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[OldSchool]

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i thought waiting for suh news was excruciating. now we got someone comparing goff to teddy b? i think i'm gonna have to ignore this thread now.

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Haters gonna hate, and this particular hater won't ever give up dumping on our QB.

 

[nanotech]

Total TD's.....2 years...because I said their stats over 2 years is very similar.....Teddy 28...Jared 33

Total INT's.....Teddy 22 Jared 14

Avg. Completion %%% Teddy 64% Jared 59%

Total yards Teddy 6150 Jared 4893

Avg. Yards per attempt Teddy 7.2 Jared 7.2 (IMO a key stat)

Won/Loss records Teddy 22-11 Jared 11-11

Avg. Yards game Teddy 205 Jared 222....or something along those lines....

Hmmmm.....yep, That's Dan Marino compared to Johnny Football right there....

Two similar players.....similar stats....decent.....Jared does seem to throw more effectively deeper....but I put the yardage on the new-ness of McVay's offensive scheme....Lets check the numbers AFTER a season of adjustment by the defenses....

20 years old....25 years old...they're all in the pros....this isn't 26 and under tackle football.

Which 2 "yrs" are you looking at? Did Teddy only play a year and a half. I really don't know.

 

[Stl2La]

hmmmm.....

Now, I haven't looked up this question....but I'm curious....when Keenum was operating the "worst offense in recent memory", was it still the worst? Or, was it the worst when someone else took over? What came first, chicken or egg?
Was Minnesota an offensive juggarnaut? I remember reading their o-line was terrible while Sam was back there. I saw them operate last year against us. Nothing special. The circumstances for both players seems identical in many respects.

28 games to 22.....I'm sure you can extrapolate the numbers....and YPA are identical....

I didn't come in here to make a point....someone commented on Teddy in NY......How could they be a winning team? I thought/think Teddy could make them competitive. When I compared Teddy to OUR QB, now I got a narrative...I have an agenda.....I even threw OUT the QBR....a stat that is designed to show how a QB's play effects WINS, and yet....despite proving that many of their stats are similar, my original premise, you continue to claim they AREN'T comparable players......OK You don't see the similarity....I do....
What I like about your claim is....it's firm....it states what you believe....and it can be proven true or false with time.

I will say good players can become great....but that rarely happens....what usually happens is, great players show greatness early in their careers.....and maintain it consistently through the years...

And.....you can have a good year..and revert back to your average self.....sorta like that game vs Atl....the last game of the season....

Yes the offense was still terrible with Keenum. Rams didn’t even have a td pass til like the 3rd or 4th game of the season lol

I’m done with this conversation if you think Bridgewater and Goff are the same qb. QBR is a garbage stat.

You praise Wentz and will find a way to make him look great in any argument. But you find any way to discredit Goff lol.

Guess what? Foles lead that team to a super bowl. He torched minny and the Pats. Is he better than Wentz? Can any qb look good on that team with Pederson calling the plays? Looks to be the case.

We get it you hate Goff, you hate Joyner, and you hate Kupp. They are all merely average and easily replaced in your opinion. The fact that you think that is hilarious and the reasons you give for that are even funnier.

That will be the last I respond to you on this subject. Make another thread if you wanna continue this discussion.

 

[OC_Ram]

Jokes?

Momma jokes?

Any jokes?

 

[CanRamFan]

Why don't we just create a thread called : Argue with Champ. We can sticky it on the front page and ban all such conversations in the rest of our threads. Poll ?

 

[kurtfaulk]

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your momma is so fat that when she walks down the street 3 smaller women begin orbiting around her.

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[OC_Ram]

 

[LACHAMP46]

Did teddy have Jeff fisher...yes or no

Think he had his bosom buddy....and ageing Norv T.

 

[OC_Ram]

Your momma is so stupid she ran out into the street and got hit by a parked car.

 

[Giles27]

Think he had his bosom buddy....and ageing Norv T.

Much better than Fisher.

 

[LACHAMP46]

You praise Wentz and will find a way to make him look great in any argument. But you find any way to discredit Goff lol.

I didn't know being average is a discredit.....I'm sorry I can't call him great.

Praise Wentz? I give credit...for greatness....when it's due....And what Wentz was doing last year was great....He was the MVP of the league...b4 his injury....for a reason.

Guess what? Foles lead that team to a super bowl. He torched minny and the Pats. Is he better than Wentz? Can any qb look good on that team with Pederson calling the plays? Looks to be the case.

Hmmmmm......And Pederson says Wentz is his starter going into 2018.

I won't go into why I believe the Pats were torched. But a guy that didn't play in the SB just got $62 million....and yep he's a cornerback.

We get it you hate Goff, you hate Joyner, and you hate Kupp.

Hate is such a strong word bro.....I don't hate anyone.....well, not football related. I don't hate Rams players....however I will note when I believe a player is underperforming (Joyner).....and when a player is performing adequately.....like average....decent (Goff & Kupp)....I actually think Kupp will improve, he was a "rookie"....but he's a slot receiver...and....IMO....I think those types are easily replaced. Oh, I love Aaron Donald....and for some reason, everyone...almost everyone....agrees with THIS assessment.....Go figure

Sorry to add some not Suh news in this thread....Hell, it's Saturday....T-Ball is finished for the day...Travel team is done til tomorrow...and this was a topic of why Suh MIGHT like the Jets....besides the money. They can win.....anyone can. If they have the proper coaching....Winning in the playoffs is another story......which is why I don't care for average players :fuelfire:at KEY positions.:neener:

 

[kurtfaulk]

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i just found the al bundy joke i posted earlier.



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[Kevin]

I like you....

What is so different? 2 years of production...I think they both had either 2 OC's or 2 different HC's....what is SO different? Because the differences...while slight...favor one guy.....and, we'll throw that QBR difference...which is surprisingly close, out...since yall don't like QBR.

Well, I live in Minnesota and watch the Vikings every day because that is THE noon game on Sundays. I have watched every game Teddy “Two Gloves” Bridgewater has played. At this point, you are trolling your own friends on this forum.

 

[wolfdogg]

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i thought waiting for suh news was excruciating. now we got someone comparing goff to teddy b? i think i'm gonna have to ignore this thread now.

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Ha! But did you turn off your notifications? I almost want this thread to last another week so we can see where the sanity level will be. People will be comparing Gurley to richard Nixon and tomatoes while some who arent high on suh now will be clamoring for him and other current suh fans will be sending him death threats.

 

[OC--LeftCoast]

I didn't know being average is a discredit.....I'm sorry I can't call him great.

Praise Wentz? I give credit...for greatness....when it's due....And what Wentz was doing last year was great....He was the MVP of the league...b4 his injury....for a reason.

Hmmmmm......And Pederson says Wentz is his starter going into 2018.

I won't go into why I believe the Pats were torched. But a guy that didn't play in the SB just got $62 million....and yep he's a cornerback.
Hate is such a strong word bro.....I don't hate anyone.....well, not football related. I don't hate Rams players....however I will note when I believe a player is underperforming (Joyner).....and when a player is performing adequately.....like average....decent (Goff & Kupp)....I actually think Kupp will improve, he was a "rookie"....but he's a slot receiver...and....IMO....I think those types are easily replaced. Oh, I love Aaron Donald....and for some reason, everyone...almost everyone....agrees with THIS assessment.....Go figure

Sorry to add some not Suh news in this thread....Hell, it's Saturday....T-Ball is finished for the day...Travel team is done til tomorrow...and this was a topic of why Suh MIGHT like the Jets....besides the money. They can win.....anyone can. If they have the proper coaching....Winning in the playoffs is another story......which is why I don't care for average players :fuelfire:at KEY positions.:neener:

And...wonder boy managed to sustain a significant injury for his 3rd consecutive year

Hate to say it Amigo, but injuries in 3 consecutive seasons (6 weeks missed, 4 weeks missed then throw in the major ACL) well, there appears to be a cause for concern

We dodged a BIGTIME bullet not drafting “potato chip Wentz”

Oh, and did I mention he only HAS 3 years AS a starting QB (College and Pro combined)

Just the facts my man

Just the facts

Ps;

Ganging up on Champ is way better than jokes? We get 15 bonus pages cuz of this boys!

 

[den-the-coach]

Haters gonna hate, and this particular hater won't ever give up dumping on our QB.

Hey @OldSchool was this your post from The Herd Board?

Tonight I heard from a very reliable source....The Rams are signing SUH.

Just sayin'............I will tell you the story later my fellow Ram Fans.

Right now, I am not talking because I don't want to Jinx it.

Oh, and it's a pretty good story.........GO RAMS!!!!!!!

 

[Boston Ram]

Ok, I am officially confused. Is this the Goff thread or how I met your mother thread?!

 

[LACHAMP46]

Yes the offense was still terrible with Keenum. Rams didn’t even have a td pass til like the 3rd or 4th game of the season lol

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/ram/2016.htm
Not good....bad even....couple of outburst....Tampa game...fond memories.....Bomb to Quick....Bomb to Tavon....That was the 3rd game....

but pretty much same Case....60% completions.....finished 9-td's 11- int's....meh....pretty bad....but not like.....ahahahahaahahahahahah.

The only real difference in Case is the turnovers....Y/A is pretty bad too....

Oh yeah....Case is decent....not great....what....what's that?!? One great year (decent), and I don't consider him good/great....decent.

QBR is a garbage stat.

Lots of minds went into this stat.....lots of ex-professionals reviewed this stat and said that works....Polian....Mark Dominik, Louis Riddick, and Phil Savage....and it's still used by some in the league

Bill's Championship Indicators (BCI): A formula, developed by Bill Polian, consisting of the following team stats that would generally quantify a team as being a potential Super Bowl champion:

• Yards per pass attempt:yess:
• Points allowed per game
• Turnover margin
• Kicking efficiency
• 3rd down efficiency on offense:rolllaugh:
• 3rd down efficiency on defense
• QBR for the team
• QBR for the opposing team

....but because we don't like the results, it's a garbage stat?!?

 

[den-the-coach]

Ok, I am officially confused. Is this the Goff thread or how I met your mother thread?!

Neither, it's a Simon and Garfunkel thread about their song...Bridge over troubled water.