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It appears to me that it's Van Jefferson who has the speed & talent to take the snaps that would go to DeSean Jackson. TuTu Atwell is a distant afterthought @ this time. That draft selection is just wasting space on the bench IMO.

I would put Atwell as inactive & Activate up DB JR Reed so he can put some hurting on those :injury::woozy:RB's running through our DL! Make better use out of the MR53.
Agreed, he didn’t even play ST. Kupp fielded one punt, not thrilled with that but he did fair catch it.
 

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Where the hell is our punt returner?
Not even slightly sold that Atwell can do it .
Between now and the playoffs we have to find a threat at the position
And yes I am still pissed off at letting Pharoh Cooper go. Hell all the man did was stay at the
top of the league in kickoff and punt returns.
A Super Bowl contender needs a returner who can flip the field.
 

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Believe me, I am in no way a fan of the Atwell pick.

However I do understand, as did the Rams front office, that we needed to add speed to our wide receiver corps.

We'll see how it all plays out with Desean's health and durability and if he fades during the season.
With a OL unit stuffed full of OT's & a QB who can put the ball anywhere on the field having a bench with speed would not be a bad idea. It's obvious I did not & do not like the Rams 2021 2nd rd selection but things can change in a hurry in the NFL.

McVay had dumped all his deep pass plays since 2018 ..... now he has to be busy trying to dig for them out from his trash can.
 

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Ernest Jones with zero snaps on D... so much for the preseason hype that he might be a starter.

Burgess with zero snaps on D. Nick Scott ahead of him now?

Kenny Young is da man. Ravens think they fleeced rams for trading Kenny Young and 5th rd pick in exchange for Marcus Peters. That trade evening out now? (Glad to be rid of Peters regardless... what a distraction)

Harris with zero snaps on O... still think his chancers will be few and far between this year.... we'll see.

Man, sure hope Michel gets up to speed sooner than later.

Jefferson looked smooth, polished, professional. Would be a good thing for us if he has legit beaten out DJax for the majority of snaps.
 

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Ernest Jones with zero snaps on D... so much for the preseason hype that he might be a starter.

Burgess with zero snaps on D. Nick Scott ahead of him now?

Kenny Young is da man. Ravens think they fleeced rams for trading Kenny Young and 5th rd pick in exchange for Marcus Peters. That trade evening out now? (Glad to be rid of Peters regardless... what a distraction)

Harris with zero snaps on O... still think his chancers will be few and far between this year.... we'll see.

Man, sure hope Michel gets up to speed sooner than later.

Jefferson looked smooth, polished, professional. Would be a good thing for us if he has legit beaten out DJax for the majority of snaps.
Not feeling pressure to play your rookies is a a good thing.

Especially in the opening game of the season with a nationally televised game.

It sure is good to know we have talented rookies in the wings though.
 

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Not feeling pressure to play your rookies is a a good thing.

Especially in the opening game of the season with a nationally televised game.

It sure is good to know we have talented rookies in the wings though.

It might be very smart; where you have a solid #2 that is experienced… play that guy week 1. Especially a nationally televised game.

All rookies survived their first game without major mistakes. A big mental win in transition to the NFL.
 

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It might be very smart; where you have a solid #2 that is experienced… play that guy week 1. Especially a nationally televised game.

All rookies survived their first game without major mistakes. A big mental win in transition to the NFL.
I'm thinking only Robert Rochelle came in for David Long Jr. But Rochelle sure looks smooth himself for a supposed project.
 

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Notes:
- Mundt TE2
- Quiet night for rookies
- Jefferson WR3
- Scott in over Burgess
- Robinson not fully healthy?
- Young "the guy" at ILB
- 3CBs 95% of the time
Young was pretty active in the game and made some plays.
It will be interesting to see how these numbers change based on opponent.
Robinson may be a little nicked still or not in game shape.
 

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The number of snaps Rochelle got and his performance makes me very, very happy.

I think David Long is actually a decent CB... but it looks like Rochelle could be an exceptional CB. Those long arms and that ridiculous speed and athleticism.
 

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It appears to me that it's Van Jefferson who has the speed & talent to take the snaps that would go to DeSean Jackson. TuTu Atwell is a distant afterthought @ this time. That draft selection is just wasting space on the bench IMO.

I would put Atwell as inactive & Activate up DB JR Reed so he can put some hurting on those :injury::woozy:RB's running through our DL! Make better use out of the MR53.
By now all of us at ROD should know that the Rams don't view draft picks like most teams. Not even sure they worry much about whether the use a 2nd or 6th in terms of playing time. If they want a player for the future and think he won't be there if they wait, they get him. Did Jefferson play much last season? Did he look like a wasted pick Sunday? It's time to realize that our Rams are creating a new paradime. Get used to it.
 

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(Apologies if this was already posted, I missed it)

Considering the Rams don’t play their starters in the preseason, it’s difficult to predict who will play how much in Week 1 of any given year. We had a good idea of who the starters would be and which players would be the primary backups, but in their 34-14 win over the Bears, we learned who Sean McVay wants on the field the majority of the time.

Looking at the snap counts from Sunday’s victory, the Rams didn’t use a very deep rotation on either side of the ball. Only 13 players played more than four snaps on offense, while 17 players on defense were out there for at least 10 snaps.


Here’s a breakdown of the Rams’ snap counts in Week 1, starting with the offense.

Offense​

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Seven players were on the field for every single snap, and six of them weren’t the least bit surprising. All five starting offensive linemen played 100% of the snaps, as did Matthew Stafford. Tyler Higbee did, too, which is the first time in his career that he played every snap on offense. Johnny Mundt played 15 snaps as the No. 2 tight end, which shows the Rams were in 11 personnel for most of the game.
Darrell Henderson Jr. is clearly the top running back as of now, playing 94% of the snaps compared to only 6% for Sony Michel. It’s likely that Michel is still getting up to speed with his new team and his role should grow as time goes on, but Henderson has a firm grasp on the RB1 spot for now.
Cooper Kupp led the way at wide receiver with 49 snaps played, or 94%. Robert Woods was on the field 77% of the time, followed by Van Jefferson (69%). Jefferson looks like the No. 3 receiver behind Woods and Kupp, slotting in ahead of DeSean Jackson as of now. Jackson played just 14 snaps in his Rams debut. Tutu Atwell was a non-factor, playing only two snaps in his first NFL game.

Defense​

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There was more subbing on defense than there was on the offensive side of the ball, but even still, it didn’t go as deep as initially expected. Taylor Rapp played every snap in his starting role, as did defensive signal caller Jordan Fuller. Terrell Burgess didn’t play a single snap on defense, however, which was surprising. Nick Scott was the third safety, playing 10 defensive snaps.
At cornerback, Jalen Ramsey and Darious Williams were on the field for every play. Williams didn’t play 100% of the defensive snaps in a single game last season, so it’s unlikely he’s going to come off the field much at all this year. David Long Jr. was the nickel corner and played 39 snaps, missing time due to cramping. Robert Rochell filled in with 27 snaps, a healthy amount for the rookie corner.
Kenny Young played every snap, which is 24% more than he played in a single other game in his NFL career. The Rams were in nickel and dime packages for the majority of the game, as evidenced by Troy Reeder only getting 19 snaps (28%). Ernest Jones and Travin Howard only played on special teams.
Leonard Floyd was quiet against the Bears in his 57 snaps (83%) played, only recording three assisted tackles. Justin Hollins had two sacks and eight tackles in his 51 snaps as the No. 2 edge rusher opposite Floyd. Terrell Lewis (17 snaps) and Justin Lawler (6 snaps) were the only other outside linebackers to get on the field, as Chris Garrett remained on the sideline despite being active.
Aaron Donald led the way with 66 snaps (96%) on the defensive line, followed by Sebastian Joseph-Day (52 snaps) and A’Shawn Robinson (23 snaps). They were the three starters, but Robinson and Joseph-Day were subbed out for Greg Gaines (25 snaps), Jonah Williams (13 snaps) and Michael Hoecht (9 snaps) during the game. Perhaps Robinson is still getting back to full health after his minor knee procedure, limiting his snaps on Sunday.
 

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Was fascinated that Hollins got as many snaps as he did and Scott got more snaps than Burgess (who got none!).

I wonder if Burgess is behind the curve on D right now. Plus, it seems like we're more invested in keeping Young on the field than subbing out of safety type ala last year.
 

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No snaps for Burgess, JHarris and EJones surprised me. Getting snaps for Hoecht was a bit of a surprise for me as well. But other than that, pretty much what I expected.
 

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I wouldn't expect to see the rookies much at all this year, and that's a very good thing. Most of them are potential replacements because this team likes to think ahead. So we might not see much of Ernest Jones or Bobby Brown this year. Might only see Rochell when someone else is out too.
Gotta disagree here RR. The current lineup and snap counts are going to change as we go forward as they have every year. McVay runs a meritocracy so the guys who aren't producing or even who aren't ideal fits will give way to other dudes they like getting looks to see if they can improve in those areas. And some of those pools of options include rooks who should get looks.

First up would be TE. At TE those 15 snaps Mundt got are better served giving some of them (for starters) to Harris for specialty type plays where he knows he's running say a post or a go route for a given schemed shot. Vs quarters looks which we are likely to get from the Colts for example it would be go route combos to overrun the safeties behind play action. Harris' advantage is that he's a good teamer so he's already up for ST on gameday. He is there and dressed on the sideline so I expect as he starts getting opportunities he will take advantage and from there we'll see him getting mixed in more and more as we go forward. IMO Harris will be an outlier wrt the TE position.

Everyone's all over Young's nuts right now but as it pertains to moving forward he's a run and chase backer. That's not what you want at your Mike spot. Now I realize we don't have a Mike in our base scheme but come third down we basically do (remaining ILB's responsibilities become similar), and that is where installing Jones may help us. He'll help us early in downs vs the run because he can actually diagnose runs and track RBs behind the traffic. And he'll probably help us on third down based on how many pass breakups and INTs he showed. Why isn't he starting now? Just like with Harris it's about knowing the scheme cold so there's no thinking. But to say he won't play this year? I'll take that bet.

Hoecht I have to say may have something to him. He didn't finish plays the other night but homey was in the backfield a bit. The guy plays with a nice combo of speed and power. So I could see him factoring in more and more as we go forward. Fact is that there's a bit of a void with Brock's departure and someone is gonna have to fill it. Judging off game one I wouldn't say Robinson has it locked down by any means. And yeah I get that he's injured or whatever. But if any of these guys on the depth chart show enough they're gonna get looks and from there it's production. Brown hasn't really flashed but he was hurt too, so who knows. But IMO that DL is not sorted yet stay tuned.

Lastly Rochell is gonna factor in. Like the above I think his head is probably spinning a bit. We can't afford to have a guy blowing a coverage when we play a pass-first type scheme/approach. But every time he gets on the field good shit happens. He's probably gonna be better than Long at some point this season and may have some real upside.

For the rest I pretty much agree they're all depth.
 

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Gotta disagree here RR. The current lineup and snap counts are going to change as we go forward as they have every year. McVay runs a meritocracy so the guys who aren't producing or even who aren't ideal fits will give way to other dudes they like getting looks to see if they can improve in those areas. And some of those pools of options include rooks who should get looks.

First up would be TE. At TE those 15 snaps Mundt got are better served giving some of them (for starters) to Harris for specialty type plays where he knows he's running say a post or a go route for a given schemed shot. Vs quarters looks which we are likely to get from the Colts for example it would be go route combos to overrun the safeties behind play action. Harris' advantage is that he's a good teamer so he's already up for ST on gameday. He is there and dressed on the sideline so I expect as he starts getting opportunities he will take advantage and from there we'll see him getting mixed in more and more as we go forward. IMO Harris will be an outlier wrt the TE position.

Everyone's all over Young's nuts right now but as it pertains to moving forward he's a run and chase backer. That's not what you want at your Mike spot. Now I realize we don't have a Mike in our base scheme but come third down we basically do (remaining ILB's responsibilities become similar), and that is where installing Jones may help us. He'll help us early in downs vs the run because he can actually diagnose runs and track RBs behind the traffic. And he'll probably help us on third down based on how many pass breakups and INTs he showed. Why isn't he starting now? Just like with Harris it's about knowing the scheme cold so there's no thinking. But to say he won't play this year? I'll take that bet.

Hoecht I have to say may have something to him. He didn't finish plays the other night but homey was in the backfield a bit. The guy plays with a nice combo of speed and power. So I could see him factoring in more and more as we go forward. Fact is that there's a bit of a void with Brock's departure and someone is gonna have to fill it. Judging off game one I wouldn't say Robinson has it locked down by any means. And yeah I get that he's injured or whatever. But if any of these guys on the depth chart show enough they're gonna get looks and from there it's production. Brown hasn't really flashed but he was hurt too, so who knows. But IMO that DL is not sorted yet stay tuned.

Lastly Rochell is gonna factor in. Like the above I think his head is probably spinning a bit. We can't afford to have a guy blowing a coverage when we play a pass-first type scheme/approach. But every time he gets on the field good shit happens. He's probably gonna be better than Long at some point this season and may have some real upside.

For the rest I pretty much agree they're all depth.
Oh no, I agree with everything you said. I'm simply pointing out that I don't expect to see much from the rookies this year. I think that they're going to play here and there but I'm expecting the person above them to play well and keep them at arms length. So from the players you named:

Johnny Mundt does a good job blocking so I can't see him losing those reps to Jacob Harris as Harris is a bit undersized and higbee is already a great receiving tight end. I'm sure Harris will get reps but I'm sure Mundt will be there too

Kenny Young played really well on Sunday. I don't see a reason to take him off the field if he keeps playing like he did on Sunday. Now maybe we'll employ more than just one linebacker and a lot of our coverages but I was like young and apparently he had a fantastic camp.

Rochell is going to have to get past David Long who also had a fantastic camp and played well on Sunday. We know Darius Williams and Jalen Ramsey will be out there. So it's going to be hard to get four corners on the field. He came in on Sunday because David Long cramped up. And I expect long to keep playing well.

Bobby Brown is possibly competing on what is our deepest position on the entire team. The Rams defensive line is very stout and if stopping the run is your skill set then you're competing with a lot of people. Robinson, Gaines, and so many other guys who are known for doing the exact same thing.


I think the rookies are going to get some moments but I'm totally okay with them mostly redshirting for their first year. Because that means that certain players on our team are still playing well. are still playing well.
 

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Ernest Jones with zero snaps on D... so much for the preseason hype that he might be a starter.

Burgess with zero snaps on D. Nick Scott ahead of him now?

Kenny Young is da man. Ravens think they fleeced rams for trading Kenny Young and 5th rd pick in exchange for Marcus Peters. That trade evening out now? (Glad to be rid of Peters regardless... what a distraction)

Harris with zero snaps on O... still think his chancers will be few and far between this year.... we'll see.

Man, sure hope Michel gets up to speed sooner than later.

Jefferson looked smooth, polished, professional. Would be a good thing for us if he has legit beaten out DJax for the majority of snaps.
It appears that Coach Shula has had a great effect on Kenny Jones this off-season. Young is playing light out!

When you have a ILB'er Kenny Young playing out of his mind in the Bears game in front of rookie Jones...I would suggest that Jones sit back & digest everything that he is seeing at this moment of time. When Jones can play with the results that Young did against the Bears then maybe he might see the field when Young needs a rest.

Until then I would hope that Young remains healthy & rookie Jones learns the trade first!
 

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It appears that Coach Shula has had a great effect on Kenny Jones this off-season. Young is playing light out!

When you have a ILB'er Kenny Young playing out of his mind in the Bears game in front of rookie Jones...I would suggest that Jones sit back & digest everything that he is seeing at this moment of time. When Jones can play with the results that Young did against the Bears then maybe he might see the field when Young needs a rest.

Until then I would hope that Young remains healthy & rookie Jones learns the trade first!
Is Jones behind Young or Reeder?
 

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I would think Jones is behind Reeder since Jones is more of a run play linebacker which I think Reeder is more of.

Young is the run/pass linebacker.
 

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Is Jones behind Young or Reeder?
Good question.......very might be he is considered to be versatile enough to be the game day back up to both inside LB'er positions.

IMO Jones is far too small to be an effective MLB'er filling in behind an over 245 pound Reeder but he sure is not as good as Kenny Young or Travin Howard @ this period of time at playing the Move post either.

Young has been playing both of the inside LB'er posts. Last Sunday when Rapp took up an ILB'er post when Ramsey would move into the SS post, Young moves into the MLB'er post.

Rookie Jones would be attacked all day going up against a team like the 9ers where he will be smushed early on most rundowns. He's just way too small & light to perform that assignment all game long.

There is a good reason DC Morris has him on the bench.