Reeder not to bad in my opinion.

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I will say I saw the instincts in the preseason. If you go back and watch, you'll see him making calls at the line, lining guys up in the right position and always being around the ball.

I'm not saying He's the next great ILB but you can see he's always around the ball, I think you're seeing him mid adjustment to the speed of the NFL. If he continues to improve every week maybe we found ourselves our next ILB.
 

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I will say I saw the instincts in the preseason. If you go back and watch, you'll see him making calls at the line, lining guys up in the right position and always being around the ball.

I'm not saying He's the next great ILB but you can see he's always around the ball, I think you're seeing him mid adjustment to the speed of the NFL. If he continues to improve every week maybe we found ourselves our next ILB.
One of the reasons Ram Reeder won a 53MR spot was his abilities to learn as a new rookie on how Wade's defense works & knowing the proper front seven positions required for the defense called. Another was the fact that Micah Kiser was injured & went to the IR thus giving Ram Reeder his chance. I really doubt that he would be a Ram if that had not occurred. RR is just better in shedding blockers in front of him than Bryce Hager & he is learning fast. In any case RR is now in the drivers seat as the starting MLB'er in Wade's defense.

Rams do not have any ILB'ers on the PS currently & I do not see any other prospect in view to contend with RR. Hager 53MR might NOT be safe. Hager was briefly active for the 9ers game but has missed of 3 gms after suffering injury very early in the Buc's loss. Cory Littleton is RR's back up since Hager's shoulder injury. Not sure he is not bound for the IR...keep an eye on this. Do not be concerned here though because Snead's team had a very big hit on another UDFA MLB'er named Natrez Patrick.

I think all of us were surprised of the ultra fast development of Natrez Patrick. I understand that NP has been playing OLB'er post as a top reserve, but he was a full time starting MLB'er for UG when he was not on disciplinary status or injured. NP has been active for all the Rams regular season games.

NP's ability to play 2 OLB posts plus serious college experience @ MLB'er.....add in Cory Littleton & Hager's unhealthy damaged shoulder........ makes Hager 53MR spot.....precariously @ the top of the list to consider......if Wade wants to add another specialized pass rusher to his 53MR like ER'er Jachai Polite.
 
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I’m a big fan of Reeder. I believe he will be our ILB for the next few years barring injury and if he keeps progressing. Yes, he’s done that well thus far and it’s really his job to lose a this point. I believe the Rams envisioned Kiser to be what Reeder actually is. Prepare to see Reeder’s name very frequently on these boards.

Count me as a big advocate for Reeder’s play.
 

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LB Bryce Hager

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Hager’s decline in 2019 has been sudden. He began the season as a starter in place of Micah Kiser, who suffered a season-ending injury in the preseason. Hager was playing well before injuring his shoulder in Week 4, which gave way to Troy Reeder as the starting inside linebacker.

Hager played zero defensive snaps in Week 6 and was a healthy scratch on Sunday against the Falcons, while Travin Howard was given the green light in his place.

The Rams clearly prefer Reeder over Hager and even like Howard as a backup linebacker, so Hager isn’t doing much on the 53-man roster. Moving him may not be worth it for a late-round pick, but a team looking for linebacker depth might bite for the right price.
 

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LB Bryce Hager

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Hager’s decline in 2019 has been sudden. He began the season as a starter in place of Micah Kiser, who suffered a season-ending injury in the preseason. Hager was playing well before injuring his shoulder in Week 4, which gave way to Troy Reeder as the starting inside linebacker.

Hager played zero defensive snaps in Week 6 and was a healthy scratch on Sunday against the Falcons, while Travin Howard was given the green light in his place.

The Rams clearly prefer Reeder over Hager and even like Howard as a backup linebacker, so Hager isn’t doing much on the 53-man roster. Moving him may not be worth it for a late-round pick, but a team looking for linebacker depth might bite for the right price.

Doubt that happens. Who backs up reeder?
 

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Doubt that happens. Who backs up reeder?
Patrick. Who is very valuable as depth for all the LB spots IMO. Might even be better than Troy, who has himself been a nice surprise.

Also have Howard as an option though he isn't as stout as a pure run stuffer.
 

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Yeah, Natrez Patrick is one of my favorite new Rams. I saw him jumping out in preseason and folks didn't think he'd even make the team and I'm convinced that he's going to be important for us going forward.

He's the kind of player that once he's given a full chance to start, he's never going to look back. I think he's good at OLB, but he could be a pro bowler next to Littleton at ILB.
 

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There’s an old saying in aerospace, speed is valuable if you’re pointed in the right direction.

Reeder is not the fastest guy but he always seems to be pointed in the right direction.

All I know is the Rams run D looks much better recently. How much of that has to do with Reeder? I dunno, but my guess is a good amount.
 

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Welp.... Long ago we had a ILB/MLB who was an UDFA who was quite special. Then we traded him away. Not saying Reeder is anywhere near LF's talent, but the kid has something.

We didn't trade London Fletcher, we let him walk. Jay Zygmunt in his infant wisdom let his strength become his weakness. Zygmunt felt the Rams could not afford to keep both Leonard Little & London Fletcher so the Rams signed Little and then moved quickly to sign a cheaper MLB in Jamie Duncan from the Buccaneers.

Zygmunt did not even pick up the phone to contact Fletcher's agents, he just felt he knew what Fletcher would command, however, after Fletcher signed with the Bills, Zygmunt admitted the Rams could have afforded both contracts, but had already committed to Duncan, who was an epic fail and London signed with the Bills and is one of the many reasons, if I ever run into Jay Zygmunt I'm going to punch him right in his big fat face.
 

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All I know is the Rams run D looks much better recently. How much of that has to do with Reeder? I dunno, but my guess is a good amount.

IMO, Reeder seems to be chasing the play more than attacking. Usually the runner falls over the top of him for extra yardage, yet to see him stuff somebody. Overall for a Fighting Blue Hen, he's not been bad, but after the bye, IMO, you'll see more of Kenny Young.
 

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IMO, Reeder seems to be chasing the play more than attacking. Usually the runner falls over the top of him for extra yardage, yet to see him stuff somebody. Overall for a Fighting Blue Hen, he's not been bad, but after the bye, IMO, you'll see more of Kenny Young.
The obvious question is why was Young benched by Ravens. MLombardi said he was awful.

I’m a big advocate of smart hard working with limited ability over more ability but dumb and undisciplined.
 

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The obvious question is why was Young benched by Ravens. MLombardi said he was awful.

Well, we are about to find out. I know the Rams really wanted Young included in the deal and he was very good at UCLA, but in his senior season missed more tackles then his junior season.

Phillips likes his ILB's to be able to go sideline to sideline and Young offers that capability more than Reeder. Now, I'm not taking away what Reeder has done, but maybe the Ram scheme fits better for Kenny Young like the Ravens scheme is a better fit for Marcus Peters.
 

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I’m a big fan of Reeder. I believe he will be our ILB for the next few years barring injury and if he keeps progressing. Yes, he’s done that well thus far and it’s really his job to lose a this point. I believe the Rams envisioned Kiser to be what Reeder actually is. Prepare to see Reeder’s name very frequently on these boards.

Count me as a big advocate for Reeder’s play.

I don’t think he’s the future. Kiser is a better player.


We didn't trade London Fletcher, we let him walk. Jay Zygmunt in his infant wisdom let his strength become his weakness. Zygmunt felt the Rams could not afford to keep both Leonard Little & London Fletcher so the Rams signed Little and then moved quickly to sign a cheaper MLB in Jamie Duncan from the Buccaneers.

Zygmunt did not even pick up the phone to contact Fletcher's agents, he just felt he knew what Fletcher would command, however, after Fletcher signed with the Bills, Zygmunt admitted the Rams could have afforded both contracts, but had already committed to Duncan, who was an epic fail and London signed with the Bills and is one of the many reasons, if I ever run into Jay Zygmunt I'm going to punch him right in his big fat face.


Plus Lovie Smith wanted Duncan. He played in Tampa, he was the smaller, quicker type of linebacker that Lovie preferred. What a colossal fail.
 

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But let me ask ya... what has he shown you thus far that leads you to believe that he’s indeed a better player? Just curious.


Just basing it off of college play. Kiser dominated against the run at a much higher level than Delaware. Reeder was not as dominant as Kiser at a lower level.
 

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He looked like a heat seeking missile on a couple of run stuffs in that Atlanta game. Nice to see a Ram LB not get washed out on a run up the middle, he's stout in there.
 

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Just basing it off of college play. Kiser dominated against the run at a much higher level than Delaware. Reeder was not as dominant as Kiser at a lower level.

Sure. That makes sense. However, I don’t believe that it would be necessarily fair to truly say that Kiser is better at this moment due to the lack of playing time that results in performance. Athletically, Reeder is up there with the best of them if you’re basing his measurables by combine numbers.
Totally respect the opinion though. (y)
 

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Sure. That makes sense. However, I don’t believe that it would be necessarily fair to truly say that Kiser is better at this moment due to the lack of playing time that results in performance. Athletically, Reeder is up there with the best of them if you’re basing his measurables by combine numbers.
Totally respect the opinion though. (y)


In all but a very important one for a linebacker....change of direction. His lateral movement is lacking. Maybe if he dropped a little weight.
 

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His movement is terrible if he's not running at the line of scrimmage. If he plays on 1st and 2nd down he will continue to be targeted in the pass game, which he has been already. He looks lost and is a full liability in coverage. That's not a good starting ILB in the NFL. That makes him a good run stuffing backup, that's about it. Hilarious to me that people want him to start over Kenny Young. Go watch film on Young, he looks like a beast and played well in the preseason. Much better athlete and better instincts. We requested him specifically to be in the MP trade with Baltimore. I'd say Reeder has another 2 weeks max until he goes back to the riding the pine pony. Coming in mid-season can't be easy for a player, it will take him a few weeks. Unless you're Ramsey lol