Rd 1, pick 19, Rams Select EDGE/DL Jared Verse

[OldSchool]

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[JimY53]

And this where maybe you need to relax. We do that for fun. It tickles me when I see the replacement names. I think most here feel the same.

I don't care and wouldn't want it changed or anything but since people are going to be so sensitive (don't use the word 'Karen' around here, trust me, there will be hell to pay). I just think if you get to do that for the replacement names then people shouldn't get triggered when Belichick is simply mentioned or get upset when a group of people are called "Karen"

What I am seeing is some "dish it out, but can't take it" tendencies. They do it? Fine. They get it a little of it back? They cry foul!

Just be consistent.

 

[JimY53]

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[JimY53]

Fiske plays mostly RDT, does not go from side to side, means he plays 1-T and 3-T. Sine it's a 4-3 he will have to push out a little bit, if he plays Jonah's position, which I expect but like with Verse won't be a big deal. He;s just have to win versus tackles rather than centers and guards on run downs.

But --- he looks like he could match very well with Kobie in passing downs. A DE if you will in the 3-4 and 5-1 defenses and a DT i nteh 4-2-5


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[Corbin]

Rams' top pick, Florida State's Jared Verse, got pre-draft advice from Aaron Donald

The Rams went into the draft with thoughts of helping their pass rush, and Florida State's Jared Verse was still on the board when L.A. made the 19th pick.

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Rams' top pick, Florida State's Jared Verse, got pre-draft advice from Aaron Donald​

Gary Klein
Thu, Apr 25, 2024 at 8:35 PM MDT·5 min read

Florida State defensive lineman Jared Verse should help the Rams' pass rush. (Phelan M. Ebenhack / Associated Press)
A few years ago, before he transferred to Florida State, Jared Verse was making his way as a defensive lineman for Albany when his coach set up a Zoom meeting with Rams star Aaron Donald.
“The biggest thing I took away from the questions I asked him,” Verse said, “was he said, ‘You don’t need a huge arsenal of moves. If you have a couple good moves and execute them to the highest level of your ability you will destroy everyone.’
“And just aggression beats everything.”
On Thursday night, Verse showed his hard work paid off.
The Rams selected the edge rusher with the No. 19 pick in the NFL draft.
Verse is the first player selected by the Rams in the first round since general manager Les Snead traded up a record 14 spots to choose Jared Goff with the No. 1 pick in 2016.

Florida State's Jared Verse (5) says he has been proving doubters wrong at every level of competitive football. (Matthew Hinton / Associated Press)
“It’s time to work,” Verse said during a video conference with reporters. “It’s time to show they didn’t make a mistake.
“It’s time to show ’em what we do. I’m excited for it. I’m excited to get work. ... I’m ready for it.”
Verse is also the first defensive lineman selected by the Rams in the first round since they chose Donald 13th in 2014. Now, Verse will be asked to help replace Donald, a three-time NFL defensive player of the year who announced his retirement in March.
“That’s big shoes to fill,” Verse said. “That’s an out-of-this-world player. That’s a once-in-a-lifetime future Hall of Famer. That’s one of the best players to ever live.
“But to be able to be in a position where they expect me to come in there and be able to fill that role — that’s something I’m ready for. Pressure makes diamonds. And I love pressure.”
Read more: USC's Caleb Williams, UCLA's Laiatu Latu are top pick and top defender taken in draft
Verse was the first player chosen in the first round by Rams coach Sean McVay since he became the Rams coach in 2017. Donald was part of five teams that made the playoffs and played in two Super Bowls, winning one.
“We’re never going to ask anybody to replace Aaron,” McVay said, “but you do want to continue to build the front, continue to be able to do those types of things. And Jared represented an opportunity to do that.
“We did feel like that there was maybe not quite as deep of an outside linebacker group, and so to be able to get a player of his caliber was really encouraging and everybody was fired up about that.”
Verse was “one of the probably top three players in terms of stamping, ‘We want this guy to be a Ram,’” Snead said.
“He cares about football, he has fun playing football and — Oh, by the way, he’s pretty disruptive, violent,” Snead said. “You think defense, the way he plays is next to the word in the dictionary.”
Verse played two seasons at Albany and two at Florida State, amassing 31½ sacks. He had nine sacks in each of his two seasons at Florida State, and last season had 12½ tackles for lost yardage.
Read more: Drafted by Bears 25 years ago, another QB from L.A. shares advice for Caleb Williams
Snead said before the draft that he was pondering staying put at No. 19, or perhaps trading up for a prospect, or back for more picks.
Snead, McVay, assistant coaches and scouts gathered at the Rams draft house in Hermosa Beach, and watched 14 offensive players come off the board — including six quarterbacks — before the Indianapolis Colts took UCLA edge rusher Laiatu Latu.
The Seattle Seahawks took Texas defensive tackle Byron Murphy II and the Minnesota Vikings traded up to select Alabama edge rusher Dallas Turner. When the Cincinnati Bengals selected Georgia offensive tackle Amarius Mims, that opened the door for the Rams.
The heavy emphasis on offensive players, “and probably the six QBs going helped Jared get to us,” Snead said.
New defensive coordinator Chris Shula can now construct a front that blends Verse with second-year pros Kobie Turner and edge rusher Byron Young, both second-year pros.
Verse said he received a text from Turner shortly after he was drafted, telling him to reach out for whatever he needed.
“I’m going to take him up on that offer,” Verse said, chuckling, “He’s going to regret sending that to me.”
Read more: Quarterback-starved Chicago wondering if Caleb Williams is (finally) the right answer
Turner and Young also played at smaller schools before transferring to Power 5 schools.
Verse said during his time at Albany, he worked for Amazon and DoorDash to make ends meet. He said he plays with a chip on his shoulder because people doubted he could play college football, then doubted he could succeed at Florida State, and then doubted he could become a high draft pick.
He said he believes there are still doubters.
“I want people to doubt me on that one,” he said, “so I can prove ’em wrong one more time.”
Snead said Verse, as with Turner and Young, demonstrated competitiveness by challenging themselves to play at higher levels.
“Players that say, ‘Hey, you know what? I want to try at a level higher, the next level of the video game’ and then to go there and continue playing well, that definitely means something, shows something,” Snead said.
The Rams have 10 picks remaining in the draft, which continues Friday with the second and third rounds and concludes Saturday with the final four rounds.

Jared Verse — Edge​

6 feet 4, 254 pounds, Florida State, Round 1, Pick 19
Notable: Verse played two seasons at Albany before transferring. He amassed 31½ sacks during his career, including 18 at Florida State. In 2023 he had at least two sacks in four games, including 2½ against Florida.
Last season: Verse had nine sacks and 1½ tackles for losses in 13 games for the Seminoles. He was an AFCA All-American.
Why the Rams drafted him: Future Hall of Fame defensive lineman Aaron Donald’s retirement left a gaping hole in a pass rush that already was in need of reinforcements. Tackle Kobie Turner and edge rusher Byron Young showed promise last season as rookies but, for the Rams to compete for a Super Bowl title, new defensive coordinator Chris Shula needs more players who can consistently pressure quarterbacks.

 

[RamsSince1969]

I like this draft quite a bit better than that 2006 draft.

 

[RamFan503]

I don't care and wouldn't want it changed or anything but since people are going to be so sensitive (don't use the word 'Karen' around here, trust me, there will be hell to pay). I just think if you get to do that for the replacement names then people shouldn't get triggered when Belichick is simply mentioned or get upset when a group of people are called "Karen"

What I am seeing is some "dish it out, but can't take it" tendencies. They do it? Fine. They get it a little of it back? They cry foul!

Just be consistent.

Meh. Saying fuck bellicheat doesn't strike me as sensitive. I also don't see the dish it out crap. What are they not taking for dishing out. Pretty poor reference. I think you're putting far too much into some pretty simple shit.

 

[JimY53]

Verse at 3-T and Fiske at 1 - a little early season scheme diversity


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[JimY53]

a couple more packages --- a 3x1 from with Fiske at nose ... Rams use it a lot

and a 3-2 dime with Fiske as an edge


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[thirteen28]

Fiske, Turner, Verse, and Young - sack attorneys at law. We are a full-service front 7 firm that can provide all your QB sack and pressure needs.

 

[WestCoastRam]

It does really seem like we're looking at position versatility on the Dline these days.

 

[JimY53]

https://talkoffametwo.com/nfl/rams-fsu-2024-nfl-draft

School's In: Rams Make History Again with First Two Draft Picks​

For the fourth time in franchise history, the Rams chose players from the same school (this time FSU) with their first two picks.


What the Los Angeles Rams did the first two days of the 2024 draft was nothing unusual ... and I'm not talking about choosing two defensive players. I'm talking about choosing two defensive players from the same school.

On Thursday, they drafted edge player Jared Verse with the 19th overall pick. The following evening, they traded up in the second round to choose defensive interior Braden Fiske with the 39th selection. Both played at Florida State University, and if that sounds familiar it should. It's the fourth time the Rams have made back-to-back picks from one school with their first two picks in a draft.
And the others? Glad you asked:

-- The first was in 1945 when the Rams -- then in Cleveland -- took Michigan back Elroy "Crazylegs" Hirsch in the first round and lineman Milan Lazetich, also a Wolverine, in the second.

-- Forty-four years later, they had two first-round picks -- including one as part of the booty from the Eric Dickerson trade in 1987. With their first selection (the 21st overall) in the 1989 NFL draft, they chose defensive end Bill Hawkins out of the University of Miami (FL). Five picks later, they took Hurricanes' running back Cleveland Gary.

-- Finally, in 1992, they raided the University of Pittsburgh, picking defensive tackle Sean Gilbert in Round One and cornerback Steve Israel in the second round.

Of the three we can gauge, the 1945 picks were the most successful.
Hirsch began his collegiate career at the University of Wisconsin but finished in Ann Arbor before serving in the Marine Corps. After his military service, he signed with the Chicago Rockets of the new All-America Football Conference (AAFC) rather than the NFL Rams but eventually ended up in Los Angeles in 1949 where he was moved from halfback to end.

The rest is history. Literally.

When the Rams won the NFL championship in 1951, he led the league in catches, yards receiving, yards per catch, touchdown receptions and he had the season's longest play, a 91-yard reception. Hirsch is the only player to lead in all five official receiving stats in a single season.

While you've heard of Hirsch, you probably don't know about Milan Lazetich. He went by "Mike," but his nickname was "The Sheriff" long before Jon Gruden dubbed Peyton Manning with that moniker. He played both ways -- guard on offense, linebacker on the other side of the ball -- and he was good enough to be named All-Pro by International News Service, a wire service that was smaller than Associated Press and United Press.

It wasn't as prestigious as the others, but it did predate the AP All-Pro team by three years. So let's give him some credit. Plus, former Rams' owner the late Dan Reeves picked Lazetich to his all-time Rams' team shortly before his untimely death in 1971.

Contrast that with the 1989 iteration of double-dipping that didn't work out so well. Neither of the two picks were All-Pro, Pro Bowl or anything else by a wire service, major or minor. Bill Hawkins kept getting hurt, and Cleveland Gary kept fumbling - -24 times in 1,000 offensive touches -- as well as frustrating coaches.

However, Gary's 14 touchdowns did tie for the NFL lead in 1990 when he ran for over 800 yards. Plus, two years later, he rushed for over 1,000.
That same year -- 1992 -- Hawkins was trying to make his last stand. New Rams' coach Chuch Knox moved to a more orthodox 4-3 defense after one year of Jeff Fisher's 4-3 Bear-front in 1991 and one year prior to Fritz Shurmur's 3-4 in 1993. Hawkins had been hurt under Fisher and didn't fit the 3-4. But even when the Rams went to their Shurmur's innovative "Eagle" and "Hawk" defenses he played inside, and his production was minimal.

Hawkins did start at right defensive end in Knox's first year, but he was injured by midseason -- making it four-for-four in years where he played and was hurt, signaling the end to his career.

However, by that time, the Rams were already on to young defensive help. They chose defensive tackle Sean Gilbert and Steve Israel, a super-fast cornerback, in Rounds One and Two of the 1992 draft.

Gilbert was a good player -- he made the Pro Bowl in his second year and was a Pro Bowl alternate in 1995 -- but a contract dispute prior to the 1996 season had him traded to Washington for a first-round draft choice. Israel had rare speed (a 4.2 40), but he only started in his second season. After that, he was like Hawkins: He couldn't stay healthy. By his fourth year, he was a 49er ... by his sixth, a member of the New England Patriots ... and by his ninth -- his last-- with the New Orleans Saints.

So there you have it. Three times the Rams banked on one program at the top of the draft, and twice it didn't work out so well, for either of the highly valued picks.

As for the 2024 iteration? Verse and Fiske each have a strong chance of starting this fall. The Rams needed to upgrade their edge pressure from 2023, and they lost two defensive interior players -- future Hall-of-Famer Aaron Donald and Jonah Williams. To fill those holes, they picked Verse to replace last year's starter, Michael Hoecht, and Fiske to follow Williams.

History is against them, but give them time. Both should be starters and contributing. Plus, given their talent, they could ... with the emphasis on could ... challenge the 1945 dynamic duo in productivity.

 

[Memphis Ram]

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[JimY53]

Verse at 3-tech


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[TheTackle]

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[Elmgrovegnome]

I honestly don't we need to trade up for Fiske, but, if we are trading up for anything (especially a DT) it should be Newton.

Seriously? Dude had 3 tackles last year and hit his pregnant girlfriend (allegedly)

It was discovered that Newton has a Jones fracture. Which is usually a recurring injury.

I don't care and wouldn't want it changed or anything but since people are going to be so sensitive (don't use the word 'Karen' around here, trust me, there will be hell to pay). I just think if you get to do that for the replacement names then people shouldn't get triggered when Belichick is simply mentioned or get upset when a group of people are called "Karen"

What I am seeing is some "dish it out, but can't take it" tendencies. They do it? Fine. They get it a little of it back? They cry foul!

Just be consistent.

Calling anyone a Karen is akin to any other slur. Would you like being called a smug asshole? A know it all? An arrogant prick? I didn't think so. Nobody does, even if its used in the general sense, i.e. "This site is full of smug assholes". If that were the sentiment then don't be surprised if people said " if that's how you feel, then leave". When something provocative is said it is intended to get a reaction. Why be upset when that hapoens? It's best and more enjoyable to leave opinions like that, off of the forum. And if you are tired of arguing with certain posters, its ready to hit ignore. It makes things more enjoyable.

If someone has a negative reaction to a person being cited on here, such as Belichick, or Brady, or Payton, then so be it. To each their own nobody has to like or respect cheaters or people of low character. Its a fan forum. Fanatics can be unforgiving. I wouldn't take offense to that all. Passion is often itrational.

 

[JimY53]

It was discovered that Newton has a Jones fracture. Which is usually a recurring injury.

Calling anyone a Karen is akin to any other slur. Would you like being called a smug asshole? A know it all? An arrogant prick? I didn't think so.

I don't mind, though. It's happened here and will happen again. You are passive-aggressively doing it now.

Sticks and stones.

You can say it directly, don't have to put it behind a hypothetical. That's the difference. What people say about me does not matter to me. I've even had those things said about me with F-bombs sprinkled it.

Mostly makes me laugh.

If someone has a negative reaction to a person being cited on here, such as Belichick, or Brady, or Payton, then so be it. To each their own nobody has to like or respect cheaters or people of low character. Its a fan forum. Fanatics can be unforgiving. I wouldn't take offense to that all. Passion is often itrational.

That's it. When people will go the the lengths of treating others -- Belichick, Brady, Sean Peyton that way-- with a word replacement ... I have no problem with it. But I do think it's odd that they can dish it out but freak out when called Karen because they were OVERLY sensitive.

But if I see someone is overly sensitive I won't call them a Karen anymore --- this has already been addressed by the way/

But I will be thinking what I think and that's "People who dish it out should be able to take it a little better" but if they choose to be offended --- that's their right. No question.

 

[Elmgrovegnome]

I don't mind, though. It's happened here and will happen again. You are passive-aggressively doing it now.

Sticks and stones.

You can say it directly, don't have to put it behind a hypothetical. That's the difference. What people say about me does not matter to me. I've even had those things said about me with F-bombs sprinkled it.

Mostly makes me laugh.


That's it. When people will go the the lengths of treating others -- Belichick, Brady, Sean Peyton that way-- with a word replacement ... I have no problem with it. But I do think it's odd that they can dish it out but freak out when called Karen because they were OVERLY sensitive.

But if I see someone is overly sensitive I won't call them a Karen anymore --- this has already been addressed by the way/

But I will be thinking what I think and that's "People who dish it out should be able to take it a little better" but if they choose to be offended --- that's their right. No question.

I wasn’t being passive aggressive. I just felt that you struggle to grasp the concept since you brought it back up after ‘ it has already been hashed out’.

 

[JimY53]

I wasn’t being passive aggressive.

Disagree.

I just felt that you struggle to grasp the concept since you brought it back up after ‘ it has already been hashed out’.

Disagree. I see it pretty well.

 

[RamFan503]

Disagree. I see it pretty well.

Clearly not.