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LA_vision said:
He also has the balls to hold players accountable and bench Jimmy when he's hot garbage. Today's first half was one of the worst QB performances I can remember in a long time.
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Yes. I was thinking as half time started. I wonder if McVay will bench him JUST TO show Goff he CANNOT be that careless with the football, whether it's a horrible throw or not protecting the football. If it were my decision, I'm pretty sure I would have sat him for the 2nd half. Make him think about it.
 
When Goff has a bad game, we lose. What hurts is had we run the ball 65% of the game and played field position and ball control, we win that game. It’s like McVay expects Goff to turn it around mid game - has that ever happened?
 
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Anyone else turn that bull shit off in the 3rd?
 
12intheBox said:
When Goff has a bad game, we lose. What hurts is had we run the ball 65% of the game and played field position and ball control, we win that game. It’s like McVay expects Goff to turn it around mid game - has that ever happened?
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The NFCCG against the Saints.

But I'm fine with McVay wanting to pass - against some teams, we can run the ball and ply defense and win. We may have been able to today.

But eventually Goff will need to lead us, and the Dolphins d is just about an average unit.
 
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Ramlock said:
Sometimes I wonder if Goff wouldn’t be better in a different system?

He’s asked to do things other QB’s are not.

This is a RB friendly offense and the QB plays under center most of the time...all the play fakes, misdirection.

I still don’t think McVay has figured out attacking the 6 man front.
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That’s a fair question about Goff but let me pose this very similar question: how successful would this offense be with a guy like Dak Prescott? He may not have as nice of a ball as Goff does but he excels in things that Goff has issues with: reading defenses, changing the play at the LOS, ball security and he can kill you with his legs if you send the house.
 
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I only followed the game by NFL Redzone and ESPN Gamecast so I didn’t really see the game. With that said the Defense F-ing SHUT down the Fins offense. It doesn’t look like you could have asked anymore from them. Offense failed miserably. The Rams were way off on their pass game early which is always a bad sign. As it seems to rattle them and they start to abandon the run game in order to ignite the passing game. JFC It took them 2 1/2 quarters to do ANYTHING. Rushing offense appeared to be working just fine. I am Guessing all 4 turnovers were not entirely on Goff but I did see the first one. It was a horrible pass from Goff and handed the Fins their first TD. What about the fumbles? Goff has had trouble before with fumbles and he needs to tighten that up asap. I am a Rams lifer but I could see how a game like this could push a more casual fan away. You couldn’t script a worse half of football than what happened today in the first half.
 
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FrantikRam said:
But eventually Goff will need to lead us, and the Dolphins d is just about an average unit.
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Well against the pass they were unbelievably good today.

Like all of the negativity towards the Rams passing offense today? A lot of that is about how fucking well coached and how well they executed that coaching.
They had us sweating in the heat on a short week on the east coast while chilling in the shade for 2 weeks.

Their D was phenomenal today and wherever the blame goes, they deserve their credit.
 
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It took 3 days to get to 9 pages in last weeks celebration page. A couple hours this weekend gets us 8 pages and counting.
 
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Frustrating to see the lack of urgency on offense; can’t remember the last time we consistently broke the huddle so late under McVay. Maybe Pittsburgh last year?
Really missed a deep threat today too, don’t see anyone on this roster threatening to take the top off the defense.
 
FrantikRam said:
Just as an example - McVays play calling may have led to bad plays, but McVay didn't turn the ball over four times, and that's the only reason we lost
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This x1000.

In the first half McVay called screens and got lambasted by the faithful for dumb calls. In the second half drive where we scored he called screens that were properly executed and he was a genius. Truth is somewhere in between the extremes IMO (he ran into another Belichick defense/prep that kicked his ass), but with fans it's always about the play call but rarely about the execution.

Rams' OL had the Dolphins beat up front in the run game. So I agree McVay should have run more. Especially early on. But also you have the DC playing games with him, showing fronts to influence what the Rams do which is check into and out of different plays depending on what the QB sees. The offense is set up for the QB to be able to do all manner of shit there.

I think this was another growing curve game for our QB more than anything else. You can't be turning over the ball. And when you see a defense playing with zero safeties deep in order to bring the blitz that puts pressure on the QB to beat them. Goff struggled and there you have it.

What is so antagonizing, at least to me, about this loss is that we still were in the game up until that drop by Everett and the FG miss. It's fucking maddening.
 
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TXRams86 said:
That’s a fair question about Goff but let me pose this very similar question: how successful would this offense be with a guy like Dak Prescott? He may not have as nice of a ball as Goff does but he excels in things that Goff has issues with: reading defenses, changing the play at the LOS, ball security and he can kill you with his legs if you send the house.
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He's also out for the season and may not be be the same QB when he gets back. That's a short term solution.

The problem isn't that the Rams need to be better off schedule, it's that they need to play to their strengths. It took way too long to recognize that the screen game/rollout game was there. I get that there were some unblocked rushers on the turnover plays, but the O line was losing those one-on-ones and the DBs has good coverage down the field. We needed to make them think more instead of pin their ears back and blow up plays (even running plays).
 
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TXRams86 said:
That’s a fair question about Goff but let me pose this very similar question: how successful would this offense be with a guy like Dak Prescott? He may not have as nice of a ball as Goff does but he excels in things that Goff has issues with: reading defenses, changing the play at the LOS, ball security and he can kill you with his legs if you send the house.
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There is not much difference in their turnover numbers and the run-around guys get sacked more than pocket passers.

No thanks on Dak...who is not available to play, btw.
 
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I got up to watch Redzone here and saw the final score by mistake as i was playing it back.
This was one game where i thought a win was certain.
 
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@flv can we get a bet up in the sportsbook on how long Bonamego will last as ST coach? Or is that too mean-spirited.
 
Merlin said:
This x1000.

In the first half McVay called screens and got lambasted by the faithful for dumb calls. In the second half drive where we scored he called screens that were properly executed and he was a genius. Truth is somewhere in between the extremes IMO (he ran into another Belichick defense/prep that kicked his ass), but with fans it's always about the play call but rarely about the execution.

Rams' OL had the Dolphins beat up front in the run game. So I agree McVay should have run more. Especially early on. But also you have the DC playing games with him, showing fronts to influence what the Rams do which is check into and out of different plays depending on what the QB sees. The offense is set up for the QB to be able to do all manner of shit there.

I think this was another growing curve game for our QB more than anything else. You can't be turning over the ball. And when you see a defense playing with zero safeties deep in order to bring the blitz that puts pressure on the QB to beat them. Goff struggled and there you have it.

What is so antagonizing, at least to me, about this loss is that we still were in the game up until that drop by Everett and the FG miss. It's fucking maddening.
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Eh, I think this view takes the commentary from the broadcast too seriously. That color commentator was awful. We did not run many screens into obvious pressure in the first half. We had 3rd and long a bunch but usually that doesn't stop McVay.

The first pick was a fluke int from a defensive tackle on a well thrown ball, the other was a tipped ball. I thought the comeback routes were worse throws (Goff need to throws those with velocity if the corner can jump the route). The two fumbles came from unblocked rushers on an obvious blitz (no safety in the backfield, everyone on the LOS). Henderson absolutely whiffed on a rusher that hit Goff on his blindside. Whatever play we were running, the coaching staff believed that the blocks would hold.
 
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