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Gurley and SJ were both great Rams and I'm glad they were ours.

SJ wasn't a complete player when he first started out but to his credit he was humble and committed enough to improve. He wasn't the only one who did that jump cut. LDT and Edge James did it too. Pat Willis always said it made it harder on him to tackle, not easier. Added pass catching and pass blocking to his game and checked off every box as an RB. His 2006 season remains among the best a RB ever had. 7th most yards from scrimmage in a season and only the second RB, other than LDT, to rush for 1500 yards and catch 90 passes in the same year. But his 2009 season was probably even better. Led the NFC in rushing on a 1-15 team and played against eight and nine man fronts and through a herniated disc in his back. Too many hopeless Sundays back then but Jackson was a pro's pro and could carry an offense on his shoulders.

He didn't score as many TDs as others but running backs who play on bad teams usually don't. Their teams don't make many trips to the red zone. And for the Rams in that awful 15-65 stretch they were frequently outmatched at the LOS, and didn't have a single TE or WR near the goal line that the other defense had to respect. Or an offensive coordinator that could be creative. Everyone knew SJ was going to get it and they could stack the line with impunity.

On an offense where he had more help he undoubtedly would've had more scoring opportunities.

Gurley came into the league and also played for a miserable offense but he quickly showed his great speed and making defenders look silly with numerous memorable performances his rookie year. For my money he was the best offensive player in the 2015 draft. I remember Fisher telling one of his scouts to demonstrate to the draft room where Gurley should be on their draft board. The scout took Gurley's name off the board and stuck it on the ceiling, showing how highly they regarded him more than any other player available at the no 10 slot.

And then in 2017 Gurley became an MVP candidate in McVay's offense(and probably should've been league MVP that year). 4 TDs in 2 1/2 quarters vs Seattle, that ridiculous 276 yard effort against Tennessee. We had the best screen passing game in the league that year too, he was such a dangerous player. And flawless in pass blocking too. As I recall Gurley didn't allow a single pressure as a pass blocker in 2017, the only RB to do so. In 2018 I really thought he was going to make a run at LDT's single season TD record, or Faulk's team record from 2000. And if he stayed healthy, he probably would've done so.

As Tony Gonzalez put it, Gurley was like a clydesdale, cheetah, and frog all rolled into one. And he was football smart, and a team player too. People made such a big deal about Brian Westbrook turning down the TD to run out the clock, the one time he did it. Gurley did it three times as a Ram, more than I've ever seen any other player do. I saved all his highlights as a Ram, and I'm glad I did.

If SJ39 had played on an offense that wasn't all him, and Gurley had been blessed with good health that other NFL players have had, I'm pretty sure both would've put up HOF numbers for their career. Unfortunately we didn't get those realities.
 

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The above Jackson Gif is 20 yards out. He had plenty of speed yes. But not world class speed.

Try to find a video of Jackson taking it 80 yards to the house like we saw with Gurley on the screen vs the Titans for example when Gurley reached 21.23 MPH, which was the fastest on the year and beat Adoree Jackson who ran a 4.39 at the combine.




View: https://streamable.com/823on


Great example. Gurley had that gear to run with the fastest.

I don’t recall many super long runs like that from SJ… but my goodness was it a blast to watch this:



View: https://youtu.be/vojdlp5seQA

Nbc Finale GIF by America's Got Talent
 

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Great example. Gurley had that gear to run with the fastest.

I don’t recall many super long runs like that from SJ… but my goodness was it a blast to watch this:



View: https://youtu.be/vojdlp5seQA

Nbc Finale GIF by America's Got Talent's Got Talent

yea great video. Jackson did break more tackles then I remember. He definitely ruled with the second effort and gave it 100 percent.

I loved the Bengals clip and the Niners clip. I remember when he got that 1st down vs the Niners and I was so pumped up.

Maybe behind the Rams 2018-2019 Oline he could have put up Gurley numbers. Hard to tell.

He definitely knew how to fire the fans and team up and was a hard runner.
 

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The best and most complete back we ever had, IMO, was Marshall Faulk. We never would have won the one Super Bowl without him, and it’s argued that a major reason we lost Super bowl 36 was because Martz went away from using him in the 2nd half of that game. He was an insanely gifted running back and and wicked smart. He also wasn’t just an RB who could catch the ball, he was a genuine receiving threat in GSOT. He was probably a better WR than many teams had starting in the NFL. SJAX was a team guy and how could you not respect the hell out of that? Gurley was incredible. Yet, we have never had as complete a weapon and as effective a weapon as Marshall, which includes ED.
 

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When you look back at it, the Rams have had some truly great running backs over the years. Dickerson, looked like a wild stallion with his upright running style and speed; Jackson, with his rare combination of speed and power; Gurley, was a combination of speed and fluidity; and my boy Faulk, who was just a freak. We as Ram fans have been blessed to have watch some of the greatest RBs of all time play for our team. They are all worthy of a place in the NFL Hall of Fame.
 

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I remember SJ having plenty of speed!

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He had good speed for his size but I do remember him getting caught from behind quite a bit in the open field. He had short legs for his size (long torso) he had a short stride. But he earned every yard he gained, one of the toughest, hard nosed runners I remember.
 

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I loved watching SJ play. He was the only good thing about our team for years. Such a nice dude as well.
 

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The best and most complete back we ever had, IMO, was Marshall Faulk. We never would have won the one Super Bowl without him, and it’s argued that a major reason we lost Super bowl 36 was because Martz went away from using him in the 2nd half of that game. He was an insanely gifted running back and and wicked smart. He also wasn’t just an RB who could catch the ball, he was a genuine receiving threat in GSOT. He was probably a better WR than many teams had starting in the NFL. SJAX was a team guy and how could you not respect the hell out of that? Gurley was incredible. Yet, we have never had as complete a weapon and as effective a weapon as Marshall, which includes ED.
Facts. Marshall is the greatest back I have ever seen play the game.
 

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Jackson and Gurley were 2 completely different backs so there really isnt a fair way to compare them.

SJ39 made his own running lanes and broke tons of tackles.

Gurley had great open field speed and was shifty.

Put TG on the teams SJ had and he would be so so

Put SJ on the teams TG had and SB WINNERS
 

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When you look back at it, the Rams have had some truly great running backs over the years. Dickerson, looked like a wild stallion with his upright running style and speed; Jackson, with his rare combination of speed and power; Gurley, was a combination of speed and fluidity; and my boy Faulk, who was just a freak. We as Ram fans have been blessed to have watch some of the greatest RBs of all time play for our team. They are all worthy of a place in the NFL Hall of Fame.
Certain teams seems to excel at certain positions across time.
Steelers, OLB for example.
Rams have traditionally always been good at RB and OL.
 

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This may sound like an overstatement, but it’s not.

Jackson may be one of the most underrated NFL players of all time. Dude was a beast year after year on some really bad teams.
 

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I'm gonna poor one out for my man Steven Jackson. My man sacrificed a HOF induction to play on our team. Dude was a beast, and the only reason to be a rams fan for most of his tenure. We never went 0-16 and that was because SJax said "nope" and ran through 11 other men all on his own. All my love for that man. Gurley didn't earn the same level of respect. His tenure with us was too short, and the team around him was significantly better.
 

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Gurley didn't earn the same level of respect. His tenure with us was too short, and the team around him was significantly better.
I think that he did earn respect with the Rams and around the league.

I can live with him not earning or losing fan respect...it is what it is.

Gurley MADE this team significantly better with his 58 touchdowns and his Offensive Player of the Year efforts. I believe that he was Offensive Rookie of the Year, too, on a bad team that had hope when 30 was on the field.

The tenure was too short, with that I agree.



I do like Jackson, in case anyone wonders.
 
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I always felt like SJ got too built in his upper body and it affected his contact balance. Watch his college tape and early NFL career and the guy was very hard to bring down. Later in his career he was so top heavy that the low hits had a much higher chance of bringing him down. The guy could still truck DBs of course but he was downright nasty when he was lean.

I remember seeing a photo of him with some defensive dudes towards the end of his career and at first I was like "Jesus who's that DE" before I realized it was him. The guy was one hell of an athlete. Probably would have been a Hall of Fame edge rusher tbh.
 

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I think that he did earn respect with the Rams and around the league.

I can live with him not earning or losing fan respect...it is what it is.

Gurley MADE this team significantly better with his 58 touchdowns and his Offensive Player of the Year efforts. I believe that he was Offensive Rookie of the Year, too, on a bad team that had hope when 30 was on the field.

The tenure was too short, with that I agree.
I liked Gurley, but Bradford also won the OROY, which diminishes the award for me a bit. He certainly earned his Offensive Player of the Year, but he was surrounded with competent talent, at the very least. SJAX was surrounded with shyte and ran hard no matter what.
 

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Outside of Aaron Donald, Steven Jackson is my 1a/1b favorite Ram of all time.
too bad his talent never won him a SB ring with the Rams... Can you imagine him at his prime with current team :explode1:
 

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Gurley was an elite RB. He was a better goaline back and had world class speed both of which Jackson didn’t possess. Gurley has been clocked sub 4.3 whereas Jackson was more of a 4.5 guy.

Gurleys TD numbers are far superior for this reason. In 6 years he had 10 TD or more on the ground 4 times. Jackson did this once in 11 years.

Gurleys 21 and 19 total TD years trump Jackson best of 16. This is why Gurley was the offensive player of the year and considered a top 10 player in the NFL. Jackson never received such accolades.

Jacksons main issue was his skinny legs. He could get tripped up rather easily and couldn’t churn out the tough yards at the goaline.

But Jackson was a better locker room guy and teammate. He also played much longer, whereas the dead money of Gurley really strapped the team. Gurley also sucked in the NFC championship and was nearly useless in the Super Bowl.

Also Jackson played with more heart, there is no debating that.
All true!, but perhaps if SJ didn't play with a bull's eye target on his back .. unlike Gurley did since he wasn't the main attraction.. who knows what SJ td production would have been :thinking:
 

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