Rams RB Kyren Williams: 'I don't feel like I've touched my peak yet' coming off back-to-back 1,000-yard seasons

[Elmgrovegnome]

I think I posted this before, there’s a middle ground opinion on Kyren and that’s where I sit.

I’m glad he stabilized the position for us and he does some things really well, but we can and should be looking at finding an elite guy there that can take over games when other shit isn’t working.

This is a Sean McVay offense after all. Ya know?

Except McVay always seems to prefer guys just like Kyren. How many 5’-9” 200lb backs take over games? I don’t imagine it’s a long list. Gurley was 6’ 224 lbs, and drafted early in round 1. How long will it be until the Rams have a shot at that type of RB again? Then you also have the character fit that they seem to precisely weigh in selecting players. It may be a while until we see a back on the Rams that can take over a game.

I hope, Jarquez Hunter can succeed, but there’s a good chance he’s not any better than Kyren, or even worse. To use breakaway speed, there has to be some big holes to run through. I don’t always see that from the Rams Oline. I do like this line. I think it’s much better than recent assemblages. But Kyren works for every yard he gets.

 

[Merlin]

Well once again this keeps coming back to the fact he has to fix those fumbles. Period. So if the Rams pay him before he demonstrates he can do that, they may regret it.

Make him show you this season that he can hold onto the lead role and not cough up the rock. If we get to December and that is still true, and you feel like he's still an important piece of the future strategy, then get him done. But I would not pay him until he shows me he can fix that problem.

 

[El Chapo Jr]

I think I posted this before, there’s a middle ground opinion on Kyren and that’s where I sit.

I’m glad he stabilized the position for us and he does some things really well, but we can and should be looking at finding an elite guy there that can take over games when other shit isn’t working.

This is a Sean McVay offense after all. Ya know?

Definitely should keep drafting RBs and only sign one to a 2nd contract if they are Gurley/Faulk type special as most running backs (historically) aren't worth a 2nd contract.

 

[Elmgrovegnome]

Well once again this keeps coming back to the fact he has to fix those fumbles. Period. So if the Rams pay him before he demonstrates he can do that, they may regret it.

Make him show you this season that he can hold onto the lead role and not cough up the rock. If we get to December and that is still true, and you feel like he's still an important piece of the future strategy, then get him done. But I would not pay him until he shows me he can fix that problem.

Obviously, it depends on how much money, but also if Corum or Hunter can produce as well as Kyren. If neither proves that this year, the price may have just gone up, or first round RB is “back on the menu boys”

 

[OldSchool]

I think I posted this before, there’s a middle ground opinion on Kyren and that’s where I sit.

I’m glad he stabilized the position for us and he does some things really well, but we can and should be looking at finding an elite guy there that can take over games when other shit isn’t working.

This is a Sean McVay offense after all. Ya know?

No middle ground allowed.
No pointing out things he can't do.

Only sunshines and unicorn parts allowed. I'm honestly surprised how hurt some people are because those stats were posted. We all know what Kyren is and what he isn't. While those stats are cherry picked you only have to apply a little thought to realize what he is good at. I don't get the anger especially since everyone here knowns what Kyren is. Anybody wanting a change at RB says he's a good back, they just want some of what that tweet says he isn't.

 

[Elmgrovegnome]

No middle ground allowed.
No pointing out things he can't do.

Only sunshines and unicorn parts allowed. I'm honestly surprised how hurt some people are because those stats were posted. We all know what Kyren is and what he isn't. While those stats are cherry picked you only have to apply a little thought to realize what he is good at. I don't get the anger especially since everyone here knowns what Kyren is. Anybody wanting a change at RB says he's a good back, they just want some of what that tweet says he isn't.

Nah, there has been plenty of derision thrown Kyren’s way on RoD, over the winter. Some on this forum really seem to think he isn’t good at all. They tend to only look at the negatives.

 

[OldSchool]

Nah, there has been plenty of derision thrown Kyren’s way on RoD, over the winter. Some on this forum really seem to think he isn’t good at all. They tend to only look at the negatives.

Pointing out that a guy is a good back but has limitations is not throwing anything at the guy it's honest assessment of his abilities. Again he's good but there are things he is not. That simple statement throws some people into a frenzy. And as long as people keep over reacting this will keep happening.

 

[RamFan503]

Pointing out that a guy is a good back but has limitations is not throwing anything at the guy it's honest assessment of his abilities. Again he's good but there are things he is not. That simple statement throws some people into a frenzy. And as long as people keep over reacting this will keep happening.

I think it’s more that it was just lazy stat manipulation in order to push a narrative. We all know Kyren’s limitations. We should, of course, also know his strengths. It seems pretty disingenuous to say, “take away his red zone plays and….” when that truly is where he is elite. The dude targets that end line like few in the game.

I doubt there will ever be a time when some lazy douche throws out a stat to make one of our players look pedestrian that doesn’t receive the ire of this fan base. At least I hope I never see that time.

 

[dang]

No middle ground allowed.
No pointing out things he can't do.

Only sunshines and unicorn parts allowed. I'm honestly surprised how hurt some people are because those stats were posted. We all know what Kyren is and what he isn't. While those stats are cherry picked you only have to apply a little thought to realize what he is good at. I don't get the anger especially since everyone here knowns what Kyren is. Anybody wanting a change at RB says he's a good back, they just want some of what that tweet says

Nah, there has been plenty of derision thrown Kyren’s way on RoD, over the winter. Some on this forum really seem to think he isn’t good at all. They tend to only look at the negatives.

Facts are facts. He’s a top 10 NFL RB until proven otherwise….mic drop!!

 

[OldSchool]

I think it’s more that it was just lazy stat manipulation in order to push a narrative. We all know Kyren’s limitations. We should, of course, also know his strengths. It seems pretty disingenuous to say, “take away his red zone plays and….” when that truly is where he is elite. The dude targets that end line like few in the game.

I doubt there will ever be a time when some lazy douche throws out a stat to make one of our players look pedestrian that doesn’t receive the ire of this fan base. At least I hope I never see that time.

I don't pretend to know that guys motivation. That tweet of his was the first thing I've seen from him in ages I just avoid his site and him it's terrible.

I agree with your last sentiment but we all see in this thread the wagons circled yet again around a player that pretty much everybody thinks is a good player.

 

[RamFan503]

the wagons circled yet again around a player that pretty much everybody thinks is a good player.

As well they should be IMO.

 

[OldSchool]

As well they should be IMO.

My point is there's no need we all agree he's good. Take it to Blaine on his shit site or his X posts.

 

[RamFan503]

My point is there's no need we all agree he's good. Take it to Blaine on his shit site or his X posts.

Nah. Don’t care about him. I was replying to someone who posted the lame ass lazy tweet as some sort of evidence. I’m fine if we don’t extend KW right now. If he continues to ball and even if our other backs pan out, I’m also fine if they extend him. I just don’t think backs like KW are waiting to fall from the trees.

It’s funny because we’ve even seen someone post stats that say KW is a poor pass blocker. I think we all should know that’s some real bullshit right there.

In essence it’s no big deal that this thread has a bunch of fans jumping to KWs defense when bogus stats get brought up or for whatever reason. Most of us (you included) know he’s a good back and more importantly, he’s OUR good back.

I wouldn’t say he’s great. Damn good is pretty safe IMO. But he’s truly elite at this time and place when it comes to the goal line and he’s possibly the best pass blocking back we’ve had since Marshall.

The dude gets yards a different way. I’m not sure that’s a knock. It’s great and all having a back that can spring it and take it to the house on the way to 1000+ yards. But KW gets those same yards by being consistent and grinding defenses down.

 

[kmramsfan]

Not a Blaine fan or a fan of his site. That site shows both what he's very good at and what he's very limited at. People will take what they want from those stats.

It was tolerable prior to vox taking over, I thought. Now it's a bunch of 'what if" scenarios, posing as a story.
I get enough of those from my lovely wife.

 

[Faceplant]

I would like to see our OL run blocking ranks. Both individually and as a unit. JHunt could be another Darrell Henderson, or he may be the change up home run hitter the Rams need. Can't wait to see how it plays out. Really hope Corum earns some quality touches as well.

Until then, I'm super glad we have KWill in the backfield. This team can't get out of 1st gear when he's not on the field.

 

[dieterbrock]

My point is there's no need we all agree he's good. Take it to Blaine on his shit site or his X posts.

So a Rams Fan website isnt the place to defend a Rams player? Or to appreciate him?
Weird...

 

[Mojo Ram]

Except McVay always seems to prefer guys just like Kyren.

Yeah the evidence does appear to bear this out. I do wonder if McVay would even be interested in pulling the trigger on a RB high in the draft who brings elite size, speed and skills.

I feel like he looks at WR’s and even TE’s with a different lense in terms of draft priority.

He’s drafting and bringing in RB’s often, but they all seem to be the same guy, relatively.

 

[PARAM]

Pointing out that a guy is a good back but has limitations is not throwing anything at the guy it's honest assessment of his abilities. Again he's good but there are things he is not. That simple statement throws some people into a frenzy. And as long as people keep over reacting this will keep happening.

Depends on the manor in which it's done. There's a fellow on another site who believes Kyren has a fumbling problem (true); that he's not a home run hitter (true) and that not only should the Rams not extend him, but trade him (no way). He has claimed it's the right time because his "value is high". If his value is so high, why TF would the Rams trade him? IMHO, the guy might in fact be Blaine Grisak under a different name because BG basically manipulated those stats to show he's not a "home run hitter" or perhaps, something worse (trade bait?).

Kyren does many things well. He has a nose for the goal line. 31 TDs the last 2 years (26 rushing, 5 receiving). He's damn good in short yardage......40 carries on 3 & 1-3, 34 first downs, 10 carries on 4th and 1-3, 8 first downs the last 2 years (84%)...some of that obviously is on the goal line. He's damn good at pass pro. And he's a decent receiver.

He has a fumbling problem and he's not a breakaway runner. 19 runs of 10 yards + last year with longs of 30 and 27. But first downs and big runs don't win games. TDs do. Correct the fumbling issues and we have a damn good (affordable) running back.

 

[Soul Surfer]

He’s drafting and bringing in RB’s often, but they all seem to be the same guy, relatively.

Tre Mason ?!?

I heard he started a new band with Greg Robinson;

The Spice Boys.

 

[PARAM]

He’s drafting and bringing in RB’s often, but they all seem to be the same guy, relatively.

I think Hunter may be different than the previous mold. Same size but much more giddyup.