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Tano said:
I re-watched this play last night and paused it at a couple spots and he appears to start to go down where the referee spotted the ball but I can't see when his knees hit the ground.

They could have hit a yard short, a half yard short or at the first down marker.

From what I could tell, my best bet is that he was a half yard short.

I am going to check the All 22 tonight to see if I can get a better angle of when Gurley's knee actually hit.
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If you can post stills that would be great of you.

There has been a lot posted about this and I'm up in the air.
 
LesBaker said:
If you can post stills that would be great of you.

There has been a lot posted about this and I'm up in the air.
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I'll go back and try to see if I can do a still screenshot and post what I find from the All 22.

I am not great at that. Can someone tell me how to do that.
 
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https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2018/10/08/nfl-week-5-cleveland-browns-fmia-peter-king/

I wish the article had mentioned Todd Gurley’s run on 2nd-and-8 with 2:00 left in the Rams-Seahawks game. Great run, and the ball was clearly past the first-down marker as his knee hit the ground. But the ref spotted the ball ALMOST TWO YARDS behind the correct spot. It was one of the most shockingly incompetent ball-spottings I’ve ever seen. Fortunately they converted on fourth down to win the game anyway, otherwise this huge mistake would’ve been the deciding difference in the game.
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I agree 100%. It illustrates a pretty simple flaw in the replay system. It came in the final two minutes, so the challenge had to come from the replay booth, but the broadcast never showed a replay of the play (they put the Rams upcoming schedule on the screen and discussed that during the timeout, instead of replaying one of the most important calls of the game)
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Another question is why it was not reviewed by replay since there were under 2 minutes in the game. That and the TD reversal kind of makes me think that the NFL was favoring the seahawks because they knew if the rams won the game, the division race in the West was pretty much all but over and that affects ratings. Luckily McVay went for it on 4th to close the game out and took it out of the refs hands if Seattle had gotten the ball back.
 
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this gurley td reversal, is that the one where he got flipped over and his elbow hit the ground? if that's it then the ball was clearly short of the line when his elbow hit the ground.

in regards to the moore td when he ran out of bounds, i'm not sure how it wasn't reversed. and the coverage only showed the replay once. crazy.

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I hate to admit it but I did see a replay on Gurley's reversed touchdown that appeared to show his forearm hitting the ground before he reached the ball across the goal line. There is no doubt the 2nd down run that was marked close to 2 yards short was a terrible spot. If he was short it was by no more than one foot.
 
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You know that interception in the Redzone in Q1 - was that PI on Gurley? Their DB was basically on his back?
 
I went to see the All 22 on the game last night and forgot that I have to wait 30 minutes after the NO - Wash game is over.

Sorry - east coast time is way too late for me to do that
 
bubbaramfan said:
He was all over his back, and got there way before the ball did, clear PI that should have been a ram TD.
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You are allowed to touch a receiver with your hand, like he did on Gurleys side. You can't grab. But, I thought he was early on his back as well.
The downfield block in the back noncall to me was the strange and obvious no call....unnecessary roughness, block in the back, take your pick.
The no call on the Cooks hit really just points out how badly the rule is written.
 
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Goddamnit...just as my blood pressure was finally going down after Sunday's game. Thanks for the reminder!
 
I reviewed( in slow motion) both plays and both calls were spot on. Gurley's leg and butt hit the ground before the ball crosses the marker. You could also see that the ref looking at the spot as Gurley hit the ground.
 
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I wish the article had mentioned Todd Gurley’s run on 2nd-and-8 with 2:00 left in the Rams-Seahawks game. Great run, and the ball was clearly past the first-down marker as his knee hit the ground. But the ref spotted the ball ALMOST TWO YARDS behind the correct spot. It was one of the most shockingly incompetent ball-spottings I’ve ever seen. Fortunately they converted on fourth down to win the game anyway, otherwise this huge mistake would’ve been the deciding difference in the game.
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Transparently bad spot that served a purpose of making it difficult on the visiting offense to close out the game with a kneel down vs the home team getting the ball back and kicking a far more dramatic game winning FG as time expires.

Clearly Gurley got enough for the 1st down...yet with all the technology and 2 min rules available the NFL continues to (try to) manipulate momentum in games.

That 4th and go conversion felt as much to me like a Rams win as it did a big fuck you to the momentum police wearing stripes.
 
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