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It's funny how no props, and actual negative reviews by many, to the defense, despite creating 5 turnovers, 2 td"s and several punts and sacks.
What team wouldn't look at those stats and think the defense had a very good night? Sure they gave up a ton of yards and points, TO AN AWESOME OFFENSE, but they also made many plays at critical times including 2 late picks to shut it down.
I hear about how mahomes "gave" the rams 21 points and just shake my head. That pick by Samson was a brilliant play that would make Lawrence Taylor and K Mack jealous.
He's fighting off the much larger tackle with his right while he makes an interception with his left, behind the line of scrimmage!! Then, he runs it in for a score while 2 chiefs try to tackle him! Are you FUCKING KIDDING ME?!
One of the most athletic plays in league history, and some asshole wants to dismiss it as a mistake by mahomes?
What team wouldn't look at those stats and think the defense had a very good night? Sure they gave up a ton of yards and points, TO AN AWESOME OFFENSE, but they also made many plays at critical times including 2 late picks to shut it down.
I hear about how mahomes "gave" the rams 21 points and just shake my head. That pick by Samson was a brilliant play that would make Lawrence Taylor and K Mack jealous.
He's fighting off the much larger tackle with his right while he makes an interception with his left, behind the line of scrimmage!! Then, he runs it in for a score while 2 chiefs try to tackle him! Are you FUCKING KIDDING ME?!
One of the most athletic plays in league history, and some asshole wants to dismiss it as a mistake by mahomes?
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https://www.si.com/nfl/2018/11/20/rams-chiefs-monday-night-football-los-angeles-wildfires-shooting
In a City Hurting After Tragedy, Rams-Chiefs Brought Something Extraordinary
MICHAEL MCKNIGHT
November 20, 2018
LOS ANGELES — The faint wisp of smoke that still hovered over Malibu, 30 miles from the Los Angeles Coliseum, provided the most obvious clue that Monday night’s Rams-Chiefs game would be different. The dozens of first responders hanging around the sideline before kickoff offered another hint. The bags under their eyes presented a third. Citizens of this city, especially its northwest corner, had been exhausted by the events of the previous twelve days. What they wanted—what everyone in L.A. needed—was for Monday night to feel normal.
Instead, they got something extraordinary.
One hundred and five combined points. More than 1,000 yards of offense. Thirteen total touchdowns. Most importantly, a win for the home team, against a worthy opponent—a victory marked, fittingly, by resilience.
It was the first time that two teams had scored 50 points each in an NFL game. But this and all of the other eye-popping football stats were meaningless compared to the most important numbers of the day. Against overwhelming odds, the Woolsey fire had been stopped short of burning 100,000 acres—the damage stood at 96,949 at day’s end—and was 94% contained. A week earlier, it had blackened 91,572 acres with only 20% containment. That comeback had been made possible by people like Ken Roberts.
A captain in the Ventura County Fire Dept., Roberts worked two straight days, with no sleep, in the aftermath of the Borderline Bar & Grill shooting, which claimed twelve lives on Nov. 7. When his work there was done, Roberts went straight to the front lines of the fires that had been sparked the day after the shooting. “Today was the first day I’ve been home,” he said just prior to Monday night’s kickoff. “I had just enough time to take a shower and fight traffic to get here.”
The aura inside the Coliseum on Monday night was not one of mourning. Not even during the national anthem, which was sung by the choir from Cal Lutheran University—site of the Rams’ practice facility, and alma mater of the late Justin Meek, who had been gunned down at Borderline and at one point sung bass in that choir.
What the Coliseum felt like was relief. The 95-year-old building felt bright and shiny and full of life—the Rams’ canary yellow ‘Color Rush’ uniforms didn’t hurt—offering a haven from the wanton death and destruction of the fortnight just passed.
The Rams had given discounted tickets to first responders earlier this season, Captain Stan Ziegler of the Ventura County Fire Dept., pointed out, “but tonight feels different.” And not just because first responders got into the Chiefs game for free. “We’re not used to having the spotlight on us,” Ziegler explained. “In fact, most of us run from attention. We’re just thankful for this chance to relax and enjoy an evening, away from the stress of fighting fire and helping evacuate people.”
Before the national anthem, Ziegler and Roberts unfurled a massive American flag with hundreds other first responders, including Michael Williams of Ventura County Fire Station #36. Williams had been off duty when he first spotted the Woolsey Fire. After quickly calculating its path, he told his neighbors in Oak Park to evacuate. Then Williams watched his own home, where he lives with his wife and children, vanish into ash. He hardly paused, continuing to fight the wind-driven blaze that threatened his neighbors’ houses. He saved most of them.
Sean M. Haffey/Getty Images
Monday night, Williams’s buddies at Firehouse 36 were gathered around the TV watching the Rams and Chiefs go at it. Things were “pretty much back to normal” as far the fires were concerned, said chief David Schwab, lounging before the big screen. “Local residents have been coming by asking for sandbags. Soil erosion is the main concern at this point.” The game was tied at 23 when Schwab and his team watched Aaron Donald of the Rams execute his second strip-sack of the game. Eight plays later, Schwab celebrated when Rams quarterback Jared Goff—the son of a firefighter, and, like Schwab, a Cal-Berkeley product—scrambled into the end zone and finger-rolled the ball over the crossbar to give L.A. a 30–23 lead.
The efforts of firefighters like Schwab had been aided these last couple of days by a nighttime mist like the one that lowered itself into the Coliseum as Monday’s game wore on. This vapor, punctured by the 95 combined spirals thrown by Goff and Chiefs quarterback Patrick Mahomes, mixed with the Coliseum’s lights to create a movie-set feel. The most suspenseful game of the NFL season finally loosed its grip on its audience when Rams safety Lamarcus Joyner intercepted a wobbly pass from Mahomes with twenty seconds left, to seal the 54–51 win. Rams general manager Les Snead approached head coach Sean McVay and said, “Have you ever been through one like that?” knowing full well the answer.
The victors’ locker room smelled like torn grass and hours-old sweat. Happy profanity abounded. Marcus Peters—Rams cornerback, team deejay, and former Kansas City Chief—cued up YG on the sound system.
“We felt like we had to do for this for the community,” guard Rodger Saffold said over the music, “because of the way they’ve stuck together. This win is a little more special than all the other ones.” The nine-year veteran’s face brightened with a sudden realization. “I’ve never been 10-1 in my life!”
It would be disingenuous to report that the home crowd had cheered louder than usual for the Rams on Monday night. For the first time this season, though, the volume of the home team’s fans was not exceeded by the visiting team’s supporters. Such is the plight of playing in a metropolis full of transplants. On Monday night, though, it was hard not to be an L.A. fan.
Ventura County Sheriff Sergeant Ron Helus had been a fan of Notre Dame football before he was killed at the Borderline Bar & Grill two Wednesdays ago. Moments before Helus entered the nightspot to try and put a stop to the shooting, he called his wife, Karen, and according to the Los Angeles Times, he told her, “I gotta go handle a call. I love you. I’ll talk to you later.”
Karen Helus and Jordan Helus, the 24-year-old son she raised with Ron, lit the Coliseum’s torch before Monday night’s game, just as someone on the sideline made the mistake of calling Ken Roberts—the firefighter who had worked, without sleep, at the scene of the Borderline incident, before moving on to the fires—a hero.
Roberts’s smile faded. On a night full of courageous deeds—the athletic kind, whose stakes are comparatively small—Roberts wanted to make sure that the H-word wouldn’t be misused.
“No,” he said firmly. “Ron Helus was a hero.”
In a City Hurting After Tragedy, Rams-Chiefs Brought Something Extraordinary
MICHAEL MCKNIGHT
November 20, 2018
LOS ANGELES — The faint wisp of smoke that still hovered over Malibu, 30 miles from the Los Angeles Coliseum, provided the most obvious clue that Monday night’s Rams-Chiefs game would be different. The dozens of first responders hanging around the sideline before kickoff offered another hint. The bags under their eyes presented a third. Citizens of this city, especially its northwest corner, had been exhausted by the events of the previous twelve days. What they wanted—what everyone in L.A. needed—was for Monday night to feel normal.
Instead, they got something extraordinary.
One hundred and five combined points. More than 1,000 yards of offense. Thirteen total touchdowns. Most importantly, a win for the home team, against a worthy opponent—a victory marked, fittingly, by resilience.
It was the first time that two teams had scored 50 points each in an NFL game. But this and all of the other eye-popping football stats were meaningless compared to the most important numbers of the day. Against overwhelming odds, the Woolsey fire had been stopped short of burning 100,000 acres—the damage stood at 96,949 at day’s end—and was 94% contained. A week earlier, it had blackened 91,572 acres with only 20% containment. That comeback had been made possible by people like Ken Roberts.
A captain in the Ventura County Fire Dept., Roberts worked two straight days, with no sleep, in the aftermath of the Borderline Bar & Grill shooting, which claimed twelve lives on Nov. 7. When his work there was done, Roberts went straight to the front lines of the fires that had been sparked the day after the shooting. “Today was the first day I’ve been home,” he said just prior to Monday night’s kickoff. “I had just enough time to take a shower and fight traffic to get here.”
The aura inside the Coliseum on Monday night was not one of mourning. Not even during the national anthem, which was sung by the choir from Cal Lutheran University—site of the Rams’ practice facility, and alma mater of the late Justin Meek, who had been gunned down at Borderline and at one point sung bass in that choir.
What the Coliseum felt like was relief. The 95-year-old building felt bright and shiny and full of life—the Rams’ canary yellow ‘Color Rush’ uniforms didn’t hurt—offering a haven from the wanton death and destruction of the fortnight just passed.
The Rams had given discounted tickets to first responders earlier this season, Captain Stan Ziegler of the Ventura County Fire Dept., pointed out, “but tonight feels different.” And not just because first responders got into the Chiefs game for free. “We’re not used to having the spotlight on us,” Ziegler explained. “In fact, most of us run from attention. We’re just thankful for this chance to relax and enjoy an evening, away from the stress of fighting fire and helping evacuate people.”
Before the national anthem, Ziegler and Roberts unfurled a massive American flag with hundreds other first responders, including Michael Williams of Ventura County Fire Station #36. Williams had been off duty when he first spotted the Woolsey Fire. After quickly calculating its path, he told his neighbors in Oak Park to evacuate. Then Williams watched his own home, where he lives with his wife and children, vanish into ash. He hardly paused, continuing to fight the wind-driven blaze that threatened his neighbors’ houses. He saved most of them.
Sean M. Haffey/Getty Images
Monday night, Williams’s buddies at Firehouse 36 were gathered around the TV watching the Rams and Chiefs go at it. Things were “pretty much back to normal” as far the fires were concerned, said chief David Schwab, lounging before the big screen. “Local residents have been coming by asking for sandbags. Soil erosion is the main concern at this point.” The game was tied at 23 when Schwab and his team watched Aaron Donald of the Rams execute his second strip-sack of the game. Eight plays later, Schwab celebrated when Rams quarterback Jared Goff—the son of a firefighter, and, like Schwab, a Cal-Berkeley product—scrambled into the end zone and finger-rolled the ball over the crossbar to give L.A. a 30–23 lead.
The efforts of firefighters like Schwab had been aided these last couple of days by a nighttime mist like the one that lowered itself into the Coliseum as Monday’s game wore on. This vapor, punctured by the 95 combined spirals thrown by Goff and Chiefs quarterback Patrick Mahomes, mixed with the Coliseum’s lights to create a movie-set feel. The most suspenseful game of the NFL season finally loosed its grip on its audience when Rams safety Lamarcus Joyner intercepted a wobbly pass from Mahomes with twenty seconds left, to seal the 54–51 win. Rams general manager Les Snead approached head coach Sean McVay and said, “Have you ever been through one like that?” knowing full well the answer.
The victors’ locker room smelled like torn grass and hours-old sweat. Happy profanity abounded. Marcus Peters—Rams cornerback, team deejay, and former Kansas City Chief—cued up YG on the sound system.
“We felt like we had to do for this for the community,” guard Rodger Saffold said over the music, “because of the way they’ve stuck together. This win is a little more special than all the other ones.” The nine-year veteran’s face brightened with a sudden realization. “I’ve never been 10-1 in my life!”
It would be disingenuous to report that the home crowd had cheered louder than usual for the Rams on Monday night. For the first time this season, though, the volume of the home team’s fans was not exceeded by the visiting team’s supporters. Such is the plight of playing in a metropolis full of transplants. On Monday night, though, it was hard not to be an L.A. fan.
Ventura County Sheriff Sergeant Ron Helus had been a fan of Notre Dame football before he was killed at the Borderline Bar & Grill two Wednesdays ago. Moments before Helus entered the nightspot to try and put a stop to the shooting, he called his wife, Karen, and according to the Los Angeles Times, he told her, “I gotta go handle a call. I love you. I’ll talk to you later.”
Karen Helus and Jordan Helus, the 24-year-old son she raised with Ron, lit the Coliseum’s torch before Monday night’s game, just as someone on the sideline made the mistake of calling Ken Roberts—the firefighter who had worked, without sleep, at the scene of the Borderline incident, before moving on to the fires—a hero.
Roberts’s smile faded. On a night full of courageous deeds—the athletic kind, whose stakes are comparatively small—Roberts wanted to make sure that the H-word wouldn’t be misused.
“No,” he said firmly. “Ron Helus was a hero.”
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Media: today's offense is killing the defense and its bringing down the quality of the game.
Also media: well the Rams created 4 sacks, 2 forced fumbles 1 for a td and a pick 6.
Media: weeelllll...KC is still the better team bc they had a better offense.
Me:
Also media: well the Rams created 4 sacks, 2 forced fumbles 1 for a td and a pick 6.
Media: weeelllll...KC is still the better team bc they had a better offense.
Me:
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Classic reaction I see all over the place.
Media/Rams and other teams fans: If the Rams want to go anywhere in the playoffs they can't give up 51 points.
Same people: Kansas City is still the clear favorite to go to the Super Bowl for the AFC, even though they gave up 54 points.
Failed logic is amazing.
Media/Rams and other teams fans: If the Rams want to go anywhere in the playoffs they can't give up 51 points.
Same people: Kansas City is still the clear favorite to go to the Super Bowl for the AFC, even though they gave up 54 points.
Failed logic is amazing.
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I started to watch that video, saw how long it was and immediately clicked off. What a turd.
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On the bright side, it is the bye week. We can use a break from these media ding dongs.
I bet they'll love us as soon as we smack the crap out of the lions...NOT!
I bet they'll love us as soon as we smack the crap out of the lions...NOT!
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That nfl live clip man. Slobbering over mahomes then only talk about mcvay. Turds. Later in the show they have Goff 30 seconds of talk time.
Credit to John fox though. They were going through their offensive players of the year and he had mahomes at 3, Goff at 2 and brees at 1.
Who'd think that the two biggest turds in the media, florio and king, were probably the only ones to give Goff the kind of respect his good play deserves right now. And florio brought up the point I've made since last season started, the reason nobody talks about Goff is he runs the play how it's supposed to be run.
He makes the right read then throws a perfect ball to the right guy. He doesn't hold onto the ball too long, run around like a chicken with no head then make a pass downfield. If it's not there he will throw it away and move onto the next play. Media types don't respect that for whatever fucked up reason. For them a qb has to make plays off schedule otherwise he's just a game manager. He's not exciting enough for them. Me, I prefer a qb that runs the play the way it's supposed to be run.
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That nfl live clip man. Slobbering over mahomes then only talk about mcvay. Turds. Later in the show they have Goff 30 seconds of talk time.
Credit to John fox though. They were going through their offensive players of the year and he had mahomes at 3, Goff at 2 and brees at 1.
Who'd think that the two biggest turds in the media, florio and king, were probably the only ones to give Goff the kind of respect his good play deserves right now. And florio brought up the point I've made since last season started, the reason nobody talks about Goff is he runs the play how it's supposed to be run.
He makes the right read then throws a perfect ball to the right guy. He doesn't hold onto the ball too long, run around like a chicken with no head then make a pass downfield. If it's not there he will throw it away and move onto the next play. Media types don't respect that for whatever fucked up reason. For them a qb has to make plays off schedule otherwise he's just a game manager. He's not exciting enough for them. Me, I prefer a qb that runs the play the way it's supposed to be run.
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Well, mostly it is the belief that McVay is amazing to get Goff to play at this level. That was one statement the guy who is on with Chris Carter. See, while they will grudgingly admit to their mistake, that Goff was a bust, they still won't just give him credit for playing without one of his receivers or getting plowed helmet to helmet and still making plays or having an amazing last minute comeback to win. Most only mention these things when they can mention all the help he gets from McVay over headset or how great the scheme is or stuff like that. They mention constantly all the weapons Goff has, but that doesn't figure in to Mahomes play. If Mahomes would have had the same scoring TD that Goff did it would have been how amazing "Showtime" is to see the opening and race in for the score. Instead we get McVay spread everyone out which allowed Goff to walk in. So like I said, they can't get passed the fuck up they made writing Goff off and they all did it.
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I know and Jesus F it's irritating. Two of the dudes I've disliked forever and they're the only ones seeing things clearly. WTF.
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Now you’re just being an ill-informed fuckhead.
90 people....90
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The D wasnt dominant, and with the names and $ on D we expect more. But as long as the D makes plays to keep the team in the game and makes stops when they are needed most, final 2 mins, I dont see a problem. Both coaches last night elected to throw the ball, knowing full well the other teams D could not stop the run. Turning the game into a shootout where everyone thought the team that had the ball last would win. The chiefs had 2 chances at winning in the final minute(s) and the Rams D did what kcs D could not, they got a stop, actually 2 of them, when their team needed them to in order to retain the lead and get the win. Both Ds got stops in the first 56 mins that kept their respective teams in the game and put them in a position to win. But only 1 teams O and D did what they needed to do in the final 3+ minutes to get the win. The Rams D forced 5 turnovers, 2 in the final 2 minutes, crunch time. KCs D had chances to get turnovers and win the game and failed. It wasnt an old fashioned 13-10 game but how many games have been over the past decade or more? There were 3 D TDs last night, how many times does that happen in a season? Both Ds played well enough to win regardless of the points allowed, but only because both Ds have great Os to help the team win.
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Cowherd's logic is completely questionable. You take away the 2 ints because they didn't shift the points and because they were the result of having the lead with less than 2 minutes left and you are left 3 turnovers. 1 that would be cancelled out by Goff's fumble and now you are really left with 2 turnovers that meaningfully impacted the score in the game. These two turnovers didn't happen in a vacuum. These were great plays by a defense that proved that they are more explosive than the Chiefs defense. If the argument is the Chiefs offense is better, sure, you can go ahead and have that debate. However, between the Rams offense, defense, and special teams, there is no way you can walk away from that game and still say the Chiefs are a superior team. All of this is ignoring Josh Reynolds near TD, a barely topped pass, and Cooks drop. Even when we score 54 pts, there is still potentional for even more greatness.
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Rams Mailbag Week 12: Riding high from the win, AD's sack record, and Goff's performance
https://www.therams.com/video/rams-...om-the-win-ad-s-sack-record-and-goff-s-perfor
https://www.therams.com/video/rams-...om-the-win-ad-s-sack-record-and-goff-s-perfor