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This is why I put up the situation so folks can review the play themselves. But yeah sometimes I wonder if folks even look at them or give a fuck lol.

But either way I wanted to see how bad it was. It was worse than I thought tbh.

I get it, and appreciate the effort and time you put in to them and the commentary. Just not all the same conclusions but that's the American way. :beer2:
 

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Pre-snap showing zero again, 8 on 7 for the rush
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At the snap all 8 are comin. Brown diagnoses the rush well.
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Where's the hot? Top of the screen. But Goff is still reading left.
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Good thing we got a roughing the passer there
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Oh and I don't know how Goff got that ball to the sideline but he did
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I get it, and appreciate the effort and time you put in to them and the commentary. Just not all the same conclusions but that's the American way. :beer2:
No sweat man I enjoy the dialogue btw. Doesn't bug me that others think something else went on. It's really nice nowadays that we can do this eh? Didn't used to be this way and I love it.

Need to transition to vid someday but I'm an idiot with vid capture and editing.
 

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Yeah its easy to decide what the coverage is when you already know the outcome of the play.
Appreciate the work, but I find it comical how many think they really know whats going on
 

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I have to agree with Merlin and his stills. Goff needs to be aware when he sees 6 guys on the line, and only 5 blockers. But he obviously thought Everett was the best option, and did not even consider Reynolds or Henderson. And it looks like both of them are wide open and might have scored a touchdown. I give Goff credit for standing in there... he's a tough MOF... but he needs to be able to read defenses better. I don't get it... he has always been able to move around a bit and avoid hits, but yesterday he looked like a rookie at times. JMHO.
He might be tough but I don’t think he’s the brightest bulb in the box.
How does he not see the rush coming right in his face and flip it to Henderson or Reynolds.
That's the difference between our boy and Wilson or Patrick mahomes..those guys would pump fake or move a little to open up space.
I love Goff but he’s a damn statue.
 

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I do suspect there was some half-field read design going on by McVay, probably in anticipation of the rush. Simply because there are so many instances of Jared not even surveying the other side. He's very capable of getting through reads it's not like he's the guy we see on so many of those plays particularly the ones in the first half.

Also it's crazy how many snaps there were in this game. I was exhausted just going through them all. And the Phins are a hell of a secondary too. IMO my feel that our QB's head was spinning was only reinforced by reviewing the game. Also it was like watching a Belichick defense, they were just all over everything to a gnat's ass, I mean guys getting hands up and bodies in the right lanes for shit behind them, good rubs on routes, etc and when things were there they had Goff all out of sorts and he missed shit.

I can't imagine a secondary doing a better job than the Dolphins just did. So if nothing else it was good practice for our offense to beat their heads against this group for 4 quarters especially with all the snaps thanks to our defense getting off the field so well. This is another growing game for our QB but once again now that we're in year 5 I am getting tired of seeing growth games. I'd like to see more of him putting shit together just my take here dudes. I love Goff and still think we can get where we need to go with him but not gonna lie some concerns are there now in the back of my head.
 

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Pre-snap Phins showing cover 2. Left safety has deep responsibility (Jones bottom screen is on an island) and right safety will team up with 52 to double Kupp
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At the snap 52 is dropping and 54 is starting a stunt that will bring pressure in Goff's face.
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Edwards tries to stay with him, and we can see the routes are pretty much covered
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Edwards does a pretty good job of pushing him past his QB. Ugly but effective. But Blythe's assignment is coming free
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Reynolds has managed to get a step on the DB and Goff risks the throw
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Goff misses a bit behind, the DB tries to haul the pass in but drops it. Note Reynolds as usual not providing any sort of aggression to the ball.
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Extremely underthrown. He throws that to the end zone and Reynolds will get it.
 

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Appreciate the time and effort @Merlin.. a lot of people like to use stats or metrics to form their all their opinions when they should be using their eyes. Nothing better than film or photo evidence, it does not lie. I wouldn't have had the stomach to go through this game again so :beer2:.
 

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Yeah its easy to decide what the coverage is when you already know the outcome of the play.
Appreciate the work, but I find it comical how many think they really know whats going on
Morbid curiosity. How do you know that they don't know? How do we know that Kurt warner doesn't post on this board under an alias?
 

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I appreciate the work Merlin but honestly we as fans can only deduce
A very limited amount from this Monday morning QBing unless we knew the play calls, what is said in Goffs headset, what is said in the huddle and any calls Goff is making at the LOS.

Posters making comments like Goff had a wide open guy on the other side of the field or the WR should have cut the route short on the hot - is short sighted. It has no basis in reality. At best it’s speculation.

Goff is given a play call and expecting protection according to expected internal clock. The protection failed over and over forcing turnovers that determined the game.

Its clear from the gametape that the game was lost presnap. The dolphins won the X and O game presnap. Mcvay admitted this in the postgame.

It’s the beautiful thing about football. A team that can only muster 100 yards can beat a team that puts up 500 yards. There are a few ways to beat a
Better team. We’ve now been beaten by a team that played more physical (Niners) and a team that out schemed us.


Goff has some blame in this game but posters putting an interception on him when the protection broke down and his arm was hit, or a free rusher hits him blindside at full speed causing a fumble - come on man. That has nothing to do with Goff. The many drops and tipped passes also has zero to do with Goff.
 
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I think the frustration flv comes from him still not seeing the field well after 5 years. We're not asking him to go through a 5 man progression. This is a 3 WR read and he doesnt see wide open WR. In the other stills, there's a short route built into each concept. How does he not know where his hot route is? Or why is he not anticipating going there when he sees 6-7 defenders showing blitz? He locks his eyes to one side of the field constantly.

Its not about making a few bad reads or decisions. Its the lack of improvement shown in an area good QBs must excel in. Why do we run so many PA flood concepts? B/c it gives him a half field read: flat, intermediate, and deep. How often do we see him start scannning, sit in the pocket, and go through 3-4 WRs in his progression and complete it to WR 3 or 4 in that read? Its rare. I'd wager majority of his completions go to his 1st or 2nd read.
 

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I just decided to watch only the first half of this game again, and I cannot get how this game took a complete 180 in the first half. We had complete control of the first qtr. If we kept running the ball the score would of been Rams 14 Miami 0. I am not a fan of McVays time management. Why you upping the tempo trying to force balls in the 1st qtr knowing damn well you are already controlling the game. A lot of those errors should have never happened. McVay did no favors Goff one bit in fact he made Goff look green. If we are ahead and in control we need to run out the clock as much as we can and not give opposing teams oppurtunities to go ahead. Yesterdays game was a blue print outline of what not to do. So hopefully it doesn’t happen again. Our ST sucks badly. Except for Hekker and McQuaide.
 

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This is the one that has been covered the most so let's start here...

Pre-snap Goff tells Hendy he's on the wrong side. Since we don't know the call I presume here that Hendy knew his route was on that side but missed the motion, so that leads me to think Hendy was not on protection duty
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At the snap Hendy's in motion. I've put the routes on the still and you can see the play is designed with Reynolds as the HOT (red). He's the blitz beater. Reason I think that is a safe assumption is the other two clear it out and that underneath should be open. Solid design, nothing special, pretty fucking common in fact for a redzone pass play.
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At the drop Goff likes the matchup on 81 and is ready to throw it. But the Dolphins brought 6 and there's only 5 OL. The QB simply did not note the protection issue. Had he noted the protection issue he has two options: 1 is throwing to the HOT, and 2 is checking out of the play. Goff has full control at the LOS and could easily check out of the play but he didn't. Because he missed it.
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And that's a wrap. Bet that DE's eyes were big as saucers lol. ALSO: note the DB's positioning there and tell me how you think that throw would have gone down, hard to imagine that resulting in a TD for us.
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Who or what is "Hendy"?
 

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I love Goff but he’s a damn statue.

It doesn't matter he's a statue. Use the outlet and none of this happens. Mcvay has to get on his arse and make sure it doesn't happen again.

Goff is almost there. Once he gets there, look out.

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Always good stuff Merlin. The offense as a whole struggled badly vs the zero blitz. Until we learn we can stop it, every team should run it.
 

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I just decided to watch only the first half of this game again, and I cannot get how this game took a complete 180 in the first half. We had complete control of the first qtr. If we kept running the ball the score would of been Rams 14 Miami 0. I am not a fan of McVays time management. Why you upping the tempo trying to force balls in the 1st qtr knowing damn well you are already controlling the game. A lot of those errors should have never happened. McVay did no favors Goff one bit in fact he made Goff look green. If we are ahead and in control we need to run out the clock as much as we can and not give opposing teams oppurtunities to go ahead. Yesterdays game was a blue print outline of what not to do. So hopefully it doesn’t happen again. Our ST sucks badly. Except for Hekker and McQuaide.
We could have won this game 10-0. Miami wasn’t doing jack shit against our defense. After recovering the fumble in our own territory, I was hoping we would just take our time and run the ball. Take the free points! 10-0 and now we control the game. Goff should have thrown 15 times all game.
 

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You’re paid $33 million a year to see this shit.
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You are paid to execute the play to the primary and secondary WR just like the coach drew it up in the game plan and how you threw it in the walk thru, not how the fans think it should have gone on a still on Monday morning where everyone is has the priveledge of seeing the entire field from a camera above. The WR’s haven’t even made their beaks yet, why in the Hell would Goff look them off while the play is still developing. :LOL:

I could Literally do this same exercise of showing missed open WR’s with every single QB in the the NFL from Sunday.


We are all Eisteins and former Hall of fame QB’s on Monday morning :)

$33 million also doesn’t get you a QB that can call his own game plan, block 11 defenders and also catch the ball when it’s literally right in his hands.

It does get you a hot girlfriend and a bunch of complaining fans however.
 
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