Rams trying to trade Tru J.

[OldSchool]

Unless they don't trade him and the Rams are stuck with that albatross of a cap hit
If this was by design and they cant pull off a trade then its a total failure

And again there's the difference in our view of this and other situations. I try to think about how we can benefit from them, you chose to be negative and think about how bad they are. I got nothing but love for ya my Rams brother, we just have a fundamentally different outlook on things.

 

[BonifayRam]

It s apparent to me the Rams are trying to get back first round pick.

What could be there in the later half of the first round that might have the new Rams Org. major interest?

IMO its one of two areas.....Phillips is looking for versatile OSLB'er defender capable of rushing off the edge or dropping into coverage in his dynamic schemes. Currently Phillips lacks any kind of healthy wrecker off the edge with explosive first-step quickness & burst. Wade has no one who shows the ability to turn speed into power as a bull rusher off the OSLB'er edge.

HC McVay on the other hand may have as his priority # 1 protection of Goff's blind side...finding LT who has strong preparation habits, aware of his surroundings to pick up spins and stunts, a OT with 3 to 4 year starter at left tackle in college, knows proper hand placement & aggressive hands to answer counter measures & finally stays square & can mirror. All those traits are totally VOID & absent in GRob.

 

[OldSchool]

Well we can all be positive, but this trade would of went in a blink of an eye if it was someone like AD tier, but since its Tru we may not be so lucky and we already inflated his worth. Let's just hope we see W's with whoever we sign. Go Rams!

Not really, because AD would have more suitors and it would take time to sort thru the offers. What's everybody's rush to get this done? More teams involved and more offers is just going to drive up our return. The off season is more than a couple days long

 

[OldSchool]

What could be there in the later half of the first round that might have the new Rams Org. major interest?

IMO its one of two areas.....Phillips is looking for versatile OSLB'er defender capable of rushing off the edge or dropping into coverage in his dynamic schemes. Currently Phillips lacks any kind of healthy wrecker off the edge with explosive first-step quickness & burst. Wade has no one who shows the ability to turn speed into power as a bull rusher off the OSLB'er edge.

HC McVay on the other hand may have as his priority # 1 protection of Goff's blind side...finding LT who has strong preparation habits, aware of his surroundings to pick up spins and stunts, a OT with 3 to 4 year starter at left tackle in college, knows proper hand placement & aggressive hands to answer counter measures & finally stays square & can mirror. All those traits are totally VOID & absent in GRob.

Late first round screams Garret Bolles or Lamp to me. Maybe Ross.

 

[So Ram]

So, what if he ends up being paid more than any Corner in the NFL? Next year another corner will have that title. In four years he will seem like a bargain compared to what the top corners will be paid. The cap keeps going up and so do the contracts.

If he plays bad then he will get paid less.It will work it's self out . The Rams needed to lock either Johnson or JJ up.
It is what it is.Now The Rams need to lock Aaron Donald up.
Everyone wants to bag on Barron , but he played better than Tru last season.

 

[NERamsFan]

What could be there in the later half of the first round that might have the new Rams Org. major interest?

IMO its one of two areas.....Phillips is looking for versatile OSLB'er defender capable of rushing off the edge or dropping into coverage in his dynamic schemes. Currently Phillips lacks any kind of healthy wrecker off the edge with explosive first-step quickness & burst. Wade has no one who shows the ability to turn speed into power as a bull rusher off the OSLB'er edge.

HC McVay on the other hand may have as his priority # 1 protection of Goff's blind side...finding LT who has strong preparation habits, aware of his surroundings to pick up spins and stunts, a OT with 3 to 4 year starter at left tackle in college, knows proper hand placement & aggressive hands to answer counter measures & finally stays square & can mirror. All those traits are totally VOID & absent in GRob.

Forrest Motherf'in' Lamp baby!!!!!

 

[LACHAMP46]

Draft Focus: Rams need big play threat badly, WR on radar Curtis Samuel in 2nd RD ' also interest in Gerett Bolles (OL) FA Focus: Another team looking for WR help , DeSean Jackson who's from LA also slight interest in Terrelle Pryor Trade Focus: Trumaine Johnson widely available and Rams want 2nd rd pick and possibly another pick later in draft. Several teams involved (Updated Teams Below) - See more at: http://ibnsportswrap.com/nflRumors.php#sthash.1y2HzG4S.dpuf

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[Elmgrovegnome]

If he plays bad then he will get paid less.It will work it's self out . The Rams needed to lock either Johnson or JJ up.
It is what it is.Now The Rams need to lock Aaron Donald up.
Everyone wants to bag on Barron , but he played better than Tru last season.

Last year we all thought JJ's contract was too high. It's already looking like it will be surpassed. The biggest contract is never more than one year old. Demoff will front load whatever contracts he doles out anyway so getting out from under them is never a problem.

Tru played a different position than Barron. I don't see anyone bagging on Barron either. Sure Tru played better in 2015'. For some reason Williams had him playing way off the receivers last season. Is that because of an overall weakness in the DBs after losing JJ? Or maybe he was slowed by injury.

Offering to trade Trumaine could be a lot of things.

He's not worth the money
There's another FA corner that they think is worth the money
Phillips doesn't think he is a good fit for his defense
They are planning on drafting some cheap corners
Etc...

 

[DaveFan'51]

Actually...I'm relieved to hear this...That contract is....handcuffing to say the least.

Snead and Kevin D. going through ROD and answering my prayers!

I was thinking either
McSnead or SncVay.....stole that from 3K

Not good....I feel ya...but I'm good with those safeties...Esp. if you add Barron. Add some nice rookies in there...it'll look better.

I'm hearing Bouye excelled last year in a Wade Phillips-type defense in Houston....Came outta nowhere...UDFA...

Agreed to some extent. If we can adequately replace these players...esp. if they didn't fit the new system anyway, it should be addition by subtraction.

This is a new NFL....more ability to move...teams turn over rather regularly now.

I can't believe some of you guys are upset? I'm only ticked cause Cleveland isn't all over this deal...LOLOLOLOLOLOL

If anyone can afford the trade it's Cleveland. They have 100 mil in cap space and multiple picks in the 1st and 2nd round. The should jump on the deal!! I wonder what Williams is telling them!!

 

[SteezyEndo]

Not really, because AD would have more suitors and it would take time to sort thru the offers. What's everybody's rush to get this done? More teams involved and more offers is just going to drive up our return. The off season is more than a couple days long

Very Tru. (No pun intended)

 

[So Ram]

Last year we all thought JJ's contract was too high. It's already looking like it will be surpassed. The biggest contract is never more than one year old. Demoff will front load whatever contracts he doles out anyway so getting out from under them is never a problem.

Tru played a different position than Barron. I don't see anyone bagging on Barron either. Sure Tru played better in 2015'. For some reason Williams had him playing way off the receivers last season. Is that because of an overall weakness in the DBs after losing JJ? Or maybe he was slowed by injury.

Offering to trade Trumaine could be a lot of things.

He's not worth the money
There's another FA corner that they think is worth the money
Phillips doesn't think he is a good fit for his defense
They are planning on drafting some cheap corners
Etc...

I'm all for trading Tru . I think it would help The Rams with salary cap.
--Looking back at The salary cap & JJ
The Rams thought they had him locked up. They needed to play there hand better. JJ would have been better to franchise . Sign Tru to the long term contract . Then The Rams would have bought players signed right now .

 

[KOWALSKI]

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/n...urrounding-rams-trumaine-johnson-dont-add-up/

what a surprise...

 

[Elmgrovegnome]

I'm all for trading Tru . I think it would help The Rams with salary cap.
--Looking back at The salary cap & JJ
The Rams thought they had him locked up. They needed to play there hand better. JJ would have been better to franchise . Sign Tru to the long term contract . Then The Rams would have bought players signed right now .

Trumaine is more of a zone CB. Phillips prefers press CBs. It could be that after watching the CBs at the combine they are confident that they can find a replacement easily.

 

[Elmgrovegnome]

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/n...urrounding-rams-trumaine-johnson-dont-add-up/

what a surprise...

They want the pick now. I think even if it is a third round pick they will take it. They are probably holding out for a second with change of something. Tru has value to a team that plays zone. The Rams apparently thought that he had more trade value than he actually does. This may be a calculated risk that doesn't pan out and the Rams will be on the hook to overpay a guy that isn't a great fit for their new defense.

I was not excited about brining in a 3/4 DC. I know Phillips has a good reputation but the defense was not the problem and did not require any changing. By switching defenses it suddenly requires changes, which adds to the length of the rebuild. Do the Rams have any corners at all that excel in press coverage? No, so they lack Linebackers and Corners now. That is at least 5 players that need to be added that wouldn't have if they didn't change the defense.

 

[jap]

They want the pick now. I think even if it is a third round pick they will take it. They are probably holding out for a second with change of something. Tru has value to a team that plays zone. The Rams apparently thought that he had more trade value than he actually does. This may be a calculated risk that doesn't pan out and the Rams will be on the hook to overpay a guy that isn't a great fit for their new defense.

I was not excited about brining in a 3/4 DC. I know Phillips has a good reputation but the defense was not the problem and did not require any changing. By switching defenses it suddenly requires changes, which adds to the length of the rebuild. Do the Rams have any corners at all that excel in press coverage? No, so they lack Linebackers and Corners now. That is at least 5 players that need to be added that wouldn't have if they didn't change the defense.

You dare to question the defensive musings of the SonOfBum? :lifting::wabbit::double::shooting::seizure:

 

[Ram65]

But you were saying that the reason the Rams played this card is because he doesn't fit in Wade's defense. So now we are paying a guy who doesn't fit 16.7 mill? Yeah that wouldn't be good.
Of course I don't think this is by design at all, I don't think the Rams tagged him just to trade him

I think the Rams did tag him to trade him. It makes sense because they can't trade him if he signed a long term deal with them. I think the Rams may have decided he isn't a fit or they can't agree on a contract. Either way Rams can ask high and settle lower on a deal. That way they get something back for Tru. It has to benefit Tru with a big time deal and and place he wouldn't mind play at.

 

[Merlin]

Unless they don't trade him and the Rams are stuck with that albatross of a cap hit
If this was by design and they cant pull off a trade then its a total failure

I think that in order to do what the Rams are doing, they had to agree internally that paying him the one year contract was acceptable.

Now some here are going to disagree with it, but I feel pretty confident that Phillips gave the front office a fair take on Tru and what his expectations of him were this year, i.e. if he sticks around I am confident he'll play very well under Wade. From there, they are handling this thing just fine, taking offers on a big, rangy CB who isn't elite but is in that next group down and who might be capable of raising his game still.

Either way the Rams win. If he stays around he will probably have his best season under Wade. If he goes and the Rams manage to get a round 2 pick for him in this particular draft, it's like a first round pick in most others so compensation I would say was very good for a guy they couldn't get locked down long term.

IMO let's wait and see how it plays out.

 

[Faceplant]

Yep. I forgot to mention that Twin Peaks is also damn good.

And coming back this spring!!!!

 

[dieterbrock]

I think the Rams did tag him to trade him. It makes sense because they can't trade him if he signed a long term deal with them. I think the Rams may have decided he isn't a fit or they can't agree on a contract. Either way Rams can ask high and settle lower on a deal. That way they get something back for Tru. It has to benefit Tru with a big time deal and and place he wouldn't mind play at.

If they tagged him with intention of trading him, and they are unable to trade him, its a blunder
I think the Rams are much smarter than that. I truly believe they like him and hope they can sign him long term but when the phone started ringing, they listened. As they should.
But if they intentionally tagged him so they could trade him, and are unable to do so? That's a gaff. Now they are stuck with a guy who's eating up their cap room and who they weren't committed to.

Either way the Rams win. If he stays around he will probably have his best season under Wade.

I believe he will play great under Wade as well but cant imagine what his price tag will be then coming off 31 mil for 2 years. Rams wont be able to tag him again (would cost 24 mill +) and would only be able to compete for his services

 

[dieterbrock]

They want the pick now. I think even if it is a third round pick they will take it. .

If they want to trade him, take what they could get.
Had they not tagged him, and he signed elsewhere they would have that 16.7 additional cap room to spend. In all likelihood, the players they signed would wash with his loss and they wouldn't get compensation