Schaden-freakin-freude - MEDIA FALLOUT THREAD OF ALL MEDIA FALL OUT THREADS. Super Bowl 56 edition

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Allen2McVay

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By-the-Way, Rob Parker doubled-down on being a moron by saying this yesterday:

He did win, I didn’t think he would win, I thought he would not get it done at the end of the game, and he wound up doing it.

Was it anything different from what I expected from Matthew Stafford? No.

Did he change my opinion of him? No.

Did he prove me wrong that he could get it done? Yes. But I haven’t changed my opinion. I looked at that game and how he played, and while he won – he’s a champion and has a Super Bowl – I think people have gone off the deep end with this over-crazed narrative about him and his accomplishments.

I looked at that game and thought to myself ‘there are 10-12 quarterbacks who could have won a Super Bowl with the Rams, including Ryan Tannehill.’ I just thought he played ‘well enough’,

I hated to see the flags at the end and thought that was unfortunate that we had to see that after they had basically let them play for more than three quarters. Then the phantom holding in the end zone was a crucial call against the Bengals that hurt.

Any top 15 quarterback could have won that Super Bowl.”
 

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There's a lot of expert analysts that were wrong but only a few are willing to admit it.
I love the experts saying that our window is closing or this method of trading picks won't work long term. It just worked in year 5. It almost worked in year 2. Hell, year 4 without injuries to Goff and Donald, it would have almost worked then too. It's already long term at this point and it worked. The next piece of long term is figuring out what to do when Donald leaves, but that's a couple years away at least. The traditional method has technically worked every year up until this one, but that's only because there was only 1 team doing what we do.

And if you really really think about it, this method compounds and builds just like the traditional drafting method. We needed a couple of years of acquiring and locking up high level talent to really make it work. Now we just keep it going, just like the theory is with high draft picks.

It's already proven to work and it's not a short term strategy.
 

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Next December when the Rams are cruising to a top seed those same experts are gonna get nervous as F.
 

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Next December when the Rams are cruising to a top seed those same experts are gonna get nervous as F.
No they won't ... because these assholes refuse to acknowledge when they are wrong.

This dip-shit Rob Parker (noted above) has doubled-down on his stupidity the past couple days.
 

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From 2013
Rob Parker, the commentator who created controversy when he questioned whether Redskins quarterback Robert Griffin III is a “cornball brother” because he has a white fiancee, has been fired by ESPN.

“Rob Parker’s contract expired at year end. Evaluating our needs and his work, including his recent RGIII comments, we decided not to renew,” an ESPN spokesman said in a written statement.

From 2008
During every postgame press conference no journalist has badgered Lions coach Rod Marinelli more than the Detroit News' Rob Parker. Parker has asked downright ridiculous questions at times in hopes of getting Marinelli to say something controversial, and Marinelli has never taken the bait.

Parker has always been an awful journalist. He is a lazy writer that only has the goal of drumming up controversy. That is obvious during his segment on WDIV's Sports Final Edition, where he spews unfounded rumors that are untrue 99% of the time.

The most recent example was perhaps the worst unfounded rumor of all. He said that Michigan State backup quarterback Kirk Cousins was involved in a fight between football and hockey players that will result in charges being filed. MSU head coach Mark Dantonio came to Cousins' defense and called Parker out. Parker ended up getting suspended from his column and apologized to the Cousins family, as he was caught making up things that didn't happen.
 

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By-the-Way, Rob Parker doubled-down on being a moron by saying this yesterday:

He did win, I didn’t think he would win, I thought he would not get it done at the end of the game, and he wound up doing it.

Was it anything different from what I expected from Matthew Stafford? No.

Did he change my opinion of him? No.

Did he prove me wrong that he could get it done? Yes. But I haven’t changed my opinion. I looked at that game and how he played, and while he won – he’s a champion and has a Super Bowl – I think people have gone off the deep end with this over-crazed narrative about him and his accomplishments.

I looked at that game and thought to myself ‘there are 10-12 quarterbacks who could have won a Super Bowl with the Rams, including Ryan Tannehill.’ I just thought he played ‘well enough’,

I hated to see the flags at the end and thought that was unfortunate that we had to see that after they had basically let them play for more than three quarters. Then the phantom holding in the end zone was a crucial call against the Bengals that hurt.

Any top 15 quarterback could have won that Super Bowl.”
His insinuation is that the refs had a hand in the outcome of Stafford’s success, which isn’t really fair. If the Bengals won the conversation would be the same, the lack of a call gave them the win.
He seems to be on the Skip Bayless career track, which is to say crazy shit like he actually believes it. I get the doubts in Stafford, but all those questions should’ve been answered. It was far from perfect until he needed to be. Considering the circumstances it was a heroic performance. But whatever, all these discussions, mvp, hall of fame, I couldn’t care less.
 

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Maybe that's why they are now talking heads that like to hear themselves and pat themselves on the back rather than still be in the league. Rams Front Office (Snead, Pastoors, McVay) outside of the box thinking got the DUB. F those guys. Everyone's a critic!

Another example … There was a discussion late yesterday about the Rams and Bengals prospects in the coming seasons. Window-for-success kind of thing.

Marc Ross gave the Rams a back-handed compliment but had to throw in that he thought their Window was ‘this past season’. That implied it was good the Rams won the Super Bowl because their Window-for-success was now closed.

It was just a stupid take from someone that refuses to adjust his analysis and thought process.

Barring injuries, or either McVay or Donald moving-on, the Rams figure to be very good and in contention next season.
The only thing better than a high draft pick is an already proven legit top tier player

I love high draft picks, the kids are the future pro bowlers of the NFL
The problem is there are no guarantees, Give me the proven stud all day
 

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The only thing better than a high draft pick is an already proven legit top tier player

I love high draft picks, the kids are the future pro bowlers of the NFL
The problem is there are no guarantees, Give me the proven stud all day
The rest of the NFL is just like MLB minor leagues. We watch their prospects play and promote them to the Rams via draft picks when they have proven to be good enough for The Show.

Love it.
 

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By-the-Way, Rob Parker doubled-down on being a moron by saying this yesterday:

He did win, I didn’t think he would win, I thought he would not get it done at the end of the game, and he wound up doing it.

Was it anything different from what I expected from Matthew Stafford? No.

Did he change my opinion of him? No.

Did he prove me wrong that he could get it done? Yes. But I haven’t changed my opinion. I looked at that game and how he played, and while he won – he’s a champion and has a Super Bowl – I think people have gone off the deep end with this over-crazed narrative about him and his accomplishments.

I looked at that game and thought to myself ‘there are 10-12 quarterbacks who could have won a Super Bowl with the Rams, including Ryan Tannehill.’ I just thought he played ‘well enough’,

I hated to see the flags at the end and thought that was unfortunate that we had to see that after they had basically let them play for more than three quarters. Then the phantom holding in the end zone was a crucial call against the Bengals that hurt.

Any top 15 quarterback could have won that Super Bowl.”
How does he have a job after that? Does he think anyone will take his opinions seriously in the future?

Pride is a funny thing. And Tannehill proved he couldn’t get it done!
 

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There's a lot of expert analysts that were wrong but only a few are willing to admit it.
The new narrative has already started that there is no way the Rams approach is sustainable.
It makes me laugh.
Rams have not had a first round pick since Goff.
Trading picks for players has been happening for 6 years, and Rams have been in the mix for 5 years in a row, and Rams are certainly a top challenger for SB in near future.
Rams will have been in SB mix for 7+ years. How is that not sustained success?
Patriots (Bellichek and Brady) has been an exception to the rule.
 

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There's a lot of expert analysts that were wrong but only a few are willing to admit it.
Yeah, I wouldn't mind hearing from Tedy Bruschi.

“He is a star but, yes, he is not a winner....There are a lot of guys out there with a lot of stats that have no playoff wins, and I think Stafford doesn’t have playoff wins for a reason.”
"But I would say this: Winning football is something that I don’t really recognize when I watch him play. I just recognize the highlight plays that he has, and that really is not going to work with this type of team(Patriots) in my opinion.”
“The price that [Los Angeles] paid for Matthew Stafford was ridiculous,” Bruschi said of the Rams’ trade. “I think it was two [first round picks] and a [third round pick] for a player that’s never won a playoff game. But this goes into the arrogance of offensive coaches. It’s like OK, no, my system, my coaching, I’ll fix this guy. Let’s bring him in here and this is exactly the upgrade that I need.”
“He’s not tough enough to play here... “He’s just not tough enough. I don’t think he’s tough enough to be coached hard. Do you realize the mental toughness that Tom Brady had to have for 20 years to deal with Bill Belichick and that type of coaching? I mean, constant pressure every single day. Does Stafford sort of grab you as a guy who could handle that? I just don’t think so.”

https://www.boston.com/sports/new-england-patriots/2021/02/04/tedy-bruschi-matthew-stafford-weei/
https://www.boston.com/sports/new-e...9/tedy-bruschi-matthew-stafford-not-a-winner/
 

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I’m sure the question was could Stafford play in NE, and of course Tedy said what he said. Tedy has every right to believe that Brady walks on water and no one else could measure up to him but there will continue to be Super Bowls and guys who aren’t Brady will win them.
So, maybe he’s right, maybe Stafford couldn’t succeed in NE but that doesn’t mean he can’t get a ring or two.
 

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So Bruschi is saying Stafford wouldn't win in NE because Belichick is too much of a d*ckweed. I'm not sure I can argue with that....