Rams RB Kyren Williams: 'I don't feel like I've touched my peak yet' coming off back-to-back 1,000-yard seasons

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Man! That’s the height of stat manipulation.

I have long been critical of the poor quality of Rams' coverage on the Turf Show Times; and have singled out Bret Stuter and Blaine Grisak as the most weak of its commentators. And, it's not because they are negative.

Even their positive material is very weak in my opinion. In their push for content, these guys will throw absolutely ANYTHING out there.
 

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Man! That’s the height of stat manipulation. I wonder how many very good players you could make look awful if you took out their major strength. If you took out Barclay’s break away runs - or even EDs, I wonder how pedestrian they would look.
I don't know if I'm reading this right but Pro Football Reference has Gurleys splits as 67 rushing TDs; 63 in the Red Zone. :explode1:

 

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Not a Blaine fan or a fan of his site. That site shows both what he's very good at and what he's very limited at. People will take what they want from those stats.
 

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The thing about Kyren, you just watch him & you know what he's good at. You don't need stats to tell you that he's an incredible grinder, the best I've ever seen at finding yards when you need them most, where most RB's I've ever seen lose them.
His YPC is deceiving, because for most RB's, it's an average of their runs: they'll have 4 or 5 negative runs per game, 10 runs in the 1-2 yard range, 5 in the 3 - 4 yard range, and then 2 (3 at the most) highlight-reel runs where they rip off 20 - 30 - 40 yard runs. Average them all together, and et voila, 4.7 YPC.
Kyren gets ACTUAL 4.7 YPC. Like, he can get 4.7 yards every time he touches the ball, & very rarely has negative runs -- or "highlight reel" runs. He just gets you yards. His average spread is like a few 1-2 yard plays, a few 10 - 15 yard plays, and the rest... 4.7. That's why, paired with a more explosive back, he's so deadly: in those situations you need those yards, he'll get 'em. 3rd & 3? 4th & 1? when the D KNOWS you're gonna run? no sweat.
But start the game off with a more explosive back, get to the redzone, & let KW take over. Run up the score & let KW take over.
It's why I'm excited to see him, BC & Hunter all on the field together.
 

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You know, :thinking:Blaine's got a point, set aside all the delicious tender meat, and baby backs are just a bunch of bone and Grisel I wouldn't feed my dog.
 

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What is Blaine's point? Kyren doesn't have breakaway speed? As has been pointed out, he's cherry picking stats to prove a point we all know anyway. Take a look at the top 18 running backs in rushing TDs. Just 11 reached double digits (and Kyren was #5 among them). Those 18 scored a combined total of 189 TDs with 156 of them coming in the red zone (82.5%). Another 23 came from inside the 50. That leaves 10 homeruns by all the running backs in the league over the entire 17 game season (and 4 of them belonged to Barkley). That 10 amounts to 5.3%. There was one 80 yard+ TD (Henry 87 yards). WTF is this assclown proving?
 

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I think I posted this before, there’s a middle ground opinion on Kyren and that’s where I sit.

I’m glad he stabilized the position for us and he does some things really well, but we can and should be looking at finding an elite guy there that can take over games when other shit isn’t working.

This is a Sean McVay offense after all. Ya know?
 

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I think I posted this before, there’s a middle ground opinion on Kyren and that’s where I sit.

I’m glad he stabilized the position for us and he does some things really well, but we can and should be looking at finding an elite guy there that can take over games when other shit isn’t working.

This is a Sean McVay offense after all. Ya know?
Great point. I'm excited to see what Hunter brings to the table; maybe he can grind AND give us some explosiveness?
 

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I think I posted this before, there’s a middle ground opinion on Kyren and that’s where I sit.

I’m glad he stabilized the position for us and he does some things really well, but we can and should be looking at finding an elite guy there that can take over games when other shit isn’t working.

This is a Sean McVay offense after all. Ya know?
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