Petition to Replace Vinovitch with a Different Ref

[Corbin]

Signed

138 people in

 

[96GS#007]

Goodell to Vino...."See that petition online? Give 'em another reason to complain"

 

[rdw]

Signed, sealed, delivered.. it's currently at 139! Need more.

 

[thirteen28]

2013 @ Panthers 30-15 Loss - Penalties 8-68 us, 7-59 them - (Bradford hurt, Long tossed)

Yeah, and that POS Panthers S Mitchell (forget his first name) stands over Bradford celebrating after tearing his ACL - based on an unnecessary push when Bradford was going out of bounds - and of course they did nothing. They also took away a TD pass to Tavon on a very questionable "tripping" call against Jake Long in that game (think the officials were the ones tripping, on acid).

 

[LesBaker]

The main problem is that the initial call will not be reversed by the league office without first consulting with the ref and what he saw as the circumstances that led to the forward progress being stopped or reached. And even then, there has to be conclusive evidence that over rules what the Ref says he saw.

This is a poor policy IMO. When we can see a mistake is made they can too.

The policy should be changed to allow the people looking at the play to decide what they think the call should be after watching the reviews that we see along with the All-22 and Eye in the Sky. It should NOT be is there evidence to change the call. It should be what is the correct call. These should not be people employed by the refs union either.

The mistake on the Hekker spot was dumb, as in rookie mistake bad, and I called it out as it happened. He spotted the ball where Hekker's knee went down, not where the ball was.

 

[HX76]

Personally I think the Rams can beat the Saints with whoever is officiating and I hope you lot, and more importantly the team, think so as well. Whether they do or not remains to be seen and we'll find out on Sunday. Things like this can create unnecessary negativity in my book, something we don't need. I like to think that us Rams fans are not whiny and get on with things, this just seems a bit cringeworthy to me and if we are screwed out of the game on Sunday then the whole world will see it and know exactly what has happened and how bent he is. I realise this might not be a popular opinion on here though reading through others comments!

 

[LesBaker]

Yeah, and that POS Panthers S Mitchell (forget his first name) stands over Bradford celebrating after tearing his ACL - based on an unnecessary push when Bradford was going out of bounds - and of course they did nothing. They also took away a TD pass to Tavon on a very questionable "tripping" call against Jake Long in that game (think the officials were the ones tripping, on acid).

It was a legal hit, and he wasn't standing over him celebrating or tainting he was several feet away. I remember that because this argument came up and someone posted video of the play and I had to admit that I was not right about what happened. It wasn't really any different than any other play really.

Any QB is going to get a shove as long as they are on the field of play, so will a RB or WR. It happens all game long in every game.

I don't recall the tripping that negated a TD for TAustin but it wouldn't surprise me because that guy was snakebitten when it came to plays getting called back.

 

[RamFan503]

This is a poor policy IMO. When we can see a mistake is made they can too.

The policy should be changed to allow the people looking at the play to decide what they think the call should be after watching the reviews that we see along with the All-22 and Eye in the Sky. It should NOT be is there evidence to change the call. It should be what is the correct call.

Agreed. Take an unbiased look at the play and decide the correct call. I'm not sure there will ever be such a thing as the unbiased call or that we will get their union out of the equation but I agree with your thought on this.

 

[LesBaker]

Agreed. Take an unbiased look at the play and decide the correct call. I'm not sure there will ever be such a thing as the unbiased call or that we will get their union out of the equation but I agree with your thought on this.

If it was done properly the people making the call on the review shouldn't know the score, time on the clock, down and distance or anything else. Judge the play in a vacuum so to speak. It's probably going to happen in negotiations for the next CBA.

 

[RamFan503]

If it was done properly the people making the call on the review shouldn't know the score, time on the clock, down and distance or anything else. Judge the play in a vacuum so to speak. It's probably going to happen in negotiations for the next CBA.

I wouldn't mind seeing them try that.

 

[“Turbo set!”]

I wouldn't make the assumption that the NFL offices are not aware of Vinovitch's bias against the Rams. That could be why they chose him to officiate the game.

 

[Mojo Ram]

signed

 

[LesBaker]

@thirteen28 here is the video. He is several feet from Bradford, whom he shoved and made first contact with about 5 feet from the sidelines, maybe 6, and let up and let go of his jersey as he was gong out of bounds.

A totally routine play. This happens multiple times a game in every game.

 

[jrry32]

They you would know that when a solid group of coaches showed up the penalties declined.

But you didn't say that.

Yet, the losses didn't decline, and we still continued to be assessed more penalty yardage than our opponents. You're basically telling us to ignore incredibly anomalous results because . . . well, I'm not sure. You haven't made much of an argument for why this is easily explainable.

 

[LesBaker]

Yet, the losses didn't decline, and we still continued to be assessed more penalty yardage than our opponents. You're basically telling us to ignore incredibly anomalous results because . . . well, I'm not sure. You haven't made much of an argument for why this is easily explainable.

Then you aren't reading..........

 

[AllGasNoBrakes]

Of course I signed!

 

[Ramhusker]

I hope this ends up being bulletin board ammo for our team. Go in planning on beating the Saints and the Refs!!!!!! Get that win against the Vin!!!!

 

[RamFanWA]

Signed . . And put a couple bits into the advertising jar ..

 

[CGI_Ram]

I signed it.

 

[Stl2La]

What are the exact games his crew reffed?
2012 - Packers 30-20 Loss - Penalties 6-30 us, 3-30 them
2013 @ Panthers 30-15 Loss - Penalties 8-68 us, 7-59 them - (Bradford hurt, Long tossed)
2013 @ 49'ers 23-13 Loss - Penalties 11-105 us, 9-85 them
2014 @ Eagles 34-28 Loss - Penalties 10-82 us, 4-39 them
2015 Cardinals 27-3 Loss - Penalties 7-104 us, 3-25 them
2016 @ 49'ers 28-0 Loss - Penalties10-102 us, 2-10 them
No games in 2017
then the 2 losses this year to the Saints and Eagles....as previously mentioned the tick poor spot on the fake which swung momentum...penalties in the Saints game was 4-32 us, 2-20 them
Eagles game was 5-50 us 6-49 them

That comes out to:

Rams- 72 penalty ypg and 7.6 penalties/gm
Opponent- 39.6 penalty ypg and 4.5 penalties/gm

So almost double the penalty yardage on average. Yikes.