Tegray Scales

[ReekofRams]

I have to agree with our man of many words @BonifayRam, as Cory Littleton contract is so minimal, plus he such a valuable piece to the puzzle to the special teams unit, and is at least serviceable to the defense, I just don't think you can beat his value at his price.

Don't worry @LACHAMP46, there's times when I agree with you, and when I do, then you're right.

 

[LACHAMP46]

I just don't think you can beat his value at his price.

Kiser and Scales offer better value....all they have to do is play as well.

 

[BonifayRam]

Kiser and Scales offer better value....all they have to do is play as well.

So very true.....excluding Mark Barron here .....Hager, Wilson, Littleton, Kiser, Howard & Scales will need to demonstrate the ability to stop the run period. I would think that's their main objective. Wade will demand these new LB'ers be the tool that will allow him to insert his Nickle & Dime defense that will raise down all NFL offenses.

Which two will win the right....#(1) to replace Ogletree to start ... #(2) the right to back up the Ogletree post?

 

[LACHAMP46]

Which two will win the right....#(1) to replace Ogletree to start ... #(2) the right to back up the Ogletree post?

I need to see more of Scales....see why I wanted to draft Malik Jefferson????

Hager, Barron, Howard, Kiser, Littleton, (listed as a OLB on website???), Okoronkwo, (think he needs to move inside to stick)....Price,(he better move inside too), Scales (the reason for this thread), Wilson (liked his combine), Womack (he BETTER move inside too).
Quite a list....very few certainties...
Barron is the only guy truly safe....

Now this is where all the "smart" players needed should apply...we need a signal caller...I'd pay to have JL55 come on in and instruct these guys on some keys....what should be called when...and the like...athleticism is still a high priority...getting of blocks....remember many ILB/MLB's started somewhere ELSE in college....the highlighted players are my favorites...to earn a spot...as a INSIDE LINEBACKER....Oko, if he moves inside....and can play..and can lead the defensive huddle.....will beat out Littleton.....Hager is a wildcard...dude can really run...with Suh, Donald, and Brockers in front of him, may be able to show what he could do....so may Littleton....but...out of these 4 ILB, we need 2 to call the signals....remember Ogletree last season....he was hurt and HAD to play?!?

 

[BonifayRam]

Los Angeles Rams undrafted sleeper: LB Tegray Scales

by Sayre Bedinger
https://nflmocks.com/2018/05/17/los-angeles-rams-undrafted-sleeper-lb-tegray-scales/

The Los Angeles Rams got one of the most productive Big Ten linebackers in undrafted free agent Tegray Scales out of Indiana…
The Los Angeles Rams added 16 rookies to the defensive side of the ball in the 2018 NFL Draft or through undrafted free agency, and one of the best players in terms of college production they picked up is Indiana linebacker Tegray Scales.Scales’ production at Indiana earned him All-American honors in 2016, as well as All-Big Ten honors in 2017.

The senior linebacker and leader of the Hoosier defense can factor into the Rams’ defensive plans in 2018 given their lack of great depth at the inside linebacker position in Wade Phillips’ 3-4 defensive alignment.Though the Rams will play many of their defensive snaps in a nickel look, Scales is a player that can help them in coverage, blitzing, and in any other role they would need him to play on third down.

Ironically, this Big Ten Network draft profile of Scales compared him to Alec Ogletree, who was traded by the Rams to the Giants this offseason and also pegged him as a possible fit for the Rams. Now he’s going to get a chance to compete for a roster spot in Los Angeles, and I think he stands a pretty good chance.

While at Indiana, Scales put up some crazy numbers at the linebacker position, especially given his lack of elite size or speed.At 6-feet, 230 pounds, Scales ran a 4.77-second 40-yard dash at the Scouting Combine which didn’t turn any heads, but he posted 27 bench press reps at 225 pounds, showing off impressive upper-body strength. Not only will Scales excel on special teams in the NFL, but I think he can become a weapon for Phillips’ defense as a blitzer.

Despite struggling at times getting off blocks when attacking the run, Scales has great instincts which led to 46 career tackles for loss. He also picked off eight passes in his college career and has a very good feel for coverage as a linebacker.I was surprised Scales went undrafted. When I watched him play, I felt like he was a possible 4th or 5th round player. Obviously, NFL teams did not agree, but the Rams got themselves a player that is going to make an impact.He finished his career at Indiana with 17 sacks, which is a very high number for an off-ball linebacker, including 13 sacks between 2016 and 2017.

 

[Merlin]

Not a 3-4 OLB...more of a Will....

I concur

Yeah we had two WILL/chase type LBs playing inside last year for us. I still don't think we have top-notch options or anything at ILB, but the fit is probably better and that's important too. Plus the fact that Wade tends to make unheralded ILBs a lot of money factors in too.

My money right now is on Littleton/Barron being the duo. If one of the other new guys steps up and wins it, even better. But the competition is definitely a good thing, hope it can produce what we need.

 

[Ants]

Special teams is SOOOOO overrated around here too.....Any good college player can play ST....well....Blocked kicks are partly design....partly hustle...no special skill...just "want to".
If he was so highly regarded...I'd doubt we'd have grabbed so many potential replacements for his position...on the D...and on ST's..

Total crap.
Being a professional means taking care of the little details. Special Teams is a HUGE part of the game...field position is important, and a few yards here and a few there is the difference between someone kicking a field goal against us or punting it to us.
You might as well say "any good college player can play QB or TE". Um yeah. They did it college - the NFL should be s snap!.
There's a skill involved in anything you do. It's all important in the course of a game.

 

[TheTackle]

I need to see more of Scales....see why I wanted to draft Malik Jefferson????

Hager, Barron, Howard, Kiser, Littleton, (listed as a OLB on website???), Okoronkwo, (think he needs to move inside to stick)....Price,(he better move inside too), Scales (the reason for this thread), Wilson (liked his combine), Womack (he BETTER move inside too).
Quite a list....very few certainties...
Barron is the only guy truly safe....

Now this is where all the "smart" players needed should apply...we need a signal caller...I'd pay to have JL55 come on in and instruct these guys on some keys....what should be called when...and the like...athleticism is still a high priority...getting of blocks....remember many ILB/MLB's started somewhere ELSE in college....the highlighted players are my favorites...to earn a spot...as a INSIDE LINEBACKER....Oko, if he moves inside....and can play..and can lead the defensive huddle.....will beat out Littleton.....Hager is a wildcard...dude can really run...with Suh, Donald, and Brockers in front of him, may be able to show what he could do....so may Littleton....but...out of these 4 ILB, we need 2 to call the signals....remember Ogletree last season....he was hurt and HAD to play?!?

Malik Jefferson looks like a WLB to me, but time will tell. He has many of the same issue that Ogletree had here when moved inside

 

[LACHAMP46]

Malik Jefferson looks like a WLB to me, but time will tell. He has many of the same issue that Ogletree had here when moved inside

I agree somewhat...I think most of Tree's difficulties came due to his learning the LB position....he was a safety....Jefferson has always been a lb....I think he moves through the trash better...takes on blocks a lil better...and is a much better form tackler...probably easier transition to the pro game...as a LB...specifically an ILB.

 

[LACHAMP46]

Total crap.
Being a professional means taking care of the little details. Special Teams is a HUGE part of the game

If it was truly important...then actual starters would take the field in the key spots...instead the least valuable commodities man the field....on what you claim...is a HUGE part of the game....

Todd Gurley would return kickoffs if it was so important...

You might as well say "any good college player can play QB or TE". Um yeah. They did it college - the NFL should be s snap!.

Very rarely, good college players make good pros....somewhat less rare (in other words, more often), great college players make good pros...

how's that?

 

[1maGoh]

If it was truly important...then actual starters would take the field in the key spots...instead the least valuable commodities man the field....on what you claim...is a HUGE part of the game....

Todd Gurley would return kickoffs if it was so important...
Very rarely, good college players make good pros....somewhat less rare (in other words, more often), great college players make good pros...

how's that?

You also have to take into account that kickoffs are the most dangerous play. You don't want to risk starters on that. Once you have guys trained for kickoffs, are punts really that much different? Similar enough skill set to might as well use them there. Plus it's a good opportunity to rest your starters.

Then you have to figure that you can't field 3 or 4 teams simultaneously, so you can dedicate some guys to special teams practice with the punter and kicker while the offense and defense are going. Economy of time. With that specialized time, they now have a dedicated skill set. Might as well use them in an important part of the game if they have that skill set.

Gurley probably could return kicks better. But then he'd be exhausted with a lot more wear and tear, not just from games but from practice. Shorter life span on a premium player. That's not smart. Throw in a specialist for a skill set that they can really dedicate themselves to. Extend everyone's playing time.

 

[Memento]

I need to see more of Scales....see why I wanted to draft Malik Jefferson????

Malik Jefferson fell as far as he did because there were reports that he didn't love football and had a bad work ethic.

All I'm going to say is that I'm glad that we have Kiser, Scales, and Howard, to go along with Littleton and Barron.

 

[Ants]

If it was truly important...then actual starters would take the field in the key spots...instead the least valuable commodities man the field....on what you claim...is a HUGE part of the game....

Todd Gurley would return kickoffs if it was so important...
Very rarely, good college players make good pros....somewhat less rare (in other words, more often), great college players make good pros...

how's that?

Nope, it's all about time management, player management and injuries. Why have an Offensive starter risk injury by taking a cheap shot while trying to make a tackle? Or why have an offensive starter call a fair catch, and then be blasted (on purpose) by an opposing player for the sole purpose of knocking him out of the game (and thereby no longer playing on offense)?
Sure, guys can take cheap shots regardless of it being on offense, defense, or a special teams play. I think it can seem a bit more "accidental" on a ST play, due to so many players going full speed down the field.

Don't get me wrong - the majority of the game is offensive and defensive plays.
But ST's are certainly important and have an impact on the result of games. Which (back to the point) is why so many of us value ST's.

 

[OC--LeftCoast]

It’s becoming more and more clear to me that Mark Barron just may be the most under valued player amongst ROD talent evaluators... ever

This guy is a big piece of our D boys, at least thats how i see it

 

[LACHAMP46]

But ST's are certainly important and have an impact on the result of games. Which (back to the point) is why so many of us value ST's.

Meh....as long as you don't turn it over....I think the field position thing balances out...what wins games is the offense and defense production.

 

[LACHAMP46]

Malik Jefferson fell as far as he did because there were reports that he didn't love football and had a bad work ethic.

That's coaching....he has talent...I think the Longhorns are gonna be loaded the next few years...that Charlie guy can recruit...

 

[BonifayRam]

It’s becoming more and more clear to me that Mark Barron just may be the most under valued player amongst ROD talent evaluators... everThis guy is a big piece of our D boys, at least thats how i see it

Mark Barron stands to be the only inside LB'er on the field most of the Ram defensive snaps. Wade goes to the Nickle defense rather quickly & if this DL does what its suppose to do & shut down the run ...then the Nickle will be the dominate listed base defense in 2018......CB NR-C will be listed as the starter in place of the mike backer (whomever that may be) is nothing more than a part timer at best.......

Thus placing Barron in the best possible position for his best season yet with Wade. Barron is a perfect LB'er for the Nickle defense.

 

[LACHAMP46]

Gurley probably could return kicks better. But then he'd be exhausted with a lot more wear and tear, not just from games but from practice. Shorter life span on a premium player. That's not smart. Throw in a specialist for a skill set that they can really dedicate themselves to. Extend everyone's playing time.

We were discussing the importance of the play...if it was really important, we'd have Gurley back there...I doubt 3 returns a game is gonna wear him out.
Longevity is another story....

Putting an alleged "specialist" out there, weakens the team...IMO

 

[So Ram]

It’s becoming more and more clear to me that Mark Barron just may be the most under valued player amongst ROD talent evaluators... ever

This guy is a big piece of our D boys, at least thats how i see it

If that’s the case, this could be the best defense in NFL history !!

— This Samson Ebukham is looking freakish.Last season when Barron messed Wentz’s knee up,Sampson was right there.

He is filling in & an upgrade from Connor Barwin last season. This guy is going to be a stud.

 

[So Ram]

Malik Jefferson fell as far as he did because there were reports that he didn't love football and had a bad work ethic.

All I'm going to say is that I'm glad that we have Kiser, Scales, and Howard, to go along with Littleton and Barron.

It’s a nice group to build with. Each player is going to get there chance.

Tegray is already showing up on tape.Kiser
Might have his work cut out for him.

Not sure who are the ones right now except E. Samson !!