Both of those guys sucked I hope both get cut.Depressing day. The only way the C situation could have worked out worse is if Fisher announced he's signed Scott Wells. Which I don't even put past him at this point.
People keep citing the myth of Justice Cunningham's blocking but it's simply not true on the field. Maybe both him and Bayer get cut, but if it was keeping J.Cunningham over Bayer -- who showed just as decent blocking and way better receiving -- it's, well, depressing.
Oh well, next week it's forgotten and I'll come back rooting for the Rams in game 1.
Great? :huh:
I didn't see him give one up, but may have missed one early, but he did end up as being #2 on the OLT depth chart, if anyone was paying attention. He was clearly our 2nd best OLT, IMO. He has the body and quickness to be able to play G too.Did not give up a sack unless I missed it and held up very solid, great in the sense of against the 2nd and third team...I guess "solid" would've been the better word.
Jones isn't really a surprise...If we look at performance...What has he really done? The same with Jo Lonn...His play has really fallen off since the stoppage of PED's....I joke and prod about guys like Chase Reynolds...Cody Davis...just personal peeves of mine, but their play really hasn't tapered...In fact, they're probably getting better in their roles...I'll wait to see who these last few names are...but I think they'll be like Dunbar & Jones, guys that have reached their ceilings, and possibly starting to decline.....If we keep 11 OL, 3 QB, and I'm assuming a larger than norm group of safeties what quality players at other positions might we lose? Seems like there's going to have to be some more surprises besides Dunbar and Jones.
When you put it this way, there were times during that scrimmage, when it was so much chaos with bodies, no semblance of a uniform line...esp. with Rhaney & Barnes at center..it was really hard to follow...So, I can totally get what you're saying...damn a one on one drill, almost damn getting blown back or beat. Make sure you have those other 4 bodies doing whats best for the success of the play...I get that...You really want to understand how they made the decision..... Don't focus on the individual. Focus on the unit and how it performs as an entity.
Rhaney isn't close to being ready to play. Neither from a physical standpoint but more importantly from the mental aspect.Ummmmm I was replying to somebody saying we should be waiting for somebody to be released to come in and start over Barnes. I'm not advocating it happening I'm driving the Rhaney hype train.
Cut block is what you do on backside blocks, you know that. He's not ready to be our C, totally agree with that, he had a lot of good moments at G, if you watched the preseason games, particularly the last two.Rhaney isn't close to being ready to play. Neither from a physical standpoint but more importantly from the mental aspect.
He seems to have caught everyone's attention with his continued use of the "cut block". The biggest reason to use that "technique" is because he isn't physically strong enough to get the job done otherwise. What some call athleticism, I call a lack of strength.
He continually gets pushed shoved back into the backfield. While it may not end up with his man making the tackle, it more than likely disrupts the play. Forced the RB to change direction or makes the QB bale on the pocket prematurely.
At this point if D. Rhaney sees the field this offense will be worse for it. He will be at best the 5th Guard. And let's hope he isn't forced into any prolonged aging time at Center.
Respect you for your knowledge and opinion but I disagree, I did not see Rhaney beaten as you're describing any more than the other options. I'm just ready for the Seahawks and to see how things turn out.Rhaney isn't close to being ready to play. Neither from a physical standpoint but more importantly from the mental aspect.
He seems to have caught everyone's attention with his continued use of the "cut block". The biggest reason to use that "technique" is because he isn't physically strong enough to get the job done otherwise. What some call athleticism, I call a lack of strength.
He continually gets shoved back into the backfield. While it may not end up with his man making the tackle, it more than likely disrupts the play. Forced the RB to change direction or makes the QB bale on the pocket prematurely.
At this point if D. Rhaney sees the field this offense will be worse for it. He will be at best the 5th Guard. And let's hope he isn't forced into any prolonged aging time at Center.
And what would make you believe that anyone out there would come in and supplant a guy who had been here for 4 years?
A starting Center just doesn't walk in and learn the system (terminology:line calls;play book, etc) without greatly limiting the offense.
I honestly don't understand what a lot of you are expecting from the position. The most important job of a center is to have the ability to get everyone on the same page. He is universally considered "half a blocker" compared to everyone else on the unit.
You really want to understand how they made the decision..... Don't focus on the individual. Focus on the unit and how it performs as an entity. Go back and look at the results when Barnes played compared to the other two. It's not even close. And wasn't throughout training camp.
And what would make you believe that anyone out there would come in and supplant a guy who had been here for 4 years?
A starting Center just doesn't walk in and learn the system (terminology:line calls;play book, etc) without greatly limiting the offense.
I honestly don't understand what a lot of you are expecting from the position. The most important job of a center is to have the ability to get everyone on the same page. He is universally considered "half a blocker" compared to everyone else on the unit.
You really want to understand how they made the decision..... Don't focus on the individual. Focus on the unit and how it performs as an entity. Go back and look at the results when Barnes played compared to the other two. It's not even close. And wasn't throughout training camp.
None of the three played very well so you had to figure one was very likely to get cut. This really isn't a surprise.I am not a happy camper about Jones.
Because a 3 year veteran 4th round pick who never started a game was cut? We all knew coming into camp even with 2 projected rookies starting that Center was likely to be the weak link on the line.This just shows how far down the shitter our center position is.
Thanks Captain Obvious.This just shows how far down the shitter our center position is.