaction with the OL discussion is its relation to so many QB arguments where posters completely ignored the QB role in anticipating pressure up front in his pre-snap reads, i.e. wanting to only blame the OL. It was part of that "excuse making" stage of Goff's final slide in 2020. And there are still some around here that want to be right about their previous stance.

The Miami game is the most hilarious example of that. But either way I think we've all learned a lot through that period and it's going to be hard to be sour about it for those people when they see this offense consistently quarterbacked at a higher level.

 

[12intheBox]

A QB can make an O line look better. Getting the right protections called, making the right audibles, reading the coverage and getting the ball out quickly when it need to get out, pocket presence.

The line is playing great - don’t get me wrong - I just don’t think they have been as bad the last few years as many here have thought.

 

[Tano]

A QB can make an O line look better. Getting the right protections called, making the right audibles, reading the coverage and getting the ball out quickly when it need to get out, pocket presence.

The line is playing great - don’t get me wrong - I just don’t think they have been as bad the last few years as many here have thought.

Four of the players on the line were playing well but one was not and as the saying goes one weak link in a chain...

I kept saying over and over and over again last year - we get a good center - we will have a good to very good OL.

 

[hotanez]

We'll see..... but hopefully we WON'T see.

I can agree 100% with you on this

 

[NJRamsFan]

They are certainly not mutually exclusive.

I think the reason we see so much overreaction with the OL discussion is its relation to so many QB arguments where posters completely ignored the QB role in anticipating pressure up front in his pre-snap reads, i.e. wanting to only blame the OL. It was part of that "excuse making" stage of Goff's final slide in 2020. And there are still some around here that want to be right about their previous stance.

The Miami game is the most hilarious example of that. But either way I think we've all learned a lot through that period and it's going to be hard to be sour about it for those people when they see this offense consistently quarterbacked at a higher level.

I'm not really sure why you're saying this to me tbh

 

[OldSchool]

After what we saw in preseason I really don’t understand why Evans is eating a roster spot. Maybe so they can try trading him????

I would take any of about a dozen other options available to keep him out of the lineup.

Shelton at back up C leaving Corbett at RG would be my first choice in a disaster scenario. He is listed there on the depth chart.

Hocker is an interesting guy who might fit better than Evans at this point.

Anchrum was just designated to return for what it's worth. Should likely see an OL for OL move along with Obo also activated to probably take Hollins spot.

 

[Angry Ram]

Well, for three weeks anyway.

Nah, they were good last season as well. I didn't see the sieve line that others do.

 

[Kupped]

Nah, they were good last season as well. I didn't see the sieve line that others do.

I think they're definitely better this year, but I think that they were better than many say they were last year.
Allen is an upgrade, but I don't think we can discount the difference Stafford makes in helping setting everyone up for success.

 

[Angry Ram]

I think they're definitely better this year, but I think that they were better than many say they were last year.
Allen is an upgrade, but I don't think we can discount the difference Stafford makes in helping setting everyone up for success.

100%.

 

[Merlin]

I'm not really sure why you're saying this to me tbh

It's not being "said to you." It is simply an observation that there is a connection between people mixing OL improvement and QB improvement due to old stances on the board. It very much ties in with what you said re: the two not being mutually exclusive.