Rams RB Kyren Williams: 'I don't feel like I've touched my peak yet' coming off back-to-back 1,000-yard seasons

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pvtdragon39

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If your talking about fumbles, I definitely care.
6 fumbles including 1 in the playoffs is far to many
for my liking.
If it was just a few, like you said . i would agree.
But 6?
If you hate Kyren for Fumbling 6 times, then you should hate SJax,Dickerson, McCutcheon, Tyler,Faulk, Gurley and all of our former RBs all the same! Simple as that. Kyren gets so much hate for nothing. Through 2 seasons, hes killing Most of our RB legends stats through thier first 2 seasons as starter. Kyren is a Brusier, and has great vision. By these numbers, Kyren has nothing to Worry about, and just to focus.

Single Season Rams Fumbles records: These are Players Worst Fumbling seasons as a Ram to Compare!

Dickerson-84' = 14 fumbles | 379 att | 1 per 27.07 carries
Dickerson-83' = 13 Fumbles | 390 att | 1 Per 30.00 Carries
Dickerson-86 = 12 Fumbles | 404 att | 1 Per 33.66 Carries
W Tyler - 81" = 11 Fumbles | 260 att | 1 per 23.63
Dickerson- 85' = 10 Fumbles |292 Att | 1 Per 29.20
L McCutcheon-76' = 10 Fumbles| 291 att | 1 per 29.10
W Tyler - 82' = 10 Fumbles | 137 att | 1 per 13.7 Carries

Many more seasons Similar by these 3 players.

Steven Jax - 08' = 5 Fumbles| 253 att | 1 per 50.6 Carries
Steven Jax- 07 = 5 Fumbles | 237 att | 1 Per 47.4 carries

Todd Gurley - 17'= 5 fumbles| 279 att| 1 per 55.8 Carries

Marshall Faulk - 02' = 4 Fumbles| 212| 1 Per 53 Carries

Greg Bell - 89' = 7 Fumbles| 272 att | 1 per 38.8 carries


Kyren Williams - 24' = 5 Fumbles | 316 att | 1 per 63.2 carries
Kyren Williams- 23' = 2 Fumbles | 228| 1 per 114 Carries
 

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If you hate Kyren for Fumbling 6 times, then you should hate SJax,Dickerson, McCutcheon, Tyler,Faulk, Gurley and all of our former RBs all the same! Simple as that. Kyren gets so much hate for nothing. Through 2 seasons, hes killing Most of our RB legends stats through thier first 2 seasons as starter. Kyren is a Brusier, and has great vision. By these numbers, Kyren has nothing to Worry about, and just to focus.

Single Season Rams Fumbles records: These are Players Worst Fumbling seasons as a Ram to Compare!

Dickerson-84' = 14 fumbles | 379 att | 1 per 27.07 carries
Dickerson-83' = 13 Fumbles | 390 att | 1 Per 30.00 Carries
Dickerson-86 = 12 Fumbles | 404 att | 1 Per 33.66 Carries
W Tyler - 81" = 11 Fumbles | 260 att | 1 per 23.63
Dickerson- 85' = 10 Fumbles |292 Att | 1 Per 29.20
L McCutcheon-76' = 10 Fumbles| 291 att | 1 per 29.10
W Tyler - 82' = 10 Fumbles | 137 att | 1 per 13.7 Carries

Many more seasons Similar by these 3 players.

Steven Jax - 08' = 5 Fumbles| 253 att | 1 per 50.6 Carries
Steven Jax- 07 = 5 Fumbles | 237 att | 1 Per 47.4 carries

Todd Gurley - 17'= 5 fumbles| 279 att| 1 per 55.8 Carries

Marshall Faulk - 02' = 4 Fumbles| 212| 1 Per 53 Carries

Greg Bell - 89' = 7 Fumbles| 272 att | 1 per 38.8 carries


Kyren Williams - 24' = 5 Fumbles | 316 att | 1 per 63.2 carries
Kyren Williams- 23' = 2 Fumbles | 228| 1 per 114 Carries
Fair comparison. Its the combination of untimely fumbles AND a lack of explosive runs that is the root cause for the negativity directed towards KWill. Im a big fan of a dual threat backfield so hoping we get some juice from Corum or Hunter this year - but keep KWill. Thx for sharing.
 

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If you hate Kyren for Fumbling 6 times, then you should hate SJax,Dickerson, McCutcheon, Tyler,Faulk, Gurley and all of our former RBs all the same! Simple as that. Kyren gets so much hate for nothing. Through 2 seasons, hes killing Most of our RB legends stats through thier first 2 seasons as starter. Kyren is a Brusier, and has great vision. By these numbers, Kyren has nothing to Worry about, and just to focus.

Single Season Rams Fumbles records: These are Players Worst Fumbling seasons as a Ram to Compare!

Dickerson-84' = 14 fumbles | 379 att | 1 per 27.07 carries
Dickerson-83' = 13 Fumbles | 390 att | 1 Per 30.00 Carries
Dickerson-86 = 12 Fumbles | 404 att | 1 Per 33.66 Carries
W Tyler - 81" = 11 Fumbles | 260 att | 1 per 23.63
Dickerson- 85' = 10 Fumbles |292 Att | 1 Per 29.20
L McCutcheon-76' = 10 Fumbles| 291 att | 1 per 29.10
W Tyler - 82' = 10 Fumbles | 137 att | 1 per 13.7 Carries

Many more seasons Similar by these 3 players.

Steven Jax - 08' = 5 Fumbles| 253 att | 1 per 50.6 Carries
Steven Jax- 07 = 5 Fumbles | 237 att | 1 Per 47.4 carries

Todd Gurley - 17'= 5 fumbles| 279 att| 1 per 55.8 Carries

Marshall Faulk - 02' = 4 Fumbles| 212| 1 Per 53 Carries

Greg Bell - 89' = 7 Fumbles| 272 att | 1 per 38.8 carries


Kyren Williams - 24' = 5 Fumbles | 316 att | 1 per 63.2 carries
Kyren Williams- 23' = 2 Fumbles | 228| 1 per 114 Carries
I like Kyren. I wish a couple of his fumbles didn’t happen at such inopportune times but he’s a hell of a back. He lacks the break away speed as we all know. But he finds yards that don’t seem to be there and is a demon near the goal line.

Ideally, Hunter gets some play and can break a few. Corum so far seems to be a lesser version of KW but it’s too early to tell. It would be a pretty formidable backfield if those three prove out this season.

I don’t think they drafted Hunter to sit and wait. I really want him in on early downs if he’s up to the task. We really need someone back there that can take advantage of some of those holes our line produced last year and likely will again this season. That alone will make our offense much more unpredictable and something to be feared.

All that said, I think KW is in a prove it year. He’s done a great job but needs to take on a lesser role on early downs if we’re going to be explosive again.

I’m thinking get Hunter some early play on 1st and 2nd downs with Corum spelling he and KW.

Unfortunately, it seems that a lot of RBs need a fair number of reps to really get clicking. It’s going to be another tough job for McVay and our OC.

I like our defense. And if they have an offense that can get a fair number of chunk plays and some easy TDs, watch the fuck out!
 

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Fair comparison. Its the combination of untimely fumbles AND a lack of explosive runs that is the root cause for the negativity directed towards KWill. Im a big fan of a dual threat backfield so hoping we get some juice from Corum or Hunter this year - but keep KWill. Thx for sharing.
Let Kyren beat them to a pulp, then unleash hunter to run all over them in a change of pace. Im all for that!

Let Hunter and Corum take an entire Quarter from Kyren to give him a breather! I think thats 80% of his issue. We dont have a proper back-up that can do anything. Not saying Corum cant, but everytime he was out there he got shut down or didnt go anywhere and Kyren was right back in.
 

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When it comes to fumbles and KW, timing is everything.
I know my memory isn’t what it used to be, but I can’t remember any fumbles as significant as the playoff ones by KW vs the eagles and bucs—except the one by Kupp in the same game (bucs).

I like KW and think he’s one of the tougher, talented RBs in the league. He just needs to eliminate those crunch time errors.
 

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For anyone taking offense to breaking down film and finding mistakes,
Please know and realize just how important Kyren is to the Rams.
and I am a fan too.

It's offseason I'm bored and I watch a lot of Baldy clips.

I am hoping we can employ a RB committee this year
Kyren does not have the body to take 316 carries 2 yrs in a row.

I have seen what over using a player can do to a body.
I will always hold in high honor the triple crown season Kupp had,
But it took a toll on Kupp and he never really was the same after that.
I don't want kyren or any other player following the same path.
McVay needs 3 backs who can share the load and extend their Careers


This the fumble by Kyren in Playoffs.
If this is any indication of why he struggled with fumbles,
It's just a matter of the way he is carrying the ball.

Watch how low kyren is carrying the ball and in snow , no less.
If he is carrying the ball high and tight there is no fumble.

And both hands should be on the ball the second you sense or
feel contact from opposing D, Especially on inside runs.


View: https://x.com/BaldyNFL/status/1881106701631488219
 

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This the fumble by Kyren in Playoffs.
If this is any indication of why he struggled with fumbles,
It's just a matter of the way he is carrying the ball.

Watch how low kyren is carrying the ball and in snow , no less.
If he is carrying the ball high and tight there is no fumble.
That was one of his worst fumbles. Basic lack of a strong tuck right there. If that ball's on his rib high and tight he's fine.

But at this point Kyren is auditioning for the league, to show prospective teams in FA that he can keep the handle on the rock. Because he's in a FA season. He plays RB which is not a coveted position. And the Rams are not going to pay him big money.

Oh and if they do, they will regret it. Not because Kyren's a bad RB, but because unless he signs for a team discount they don't need to be locking up money on a RB who is limited to short runs and can't be trusted to hold onto the ball. And because in this league the quickest fucking way to lose is put the ball on the ground. Plain and simple that is page one from the recipe of how to lose a game.

And lastly the reason it will be a mistake is because most of his loose handles on the ball are due to him trying to stay up on his feet, when he is off balance and fighting for yards. Which is a big part of his game. I don't see that changing. Even if he manages to reduce the events this season once we pay him that shit will return because I don't see him fixing his focus on the tuck when he's fighting for those extra yards.

Best case scenario is he leads our trio this year in a RBBC look and we win a Super Bowl and he sails off into the sunset to get paid by another team.
 

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If you hate Kyren for Fumbling 6 times, then you should hate SJax,Dickerson, McCutcheon, Tyler,Faulk, Gurley and all of our former RBs all the same! Simple as that. Kyren gets so much hate for nothing. Through 2 seasons, hes killing Most of our RB legends stats through thier first 2 seasons as starter. Kyren is a Brusier, and has great vision. By these numbers, Kyren has nothing to Worry about, and just to focus.

Single Season Rams Fumbles records: These are Players Worst Fumbling seasons as a Ram to Compare!

Dickerson-84' = 14 fumbles | 379 att | 1 per 27.07 carries
Dickerson-83' = 13 Fumbles | 390 att | 1 Per 30.00 Carries
Dickerson-86 = 12 Fumbles | 404 att | 1 Per 33.66 Carries
W Tyler - 81" = 11 Fumbles | 260 att | 1 per 23.63
Dickerson- 85' = 10 Fumbles |292 Att | 1 Per 29.20
L McCutcheon-76' = 10 Fumbles| 291 att | 1 per 29.10
W Tyler - 82' = 10 Fumbles | 137 att | 1 per 13.7 Carries

Many more seasons Similar by these 3 players.

Steven Jax - 08' = 5 Fumbles| 253 att | 1 per 50.6 Carries
Steven Jax- 07 = 5 Fumbles | 237 att | 1 Per 47.4 carries

Todd Gurley - 17'= 5 fumbles| 279 att| 1 per 55.8 Carries

Marshall Faulk - 02' = 4 Fumbles| 212| 1 Per 53 Carries

Greg Bell - 89' = 7 Fumbles| 272 att | 1 per 38.8 carries


Kyren Williams - 24' = 5 Fumbles | 316 att | 1 per 63.2 carries
Kyren Williams- 23' = 2 Fumbles | 228| 1 per 114 Carries
Brilliant work. It kind of pops that bubble, heh! The offense currently goes through Kyren for good reason

I am curious, how many explosive runs did Kyren have the previous year? I ask because there seemed to be a number of highlight real plays, which ultimately had him voted to the pro-bowl and on the all pro squad

Perhaps, and I do not know the figures, he faced more 8 man boxes in 2024? If so, he still looked great considering
 

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I am curious, how many explosive runs did Kyren have the previous year? I ask because there seemed to be a number of highlight real plays, which ultimately had him voted to the pro-bowl and on the all pro squad
The "not an explosive runner" is a narrative that keeps getting regurgitated. It's not entirely true, he is quite explosive in short bursts & cuts. He does not have breakaway speed.
Alas, he has helped cure what was the Achilles heal of the McVay Rams, short yardage and red zone, and is a 1st down and TD machine.
 

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That was one of his worst fumbles. Basic lack of a strong tuck right there. If that ball's on his rib high and tight he's fine.

But at this point Kyren is auditioning for the league, to show prospective teams in FA that he can keep the handle on the rock. Because he's in a FA season. He plays RB which is not a coveted position. And the Rams are not going to pay him big money.

Oh and if they do, they will regret it. Not because Kyren's a bad RB, but because unless he signs for a team discount they don't need to be locking up money on a RB who is limited to short runs and can't be trusted to hold onto the ball. And because in this league the quickest fucking way to lose is put the ball on the ground. Plain and simple that is page one from the recipe of how to lose a game.

And lastly the reason it will be a mistake is because most of his loose handles on the ball are due to him trying to stay up on his feet, when he is off balance and fighting for yards. Which is a big part of his game. I don't see that changing. Even if he manages to reduce the events this season once we pay him that shit will return because I don't see him fixing his focus on the tuck when he's fighting for those extra yards.

Best case scenario is he leads our trio this year in a RBBC look and we win a Super Bowl and he sails off into the sunset to get paid by another team.
If the Rams win the Super Bowl we may see more than one player move on. Rolling it back didn’t work out so well after the last SB win.

I think a lot of what happens to Kyren and his contract is dependent on what they see from other RBs on the roster. He was better than Corum last year. Maybe if Hunter looks good by the end of the season, then he can give them a reason to move on.