Rams vs Dolphins stills

[Reddog99]

Its always fun to read these thanks Merlin

 

[Dz1]

Merlin we got to get you a NFL job bro.

Thanks for the breakdowns.

 

[Merlin]

It doesn't matter he's a statue. Use the outlet and none of this happens. Mcvay has to get on his arse and make sure it doesn't happen again.

Goff is almost there. Once he gets there, look out.

This is where I'm at. I'm just fuckin tired of being here. I want to see mastery.

 

[Merlin]

Merlin we got to get you a NFL job bro.

Thanks for the breakdowns.

I'm nowhere near that level and I know it but thank you for the kind words lol.

 

[Ram_Rally]

You’re paid $33 million a year to see this shit.
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It's literally drawn up to be that way. How did he miss it

 

[Dz1]

I'm nowhere near that level and I know it but thank you for the kind words lol.

I never doubt the great one's lol.

Have,a good night.

 

[matt30]

You’re paid $33 million a year to see this shit.
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This is a situation where the stills are deceptive. They are on the right hash with the reads going from left to right. 1-Reynolds, 2-Kupp, 3-Woods. Woods route stays viable the longest. Kupp is on a timing route. The blocking scheme should have a body on every rusher so Goff should be going through his progressions.

It looks like Reynolds beats his man deep (which is how you beat cover 0), but the interior of the line doesn't hold up.

A dink and dunk QB would have given up on the Reynolds route out of fear before the ball was even snapped. Based on the broadcast, it does actually look like Goff was right to stick with Reynolds (other than not feeling the line breakdown). Plus it was second down. That's a low probability throw. If the coverage is the same on the next down you have a good shot at getting the first down with a higher probability throw.

 

[Tano]

This is a situation where the stills are deceptive. They are on the right hash with the reads going from left to right. 1-Reynolds, 2-Kupp, 3-Woods. Woods route stays viable the longest. Kupp is on a timing route. The blocking scheme should have a body on every rusher so Goff should be going through his progressions.

It looks like Reynolds beats his man deep (which is how you beat cover 0), but the interior of the line doesn't hold up.

A dink and dunk QB would have given up on the Reynolds route out of fear before the ball was even snapped. Based on the broadcast, it does actually look like Goff was right to stick with Reynolds (other than not feeling the line breakdown). Plus it was second down. That's a low probability throw. If the coverage is the same on the next down you have a good shot at getting the first down with a higher probability throw.

Yes but I hate the fact that Reynolds is so lackluster on catching the ball. Show some aggression man.

 

[Merlin]

This is a situation where the stills are deceptive. They are on the right hash with the reads going from left to right. 1-Reynolds, 2-Kupp, 3-Woods. Woods route stays viable the longest. Kupp is on a timing route. The blocking scheme should have a body on every rusher so Goff should be going through his progressions.

It looks like Reynolds beats his man deep (which is how you beat cover 0), but the interior of the line doesn't hold up.

A dink and dunk QB would have given up on the Reynolds route out of fear before the ball was even snapped. Based on the broadcast, it does actually look like Goff was right to stick with Reynolds (other than not feeling the line breakdown). Plus it was second down. That's a low probability throw. If the coverage is the same on the next down you have a good shot at getting the first down with a higher probability throw.

First off the blocking scheme does not have a body on every rusher. It's zero. So there's an extra rusher. The read was not disguised by Miami it was clear pre-snap, so in that read the QB knows he's on a quickened tempo to dish that ball.

Secondly yes he should be going through his progressions. Which means knowing Reynolds is on a long-developing route against a top corner you move quickly to the second read, and then quickly to the third read. But he doesn't get through his progressions. He sticks on a low percentage throw that a vet QB should know (Extra rusher + Reynolds vs Jones = move to next read).

Thirdly had he gotten through his reads he would have made a high percentage completion to an open wideout and maybe for a big play. The Dolphins had an error there to capitalize on but the QB didn't see it.

That play is not indicative of what we usually see with Goff. He was not the same guy Sunday. Normally he is much smoother and in control but for whatever reason he played like a rook under that pressure with all manner of mistakes that were out of character. If you want to argue that, well, I think there will never be any convincing you that Goff is capable of making an error.

 

[matt30]

First off the blocking scheme does not have a body on every rusher. It's zero. So there's an extra rusher. The read was not disguised by Miami it was clear pre-snap, so in that read the QB knows he's on a quickened tempo to dish that ball.

Secondly yes he should be going through his progressions. Which means knowing Reynolds is on a long-developing route against a top corner you move quickly to the second read, and then quickly to the third read. But he doesn't get through his progressions. He sticks on a low percentage throw that a vet QB should know (Extra rusher + Reynolds vs Jones = move to next read).

Thirdly had he gotten through his reads he would have made a high percentage completion to an open wideout and maybe for a big play. The Dolphins had an error there to capitalize on but the QB didn't see it.

That play is not indicative of what we usually see with Goff. He was not the same guy Sunday. Normally he is much smoother and in control but for whatever reason he played like a rook under that pressure with all manner of mistakes that were out of character. If you want to argue that, well, I think there will never be any convincing you that Goff is capable of making an error.

You're right about the blocking. I missed that and I'm not even seeing the play in real time.

However, it's not nearly egregious as people are claiming. With no safety this play was a second away from being a house call. A third read receiver, on the backside of the play, coming open at the snap isn't something that is going to be immediately recognized. Jones or no Jones, Reynolds was in position to make a play.

This is pretty common among top QBs. Here's a video with Goff, Allen, Mahomes, and Rodgers against cover 0. In this case they all take a shot down the field. All are incompletions. Most of these videos have the hot route covered but all the QBs stay on their #1 (deep route) when they think he has leverage.


View: https://youtu.be/WeSiiukZ9wY

 

[Merlin]

However, it's not nearly egregious as people are claiming.

You're now at the rationalizing stage where we're going to go back and forth ad nauseum. So it's cool to disagree and spare everyone that particular exchange. Cheers my man and let's both hope Goff rebounds with a huge game vs Seattle.

 

[madrid311]

very nice work merlin. they must see this stuff in class and still f it up on game day. whos fault is that? distracted, rich, happy qb. he needs some angst.

 

[matt30]

You're now at the rationalizing stage where we're going to go back and forth ad nauseum.

No need for the cheap shots. We obviously have a difference of opinion. The blocking scheme doesn't change anything about the analysis. I would much rather hear your opinion than a psychoanalysis of me. I'm here to talk football, not trade insults.

 

[Dz1]

After year 1 or 2 a starting Qb should be able to read the line and adjust personal.

And A Coach seeing his Qb get hammered throwing Ints should force that issue and demand those adjustments.

 

[MachS]

No need for the cheap shots. We obviously have a difference of opinion. The blocking scheme doesn't change anything about the analysis. I would much rather hear your opinion than a psychoanalysis of me. I'm here to talk football, not trade insults.

I think most are just tired of the BS excuses for Goff when its clear he didn't execute well. McVay made it clear too. It's beyond frustrating when you sit there and say it wasn't nearly as egregious as people are claiming. Did you watch the entire game? This type of shit gets taught in high school and college. They did not disguise the coverage...It's a 3 WR read. They showed blitz at the line and Goff didn't look to his hot or even try to get the ball out quick. If you want to briefly look to take a shot, you better be able to get off of that route quickly enough to get rid of the football when you see the rush coming. He didn't anticipate the blitz for whatever reason, he didn't see the wide open WR, he didn't go through his progressions well enough. Stop trying to defend his bad play. Kurt Warner was straight clowning Goff on twitter because he looked so lost against the blitz. He had a horrible game, lets just move on and hope he improves moving forward. But sitting here wasting time trying to defend that performance is insulting.

 

[LouisvilleRam]

Who or what is "Hendy"?

2nd year man out of Memphis

 

[matt30]

I think most are just tired of the BS excuses for Goff when its clear he didn't execute well. McVay made it clear too. It's beyond frustrating when you sit there and say it wasn't nearly as egregious as people are claiming. Did you watch the entire game? This type of shit gets taught in high school and college. They did not disguise the coverage...It's a 3 WR read. They showed blitz at the line and Goff didn't look to his hot or even try to get the ball out quick. If you want to briefly look to take a shot, you better be able to get off of that route quickly enough to get rid of the football when you see the rush coming. He didn't anticipate the blitz for whatever reason, he didn't see the wide open WR, he didn't go through his progressions well enough. Stop trying to defend his bad play. Kurt Warner was straight clowning Goff on twitter because he looked so lost against the blitz. He had a horrible game, lets just move on and hope he improves moving forward. But sitting here wasting time trying to defend that performance is insulting.

Take a look at that video I posted. Deep shots against 0 are routine. I'm happy to point out flaws in Goffs game when I see them. That play wasn't one. Goff held the ball long enough to make the read and did get the ball off. I don't know which statement you're referring to or which play McVay or Warner are talking about but that play likely isn't the one. It didn't result in a turnover and was the right call.

Reynolds man was beat. He was the first read. The ball got off before the rush got home. There was no reason to go immediately to the 3rd read when it's only second down. Just because the play was not successful does not mean the play was wrong. Going to the hot route when you have an opportunity for a TD is not winning NFL football. It's a very results driven analysis.

 

[KJD_Ram]

You’re paid $33 million a year to see this shit.
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another knock on Goff...he usually defaults to the bigger gain, much to the Rams detriment....and the times that he did throw to the crosser underneath it seemed the ball was batted down....hit a couple of those and I think the Phins reevaluate...

 

[dieterbrock]

You’re paid $33 million a year to see this shit.

Lol.
He's not seeing it in a screen shot from up above the field. He's seeing the field with 2-3 Dlineman between him and the receiver. And the initial read is left there as there are 2 WR on that side.
The game on the field looks nothing like it does in pictures