Literally nothing is similar.
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11-5 last season as a starter....effective enough for you?
IDK....most of that is mental...as long as the mental processing speed continues to improve....he'll get a lil better.....I'd much rather he spent some extra time in the weight room tho.
He was ok when he left...I'd expect him to be "ok" when he returns...nothing special. Decent...
I like you....
What is so different? 2 years of production...I think they both had either 2 OC's or 2 different HC's....what is SO different? Because the differences...while slight...favor one guy.....and, we'll throw that QBR difference...which is surprisingly close, out...since yall don't like QBR.
The difference is every single stat except wins. This is like saying your two favorite foods are Lobster and Skittles.
Jared Goff’s season at 23 yrs old blows Teddy’s best season away which was also at 23 yrs old. Literally doubles his td production. Teddy barely averaged over 200 ypg. Goff is much better both stastically and by the eye test.
Though you could argue that Bridgewater had a better season at 23 than Wentz did at age 24
Goff got thrown into the NFL's worst offense without NFL level coaching, and struggled his rookie season. He got some coaching, and had a pro bowl season.
Bridgewater did better his rookie season, but then showed little improvement his 2nd year. QBR is the only thing that he looked as good as Goff - but since QBR was intentionally designed to make running QBs look better, and the Rams' system was set up intentionally that the QB should not run, that means less than nothing.
Goff threw for longer per attempt, longer per completion, more touchdowns, fewer interceptions despite throwing more.
Do you really think that after two years of rehabbing, that Bridgewater is likely to even be as good as he was in his last healthy season? I'd put the odds as fairly long on that.
Bridgewater did better his rookie season, but then showed little improvement his 2nd year. QBR is the only thing that he looked as good as Goff - but since QBR was intentionally designed to make running QBs look better, and the Rams' system was set up intentionally that the QB should not run, that means less than nothing.
Goff threw for longer per attempt, longer per completion, more touchdowns, fewer interceptions despite throwing more.
Do you really think that after two years of rehabbing, that Bridgewater is likely to even be as good as he was in his last healthy season? I'd put the odds as fairly long on that.
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Yes...because he was able to develop muscle in areas that he probably has neglected over the years.
Total TD's.....2 years...because I said their stats over 2 years is very similar.....Teddy 28...Jared 33
Total INT's.....Teddy 22 Jared 14
Avg. Completion %%% Teddy 64% Jared 59%
Total yards Teddy 6150 Jared 4893
Avg. Yards per attempt Teddy 7.2 Jared 7.2 (IMO a key stat)
Won/Loss records Teddy 22-11 Jared 11-11
Avg. Yards game Teddy 205 Jared 222....or something along those lines....
Hmmmm.....yep, That's Dan Marino compared to Johnny Football right there....
Two similar players.....similar stats....decent.....Jared does seem to throw more effectively deeper....but I put the yardage on the new-ness of McVay's offensive scheme....Lets check the numbers AFTER a season of adjustment by the defenses....
20 years old....25 years old...they're all in the pros....this isn't 26 and under tackle football.
Lol ya let’s compare their 2 years totals when Teddy was a starter for 28 games and Goff for 22 games.
Also let’s ignore Goff came into the worst possible qb situation as a rookie. Worst offense in recent memory in the nfl and the coaching staff was terrible.
But of course then that would go against your narrative and the point you’re trying to make.
The more legit comparison would be to compare their second season as pro’s since Goff actually had compentent coaching and a functioning offense around him. Guess what? Goff will put up good numbers again next year. Why? Bc he’s a good qb and plays in a good system for his skills. He’s far from average. He’s a young QB with the traits/skills to be elite if he keeps progressing as he did this last season from year 1 to year 2.
Well they both are qb but other than that yeah kind of comparing an apple to a polar bear
You really trying to compare Teddy to jared? Come on dude it' not even close.
hmmmm.....
Now, I haven't looked up this question....but I'm curious....when Keenum was operating the "worst offense in recent memory", was it still the worst? Or, was it the worst when someone else took over? What came first, chicken or egg?
Was Minnesota an offensive juggarnaut? I remember reading their o-line was terrible while Sam was back there. I saw them operate last year against us. Nothing special. The circumstances for both players seems identical in many respects.
28 games to 22.....I'm sure you can extrapolate the numbers....and YPA are identical....
I didn't come in here to make a point....someone commented on Teddy in NY......How could they be a winning team? I thought/think Teddy could make them competitive. When I compared Teddy to OUR QB, now I got a narrative...I have an agenda.....I even threw OUT the QBR....a stat that is designed to show how a QB's play effects WINS, and yet....despite proving that many of their stats are similar, my original premise, you continue to claim they AREN'T comparable players......OK You don't see the similarity....I do....
What I like about your claim is....it's firm....it states what you believe....and it can be proven true or false with time.
I will say good players can become great....but that rarely happens....what usually happens is, great players show greatness early in their careers.....and maintain it consistently through the years...
And.....you can have a good year..and revert back to your average self.....sorta like that game vs Atl....the last game of the season....
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i thought waiting for suh news was excruciating. now we got someone comparing goff to teddy b? i think i'm gonna have to ignore this thread now.
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i thought waiting for suh news was excruciating. now we got someone comparing goff to teddy b? i think i'm gonna have to ignore this thread now.
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First the GIFs, then the jokes, now Champ helping derail this thread further? Can Suh just sign with us please and end this shit?