Stan Kroenke appreciation thread

[Dxmissile]

Here's hoping St Louis gets an XFL team. I've got nothing against St Louis, but I gotta think that the NFL would be reluctant to go back there. St Louis population has been dropping for a while now, at 294k now as compared to over 340k 30 years ago. St Louis is the 69th most populous city in the USA.

It’s not just about stl it’s the entire metro area you’re just talking about stl city. Stl metro area of 3million people. And the nfl might not have a choice with how things are playing out

 

[Dxmissile]

I'd love to see football back in STL. I'm just not expecting it. STL deserves massive compensation for how dirty a Stan and the NFL operated. Thing is I can't imagine STL jumping back in bed with the NFL after what happened with two dirty owners, Bidwell and Stan. If the team could be publically owned like the Packers then that would change my mind.

That’s why I see a completely financed stadium and cash to the city. That way the politicians can save face acting like they did it in the best interest of the city and Kroenke can save billions and keep the respect of the other owners in the nfl.

 

[SuperMan28]

That’s why I see a completely financed stadium and cash to the city. That way the politicians can save face acting like they did it in the best interest of the city and Kroenke can save billions and keep the respect of the other owners in the nfl.

The Riverfront stadium had a price tag at 1.5 billion if I remember right. I'm not seeing it. Any public funds would be met with fierce disapproval. No, the NFL burned it's bridge in my opinion. I don't think they care either. They just hate money getting taken out of their pockets. They think giving STL an expansion team would soften the blow. I don't think STL is that naieve to keep trusting the wolf in sheep's clothing. That's what the NFL is to STL. No trust at all.

 

[Classic Rams]

Send the Cardinals back to St Louis and move the Chargers to Arizona.

While we're sending teams, I'm for sending the Faders back to Oakland.

 

[Ramer]

Meh. Mixed feelings I guess. I'll say I respect him as a business man as far as someone who knows what he wants and is smart enough to put people in charge who can get it for him. I do have a sneaking suspicion that end of the day, though, a man like Kroenke is all about what you can do for him and not the other way around. That's what it takes to make it to the top, after all.

Agreed.... but everyone needs a hoppy, so who knows? maybe the Rams are it and whatever profits is just gravy? His meat and financial potatoes are in real estate development.

 

[RamFan503]

That’s why I see a completely financed stadium and cash to the city. That way the politicians can save face acting like they did it in the best interest of the city and Kroenke can save billions and keep the respect of the other owners in the nfl.

I'll be shocked of you're right. I just can't see that scenario playing out at all. For the Lou I hope you're right. I just can't see it happening.

 

[XXXIVwin]

I’m sure whatever settlement they come up with will include the nfl financing a new stadium for the city and still a couple hundred million if not a billion in cash. That’s a win win for kroenke the nfl and the city. And I for one can’t wait to have football back in StL. The rams will always be my first team though but the riverfront stadium was nice.

In these high stakes poker games, somebody wins and somebody loses. Can't have everyone as a winner. In your scenario, if the NFL has to shell out 1 or 2 billion for damages and a new stadium, that's not a "win" for the NFL.

NFL's first choice is to have the taxpayers foot the bill for at least a portion of a new stadium. If that's not possible, then the next option is to have a rich owner like Kroenke to pay for it. But losing in court, then having the NFL owners collectively pay for a new stadium in St Louis? The owners would fight like hell to prevent that scenario from ever occurring. That would be a devastating loss for the league.

 

[Faceplant]

I'll be shocked of you're right. I just can't see that scenario playing out at all. For the Lou I hope you're right. I just can't see it happening.

Me either. I always thought it was odd that Missouri.... MISSOURI!!?? had two NFL franchises. Just seems crazy to me. I did like the riverfront stadium idea though. That looked great.

I really hope Spanos gets his miserable ass kicked somehow in all of this. That fucker is the turd in the punch bowl.....

 

[RhodyRams]

One would think that in order to grant an expansion team to STL, another expansion team would have to be given out to even thing out


hello London?

 

[Florida_Ram]

Kroenke is being splattered and smashed this week.

Many of the other 31 NFL owners are acting like they never knew this would become a financial issue even though they voted for Stan and his Rams to be allowed to move from St. Louis to Los Angeles.

This is silly to me. Most if not all of the owners knew this could get ugly. I stand behind Kroenke and his lawyers. Give St. Louis their cry baby chunk of cash and move on... This is not surprising to me at all. This is grandstanding and the other NFL owners are just playing along. This was clever by the NFL to leak that they won't help Stan pay the bills.

They will help Stan pay the bills and this all politics to end the law suit sooner than later.

ST. LOUIS (KMOX) - Los Angeles Rams owner Stan Kroenke is reportedly causing some division among NFL owners as he may not be holding up his end of the bargain over the St. Louis relocation lawsuit.

The estimated $10 billion man signed an indemnification agreement with the NFL and all its owners when he convinced them of relocating the Rams to Los Angeles. The deal meant that he would pay for essentially all legal fees, settlement or punitive damages if anyone was sued over the move. The St. Louis region filed an estimated $1 billion lawsuit in 2017.


But now, Kroenke is challenging that agreement, as the bills are reportedly over $10 million each for some teams.

ESPN reported that in an owner's meeting this week – the first in-person meeting since 2019 due to the pandemic – owners were informed of Kroenke attempting to back out of his promise. It "angered" and "stunned" many in the room.

Dallas Cowboys owner Jerry Jones stood up for Kroenke, saying he had "done a lot for the league," according to the report. But other owners, like Robert Kraft of the New England Patriots and John Mara of the New York Giants say they've already dealt with too many legal issues over the lawsuit and that they wouldn't have approved the relocation without the indemnification agreement.

The report also says that Jones indicated Kroenke may sue the NFL over the deal – which is similar to what Jones did in 1995 over a sponsorship deal.

The St. Louis lawsuit is set to go to trial on January 10 in a St. Louis courtroom.

The suit filed by St. Louis, St. Louis County and the St. Louis Regional Convention and Sports Complex Authority claims the NFL violated its own relocation rules by allowing the Rams to leave St. Louis.

MSN

 

[LARAMSinFeb.]

It's such a farce singular capricious owners have more control over teams than the fans who love them. Systemic failure.

 

[ottoman89]

One would think that in order to grant an expansion team to STL, another expansion team would have to be given out to even thing out


hello London?

I can't see the NFL ever having a team in London. It'd be extremely hard on players I'd think with the jet lag and such.

 

[So Ram]

It's such a farce singular capricious owners have more control over teams than the fans who love them. Systemic failure.

The vote counted.I think they need to do a recall.Kraft & Mara hands were only half way up.There we’re even a couple with there fingers crossed.One owner might have even had one of his toes crossed.
—Truth is Stan knew way before he said he did about the location.When he flew over I’m sure he was surprised at how larger a piece of property it was compared to Chavez Ravine.
—The Fact he put a group together to buy the Dodgers says enough to me.

*Fans ? To me it was a dream come true SOFI was built. That’s priceless to The City of LA.
St.Louis ? Imo they waited to long & needed to address the ED DOME a year(season) earlier.There should have been a plan in place at the very least.
—River Front Stadium would have been kick Azz & a landmark.I’d guarantee most of Rod members would’ve found a way there to watch The Rams & Tailgate.Just thinking about the Tailgate alone would have been the better game day experience than SOFI before game.

 

[Mojo Ram]

I can't see the NFL ever having a team in London. It'd be extremely hard on players I'd think with the jet lag and such.

Yeah its the elephant in the room for the NFL. They want it so badly and continue to promote it despite knowing it simply won't work until someone builds a transporter room like in Star Trek.

Meanwhile, Mexico City sits there. So does Canada. All viable in terms of logistics but not the REALLY big money that Europe would entail and what the NFL big business machine is looking for. They don't care about expanding the game for the fans.

 

[Dxmissile]

In these high stakes poker games, somebody wins and somebody loses. Can't have everyone as a winner. In your scenario, if the NFL has to shell out 1 or 2 billion for damages and a new stadium, that's not a "win" for the NFL.

NFL's first choice is to have the taxpayers foot the bill for at least a portion of a new stadium. If that's not possible, then the next option is to have a rich owner like Kroenke to pay for it. But losing in court, then having the NFL owners collectively pay for a new stadium in St Louis? The owners would fight like hell to prevent that scenario from ever occurring. That would be a devastating loss for the league.

Well a win is relative right the nfl and Kroenke are looking at massive blow black not just from the city but between its Owners. So a win for the nfl would be settling this case without having to go through the owners financial records and then having those records exposed for the Players Union on top of that it’ll stop Kroenke for trying to get out of his deal with covering all the legal fees.

That’s the biggest news out of all of this. The owners turning on each other is something the nfl can’t allow. And the stadium was 1.2 billion the league promised stl almost 700 million anyway so then paying for the stadium and Kroenke forking over some cash is definitely a win win for everyone involved.

 

[Dxmissile]

I'll be shocked of you're right. I just can't see that scenario playing out at all. For the Lou I hope you're right. I just can't see it happening.

Idk things are getting uglier and uglier for Kroenke and some of the owners the best case scenario is to settle this all out because if this goes to trial and all their financials get calculated the punitive damages are gonna be massive

 

[Merlin]

Owners turning on each other is nothing new. Look at Al Davis. It's a business and to these guys legal proceedings are a part of it. They will settle with STL (they might appeal and all that of course but settlement is the eventual answer) and what this will do is spur the owners to do a better job having the league coordinate moves of teams in the future with that legal side of things in mind.

 

[Merlin]

Also and btw... Who do you guys think leaked all that information about a closed door ownership meeting to ESPN? Why do I think it's Spanos.

 

[Dxmissile]

Also and btw... Who do you guys think leaked all that information about a closed door ownership meeting to ESPN? Why do I think it's Spanos.

Lol they sure made it seem like it was him lol

 

[ljramsfan]

I must be one of the few St. Louisans who would stick with the Rams if another team moved to the Lou. I don't care for any other team; the Rams are who I grew up watching for almost two decades, and I can't just discard that for another team - especially not when I researched LA players like Deacon, Merlin, Youngblood, Crazy Legs, etc.

I share the same exact thoughts. I'm from St Louis and the Rams are my squad. The Cardinals left when I didn't watch football (I was 5,).