Robert Kraft charged with solicitation in sex trafficking ring

[SWAdude]

Paying for sex is for pussies, who are to weak to charm a chick into wanting to suck it. Kraft is just another wuss!

I married well.

I am assuming no one wants this aging body for free.

I don't know what I would do if I didn't marry so well.

But if you are calling a me pussy for the consideration for who knows why.....

Lets see how you feel when you are my age.

And I am fucking rich.

GO RAMS!!!

 

[ReekofRams]

They're you go discriminating against dyslexics again!

GOD, ARE WE NOW TALKING ABOUT GOING AT FROM THE BACKSIDE?! I’M KEEPING MY HEAD OUT OF THAT ONE!

 

[Karate61]

I married well.

I am assuming no one wants this aging body for free.

I don't know what I would do if I didn't marry so well.

But if you are calling a me wuss for the consideration for who knows why.....

Lets see how you feel when you are my age.

And I am freaking rich.

GO RAMS!!!

I would puke watching some young chick having to touch my wrinkled smelly body. I'd just whack it to a couple lesbos scissoring and leave it at that!

 

[Psycho_X]

Well, I kinda figured this story would grow into the direction it has where it is now going to become very political. Not sure how long this thread will last before it gets locked as the story progresses but there is a very large rabbit hole that’s about to be jumped into involving the owner of these salons. Get some popcorn.

 

[Akrasian]

Well, I kinda figured this story would grow into the direction it has where it is now going to become very political. Not sure how long this thread will last before it gets locked as the story progresses but there is a very large rabbit hole that’s about to be jumped into involving the owner of these salons. Get some popcorn.

I saw that, thought about posting that because her wealth might explain how Kraft or one of his connections heard about this particular massage parlor - but she sold it a while back, so maybe not. And then the political stuff I knew would send out the wrong message. I was just curious how Kraft discovered this spot for his "therapy".

 

[wild ram]

I don’t see anything wrong with a little rub& tug ? Just helps relax the body and mind after a massage.
Pressure & stress can build up over time.
I just think there is to much being made of Bob Kraft.
Then again people get into trouble for a less. All how you look at it.

 

[Psycho_X]

I don’t see anything wrong with a little rub& tug ? Just helps relax the body and mind after a massage.
Pressure & stress can build up over time.
I just think there is to much being made of Bob Kraft.
Then again people get into trouble for a less. All how you look at it.

A rub and tug... sure who cares, people can do what they want with their money. The fact it is apparently part of a huge sex trafficking ring is a huge issue to me. That shit needs to stop and anyone who willingly participates in it should rot in jail and hell. Now, maybe he didn't willingly no about that side of it? I think that is unlikely. But innocent until guilty.

 

[Dieter the Brock]

I don’t see anything wrong with a little rub& tug ? Just helps relax the body and mind after a massage.
Pressure & stress can build up over time.
I just think there is to much being made of Bob Kraft.
Then again people get into trouble for a less. All how you look at it.

I have no fucking idea what you are trying to say, but,

Next time before you decide to release that "pressure and stress" at your favorite massage parlor/"rub & tub" you might wanna check behind that plastic ficus for a video camera

Otherwise you might have to see how the "just helps the body relax" defense will hold up. Or better yet, you can just wait to see how Bob Kraft pleads out and you can take the Patriots approach to your case

:effemine:

 

[wild ram]

A rub and tug... sure who cares, people can do what they want with their money. The fact it is apparently part of a huge sex trafficking ring is a huge issue to me. That crap needs to stop and anyone who willingly participates in it should rot in jail and hell. Now, maybe he didn't willingly no about that side of it? I think that is unlikely. But innocent until guilty.

How the government sends little girls to NY after separation of parents from Mexico is beyond me ?? Talk about scary ?? That seems real underground when you don’t even document it ??
Fair enough, He’ll is how you persevere it.Kraft & NE are nown cheaters.They seem to be on top of the Sports world though. What is a true Patriot anyways.

I think kraft was just interning the FA market early.Maybe that tampering looking for a new TE.
Aaron Herndez is off the market.
Just going to chill & smoke my big legal blunt as the market opens.Maybe enjoy a little escort service as well,but I like a warm towel with a little tlc in the end.

 

[wild ram]

I have no freaking idea what you are trying to say, but,

Next time before you decide to release that "pressure and stress" at your favorite massage parlor/"rub & tub" you might wanna check behind that plastic ficus for a video camera

Otherwise you might have to see how the "just helps the body relax" defense will hold up. Or better yet, you can just wait to see how Bob Kraft pleads out and you can take the Patriots approach to your case

:effemine:

It will be an interesting case.HE will spend less time & money than in a divorce Case.
I guess an ice bath might have been better as well.Good for the swelling.

I’ll give the NFL players props this offseason. Not a lot of Leonard Little type talk this offseason. The owners are talking up a little more news.

 

[Raptorman]

Well, I kinda figured this story would grow into the direction it has where it is now going to become very political. Not sure how long this thread will last before it gets locked as the story progresses but there is a very large rabbit hole that’s about to be jumped into involving the owner of these salons. Get some popcorn.

Actually, it's the ex owner. But the news sources are not making that very clear. On purpose. When someone sells a business 6 years before said business is involved in a criminal activity, just exactly what does that previous owner have to do with the crime? Nothing, unless someone wants to make the stretch and connect them to some political figure for political reasons.

 

[TSFH Fan]

When someone sells a business 6 years before said business is involved in a criminal activity,

Well that's just it, isn't it? There's smoke with that part.

When the new owners keep the same decor and keep most of the same employees, it's really not a stretch to suspect that the new owners are engaged in the same/similar business as the old owners. Plus, there's smoke that the old owners were in the business of sex for sale. Also, big picture, we're not talking about an industry, as a whole, known for its virtuosity and legitimacy. Here's what I'm referencing:

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https://www.miamiherald.com/news/politics-government/article227186429.html
Excerpt:

In 2007, Yang started what would become a large chain of Tokyo Day Spas.

Cindy Yang and her family members operate the Tokyo Day Spa & Massages parlor, as well as a nail salon, at a strip mall in Palm Beach Gardens. It is part of a chain of spas the family controls.
Sarah Blaskey sblaskey@MiamiHerald.com

The first to open was her flagship, which is still in business and run by her husband, Zubin Gong, in Palm Beach Gardens.

The next was a Tokyo Day Spa in Jupiter that would later become Orchids of Asia after Yang sold it to another businesswoman, Hua Zhang, around 2013. Zhang, who was charged in February with racketeering and running a house of prostitution and has pleaded not guilty, declined to comment when contacted at her Martin County home.

Online reviews from prior to 2013 suggest sex was for sale at the Tokyo Day Spa Jupiter location even before it became Orchids of Asia. Although the name and ownership of the location have changed, the decor has not. A photo from a Tokyo Day Spa Yelp review shows the same couch, the same wall hanging and the same faux plant as now.

“Used to be known as Tokyo Day Spa and Massage — most of the same girls still work there,” a Yelp reviewer wrote of Orchids of Asia in 2013.

Over the past decade, Yang and her family members have opened at least six locations across Palm Beach and Broward counties, including a massage school established in 2011 and several nail salons. In at least three cases, online classifieds written in Chinese indicate Yang opened the spas and then flipped them, advertising sale prices ranging from $55,000 to $88,000.

Organized networks of massage parlors offering sex are common, according to Bradley Myles, CEO of Polaris Project, a nonprofit dedicated to ending human trafficking in the sex work industry. The parlors have licenses, allowing them to operate the illicit part of their businesses behind a smokescreen of legitimacy.

“Having a school associated with several locations that are engaged in illicit massage business — It’s one more way of appearing legitimate,” Myles said, commenting generally rather than specifically on Tokyo Day Spas. He said the owners of such chains often use schools to recruit and groom women to work in their parlors, even giving them the answers to the licensing exams ahead of time if they are good candidates for sex work.

Nationally, the illicit massage industry is worth over $2.5 billion, according to Polaris.

Yang also owns several residential properties around South Florida, including a tiny $240,000 condo on Miami’s waterfront. She built her success on hard work and long hours, according to an online profile of Yang that was posted on dondonsex.com. The site also features classified ads for erotic massage services. It’s unclear who posted Yang’s profile there or why.

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[Akrasian]

FWIW, when I was working with Google creating online advertising for new clients, we had certain rules about acceptable companies to work with (sales would try to get around it, the ad builders would have to enforce the rules). Massage places that showed workers on their site in bikinis, lingerie, or partially nude were unacceptable, since prostitution could not be advertised. In addition, "asian massage parlor" or similar terms were not allowed, since that is a codeword for "brothel". Undoubtedly there are a few legitimate places, but mostly they name themselves differently knowing that asian names attract male customers looking for sex, and most legitimate customers stay away. Somebody opening a chain of asian named massage parlors is almost certainly a pimp.

 

[Mackeyser]

A rub and tug... sure who cares, people can do what they want with their money. The fact it is apparently part of a huge sex trafficking ring is a huge issue to me. That crap needs to stop and anyone who willingly participates in it should rot in jail and hell. Now, maybe he didn't willingly no about that side of it? I think that is unlikely. But innocent until guilty.

Yep. The single biggest human sex trafficking event ON THE PLANET is the Super Bowl... And it extends for hundreds of miles...so much so that a Super Bowl in Tampa could extend the sex trafficking associated with the event to North Carolina and Louisiana.

I support sex work (not with money...I also married very, very well), but politically. Free people should be able to do what they want.

But anyone who supports sex trafficking with their money is on another level of bad. And it can't be hard to figure it out. There's a difference between the outlook of "I make way more money doing this than working at the Waffle House or Walmart and it's worth the risks" versus the nightmare that is forced prostitution.

Seeing as the NFL has worked with the FBI as well as other federal and state agencies to combat sex trafficking during the Super Bowl, why this isn't seen as an extension of their efforts and they don't make an example of Kraft is beyond me... well, besides the fact that he's a rich owner and the rules don't apply to them...

I mean, except for that...

 

[PressureD41]

Well said Mac!

 

[LesBaker]

Actually, it's the ex owner. But the news sources are not making that very clear. On purpose.

Actually every single article I have seen on multiple sites is clear and specific in the articles posted that she was the previous owner 6 years removed.

The single biggest human sex trafficking event ON THE PLANET is the Super Bowl.

I had heard it was the Olympics or the World Cup.

 

[Mackeyser]

Actually every single article I have seen on multiple sites is clear and specific in the articles posted that she was the previous owner 6 years removed.



I had heard it was the Olympics or the World Cup.

Depends on the country. Lots of factors. Granted, in some parts of the world, the trafficking happens in neighboring countries, but still.

The Super Bowl is an every year event and consistently it's the biggest event with respect to sex trafficking.

 

[OnceARam]

I dont think that should even be a crime, in all honesty. People have needs, and if they have money, they should be able to pay to fulfill those needs.

But since he's a Cheatriot, I say lock him up and throw away the key!

There is a difference between needs and compulsions.

 

[Zaphod]

There is a difference between needs and compulsions.

I can't think of a scenario where prohibition actually limits supply from meeting demand. Instead, it's just another form of theft that hurts the consumer as well as the supplier through a black market that affords extortion money for those who control enforcement.

What really baffles me is the argument to insist that supply only be allowed to meet demand for needs, and that's a historically observed slippery slope that always ends in tragedy.

Finally, from a different angle, what is it about sex (outside of religious decree) that makes it immoral to offer as a service for which there is so much demand? If you're honest about the existence of the black market, regulation rather than prohibition offers the greater solution for achieving goals as is evidenced by the recent trend to end the prohibition of a substance and the positive effect it has had on consumers, suppliers and enforcement.

Worry not, such pursuits will be well hidden and available only to the wealthiest as robotic solutions evolve to be the far more economic answer

 

[RamFan503]

I can't think of a scenario where prohibition actually limits supply from meeting demand. Instead, it's just another form of theft that hurts the consumer as well as the supplier through a black market that affords extortion money for those who control enforcement.

What really baffles me is the argument to insist that supply only be allowed to meet demand for needs, and that's a historically observed slippery slope that always ends in tragedy.

Finally, from a different angle, what is it about sex (outside of religious decree) that makes it immoral to offer as a service for which there is so much demand? If you're honest about the existence of the black market, regulation rather than prohibition offers the greater solution for achieving goals as is evidenced by the recent trend to end the prohibition of a substance and the positive effect it has had on consumers, suppliers and enforcement.

Worry not, such pursuits will be well hidden and available only to the wealthiest as robotic solutions evolve to be the far more economic answer

Slippery slopes can be found everywhere. Personally, I think it’s rather silly to try to prohibit prostitution but at what point do you then regulate. It’s not just religious decree. There are societal norms and standards that come in to play. For example, at what age is it acceptable? Should something be acceptable in our society just because is in another? etc...........