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And Riddick did Not say 'in his first year' either.From what I've seen and read he didn't say rookie All-Pro
And Riddick did Not say 'in his first year' either.From what I've seen and read he didn't say rookie All-Pro
See @OldSchool ... THIS is outlandish!Dual Kams?
I like it.
I am a Ram fan to the core, but let's be realistic.This Kam is a turnover machine and an excellent timing blitzer. He's starting.
How hard is it to beat out Yeast and those other names? None of these guys seem to be NFL starting material.It's a bit outlandish. He's a third-round rookie, and he still has to beat out a fair few younger safeties (Curl, Lake, Yeast, Taylor, Logan, McCullough, Ingle).
I think he could be a solid starter, but an All-Pro in his first year? I doubt it.
Maybe you could just be landish sometimes?Didn't think it was outlandish ... thought it was interesting.
Outlandish is a funny word.
I am a Ram fan to the core, but let's be realistic.
Kam Kitchens was seen as the #1 safety coming out in 2024 - 10 months ago.
That's because he had a real good year in 2022.
Then came the 2023season, the Senior Bowl, the combine/pro days.
In 2023, he allowed 28 of the 34 passes into his coverage to be completed (82%). That ranked 104 out of 107 regular D1 safeties - PFF.
He allowed 472 yards passing. That was 97th out of 107 regular D1 safeties - PFF.
He allowed 4 TDs. That was 93rd out of 107 regular D1 safeties - PFF.
That is a passer rating allowed of 118.4, 90th out of 107 regular D1 safeties - PFF.
What he had and what kept his passer rating from being much worse were 5 interceptions.
In the games I looked at, he was very good at playing deep and reacting aggressively to poorly thrown passes.
At the Senior Bowl he was beaten regularly by WRs - this is my judgment only - from watching.
Granted he was asked to cover some pretty good WRs, but it looked like a mismatch most of the time.
When he ran at the combine, we began to see why - 4.65 on the 40 yard dash.
Later, at his pro day, he ran 4.62. This was 27th out of 29 safties, Kenny Logan Jr (who the Rams also signed) being the slowest.
I don't know anything about Kam Kinchens and as a Ram fan and human being, I wish him all the best, but I think some of the comments on this thread are made without looking at facts.
Either Kitchens is slow afoot and it will cause him to have difficulty when he is asked cover top NFL TEs/WRs, or (hopefully) Rams had info that he played hurt last year and will be healed and ready to go come the start of the season.
This years FA signing from WashingtonWho is this Curl guy? Did I miss something?
~ArkyRamsFan~
Kinchens is slow afoot but from everything I've read, he has great instincts. That can often make up for being slow.I am a Ram fan to the core, but let's be realistic.
Kam Kitchens was seen as the #1 safety coming out in 2024 - 10 months ago.
That's because he had a real good year in 2022.
Then came the 2023season, the Senior Bowl, the combine/pro days.
In 2023, he allowed 28 of the 34 passes into his coverage to be completed (82%). That ranked 104 out of 107 regular D1 safeties - PFF.
He allowed 472 yards passing. That was 97th out of 107 regular D1 safeties - PFF.
He allowed 4 TDs. That was 93rd out of 107 regular D1 safeties - PFF.
That is a passer rating allowed of 118.4, 90th out of 107 regular D1 safeties - PFF.
What he had and what kept his passer rating from being much worse were 5 interceptions.
In the games I looked at, he was very good at playing deep and reacting aggressively to poorly thrown passes.
At the Senior Bowl he was beaten regularly by WRs - this is my judgment only - from watching.
Granted he was asked to cover some pretty good WRs, but it looked like a mismatch most of the time.
When he ran at the combine, we began to see why - 4.65 on the 40 yard dash.
Later, at his pro day, he ran 4.62. This was 27th out of 29 safties, Kenny Logan Jr (who the Rams also signed) being the slowest.
I don't know anything about Kam Kinchens and as a Ram fan and human being, I wish him all the best, but I think some of the comments on this thread are made without looking at facts.
Either Kitchens is slow afoot and it will cause him to have difficulty when he is asked cover top NFL TEs/WRs, or (hopefully) Rams had info that he played hurt last year and will be healed and ready to go come the start of the season.
As to your point about Kinchens' coverage skills, it's a good thing they won't be asking him to play CB and cover WRs often. They'll likely have him in a deep safety role which he excels at.
I believe the key is to find out what changed from 2022 to 2023.I am a Ram fan to the core, but let's be realistic.
Kam Kitchens was seen as the #1 safety coming out in 2024 - 10 months ago.
That's because he had a real good year in 2022.
Then came the 2023season, the Senior Bowl, the combine/pro days.
In 2023, he allowed 28 of the 34 passes into his coverage to be completed (82%). That ranked 104 out of 107 regular D1 safeties - PFF.
He allowed 472 yards passing. That was 97th out of 107 regular D1 safeties - PFF.
He allowed 4 TDs. That was 93rd out of 107 regular D1 safeties - PFF.
That is a passer rating allowed of 118.4, 90th out of 107 regular D1 safeties - PFF.
What he had and what kept his passer rating from being much worse were 5 interceptions.
In the games I looked at, he was very good at playing deep and reacting aggressively to poorly thrown passes.
At the Senior Bowl he was beaten regularly by WRs - this is my judgment only - from watching.
Granted he was asked to cover some pretty good WRs, but it looked like a mismatch most of the time.
When he ran at the combine, we began to see why - 4.65 on the 40 yard dash.
Later, at his pro day, he ran 4.62. This was 27th out of 29 safties, Kenny Logan Jr (who the Rams also signed) being the slowest.
I don't know anything about Kam Kinchens and as a Ram fan and human being, I wish him all the best, but I think some of the comments on this thread are made without looking at facts.
Either Kitchens is slow afoot and it will cause him to have difficulty when he is asked cover top NFL TEs/WRs, or (hopefully) Rams had info that he played hurt last year and will be healed and ready to go come the start of the season.
Not to mention that the Rams Scouts have been really good at finding underrated defensive backs, particularly Safeties, in the middle to late rounds.Sounds like a good value pick. More competition in the DB room. Could beat someone out or be a good teams player???