Vince Lombardi was the best ever. The End.
George Allen, Chuck Knox and John Robinson all deserve mention for best Rams’ Head Coaches.
Consider where the Rams were before each of those three men were hired; and what they accomplished in their first season ... all comparable to what McVay did in Year 1.
Not meant as a criticism of McVay’s accomplishments.
Meant ... little bit ... as a criticism of those who ignore, or fail to know and respect the past.
F’ The Seahags . AFC guy ground Knox.
2nd time as a Rams HC he helped sink the ship.
Exactly- F” The Hags & the division they came from. Donny Air was a better coach. He innovative a thing called the pass. A little different from the other team in the division well South of them with Bill Walsh & a thing called the West Coast Offense.Hey! You be nice!
Seattle wasn’t in the Rams’ division when Chuck Knox coached the Seahawks. Heck they were not even in the NFC at that time.
Exactly ...
Actually, my point was the exact- opposite of ‘exactly’ but it’s all good.
You seem to be having a little bit of a stream-of-consciousness working here this morning.
Well, Fisher did bring us Aaron Donald, so he's got that going for him....
Fisher did a decent job fixing the mess that was left from the Linehan/Spags "dynasty". But yeah, the team would have been a winner if he would have trusted the offense to a modern aged mind. Seemed to me that he really thought he knew how to run an offense. However, he was dead wrong on the offense side of things and allowed the team to consistently play undisciplined football. Too many stupid penalties on both sides of the ball. He definitely gets a bad rap, I know I am guilty of it.
His "horrible coach" classification is in the category of "what could have been", as opposed to other losers that were in the "couldnt win a game if the other team didnt show up"
Kind of a cool story there too with Eddie George the head coach
I can see the DV argument, however for me personally, he had two bad seasons and then the best season in Rams history. If McVay had one losing season in four, I'd put DV above him.
For Martz - their first four years are identical - after that Martz never had another winning season, only had three total.
But look at what Martz inherited versus what McVay inherited.
And let's ask ourselves this:
What if Vermeil stayed and Martz got hired away to be a HC somewhere else?
Naw I still don’t think he’s better than Fisher. He’s a better coordinator but I don’t think McVay could have did what Fisher had to do.
Right now I have Vermeil, Fisher, Martz then McVay I think a Super Bowl would push him up there with Vermeil
I will say this about Fisher. Outside of 2010, when Bradford was winning OROY, the Rams were virtually unwatchable from 2007-2011. They were competitive under Fisher. They never got to .500 but they were more fun to watch. Of course McVay's performance made Fisher's look like an illusion.
Vermeil won a Superbowl. Whether the opinion is "without Martz, it doesn't happen" or not, he won the SB. That has to elevate him above everybody else. It works for Warner when "greatest Rams QB" discussions happen. Despite accumulating only 3 great years for the Rams, he's always considered "a great" because he won the SB. Better than Everett. Better than Goff. Better than Gabriel....according to popular opinion. Well, for my money, if it works for a QB, it should work for a HC.
Win a SB then submit an application for best Rams coach ever. Win 5 SBs (Without cheating) then submit application for best NFL coach ever.