Offensive Line Breakdown….Who Will Make the Final 53?

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Got it!
“Why would we release such a good player simply because of an injury.

I think they should have rode it out with Garrett and let him heal up”

Doesn’t sound at all like you wish they’d kept him around :)
There's a difference between, "back on the team", which is what you said and wishing that they had the dignity and brain power to keep him around on IR, letting him heal up for a year or so and then having him compete as a competent backup.
 

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I feel 9 is a good number, however, 10 is a tad heavy, but you could keep 10 if you feel they are worthy. Some teams go light with 8, but 9 IMHO is the magic number, but the Rams are Center heavy so that has to play into the equation as well.

@So Ram continues to post about Aaron Neary and I have posted several times, that Neary against the 49ers did not play well, in fact, much of the pressure that Mannion endured in that game came from up the middle right over Neary and from the left side where Darrell Williams played.

The reason I was excited about the Jamil Demby pick was his size and the transition to guard from tackle should be a seamless transition, also Demby at 6-5 321 pounds would offer something bigger than Blythe at 298lbs & Neary at 299lbs. Again we need to see how training camp goes and then preseason, also you have to factor in a possible injury as well.

Cornelius Lucas was lights out in the 49ers game, did not give up a sack and was very solid in the run game and graded out very well along with the Left Guard Austin Blythe in that game. Blythe has proven his worth, being able to hold down Guard & Center, however, Brian Allen seems to be the heir apparent to John Sullivan at center. I'm sure we will get an opportunity to see Lucas at LT, where @BonifayRam posted about Lucas having trouble at that position in Detroit and that is why the Lions acquired Greg Robinson and after the trade with the Rams, released Lucas, who was then claimed by the Rams, so in essence, one could surmise that the Rams received not only a 6th round pick for Robinson, but Cornelius Lucas as well.

Not sure if Lucas has the footwork for LT, but at RT, he seemed very good and his height at 6-9 is something that Offensive Line Coach Aaron Kromer covets, so I'm anxious to see how that plays out as well. I get the feeling the Rams keep 9 and I also get a feeling somebody with go on the IR, hopefully nobody serious and not one of the starters, but carrying 10 early could allow them to factor in an injury down the road.

All real good points. I’m basically going by OTA’s & Reps.

Kromer I’m sure has a master plan of what he is looking for. He did & does an excellent job coaching(teaching)

With Demby , he is getting moved around. He was put on 3rd string at Tackle towards the end of OTA’s. That could be real good cross training.I liked the pick & had him as a sleeper pick, so I hope he sticks from my draft grading
value pick.Would have even drafted in 4th & thought the 5thrd would have been excellent value. Being a 6th rd pick reminds me of EJ Gaines falling intonThe Rams lap.

Neary was getting first team reps along with D. Williams. Yes, I know it is to early to make that of any importance, but McVay does talk about getting Reps in no matter what.

Going against Suh & the first team defense might make a rookie grow up quickly.

1 more month & we will have more answers.
Preseason & lights on is a true measure.
—Experience matters & one game does not make or break a player.Neary got tested & failed.Has he improved in the last 6 months ?
 
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Don't read too much into OTA's. Things will change considerably when TC starts. Don't expect Whitworth and Sullivan to see much action in pre season either. Kromer's going to need that time to evaluate backups. I expect Rams to keep one or two more OL than last year and one less WR since that groups depth has proven deeper, 6 at most.

4 longs weeks til TC.:sleep::sleep::sleepz::sleepz:
 

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I guess my big question is;
Why would they release such a good player simply because of an injury?

I think they should have road it out with Garrett and let him heal up.

Of course that fit the whole Fisher and Boudreau O line building method just to let the guy go.
Boudreau pee-pee'd Reynolds off.

https://ramsondemand.com/threads/whatever-happened-to-garrett-reynolds.49487/#post-900288

https://ramsondemand.com/threads/greg-robinson-to-the-right-side.48996/page-3#post-884547
 

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Don't read too much into OTA's. Things will change considerably when TC starts. Don't expect Whitworth and Sullivan to see much action in pre season either. Kromer's going to need that time to evaluate backups. I expect Rams to keep one or two more OL than last year and one less WR since that groups depth has proven deeper, 6 at most.

4 longs weeks til TC.:sleep::sleep::sleepz::sleepz:

Well as the World turns !!

The Rams will for sure keep more Offensive Lineman this season!! Thanks Jamin Brown.
 

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Well as the World turns !!

The Rams will for sure keep more Offensive Lineman this season!! Thanks Jamin Brown.

Chance for your boy Neary.
 

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Sounds like we have a wager So Ram. 10K ROD$$ straight up. If DWilliams does NOT make the final 53, I win. If he DOES make the final 53, IOU. Practice Squad does NOT count.

I'm not sure how to set up the bet in Sportsbook, but we have plenty of time to do that. Needs to be done by the start of TC. flv will help with that.

So Ram, will you be going to any of the TC practices in Irvine?


Well today is Offensive Line day in camp. Getting ready to today. The photos from camp on The Rams site has been real poor, & hate the web-site change. The photos drop from my phone.

I’ll get a good look at Darrell Williams. Have not clue how he is doing.

—Just thinking about things right now from listening from McVays first interview saying Noteboom can play guard. That to me shows trust in a veteran tackle ? Which of course I believe must be Williams?
 

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Last season during camp against Chargers, Brown was playing LT. So right now players should getting some good cross training in.
 

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Last season during camp against Chargers, Brown was playing LT. So right now players should getting some good cross training in.
In that pic it shows how we started camp with Brown at RT and Hav at RG. It lasted about a week and they were switched back.
 

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At TC Monday, DWilliams did not dress. Injury? I'll be there today and I intend to get as close to OL and DL as I can.
 

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In that pic it shows how we started camp with Brown at RT and Hav at RG. It lasted about a week and they were switched back.

It was a little longer than that, but it was for the better.I’m not a big Rb Havenstein guy. I have a feeling he will not be a Ram next season.
Brown showed he can play RT though which is cool.
 

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At TC Monday, DWilliams did not dress. Injury? I'll be there today and I intend to get as close to OL and DL as I can.

Yeah, I went today. Williams actually looked alright. He was cross training as well. Played LG & RT.

Lucas has trouble with his stance. Noteboom is going to be good. He is cross training as well.He is going to be an excellent talent.
 

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It was a little longer than that, but it was for the better.I’m not a big Rb Havenstein guy. I have a feeling he will not be a Ram next season.
Brown showed he can play RT though which is cool.
Why so down on Havenstein? You do realize that it was not Havenstein's doing when he was moved from right guard to right tackle. The reason they were switched was Brown was lousy at right tackle. So I would take Havenstein over Brown any day, it's not even close.
 

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He has been playing mainly on the Left Side .
I think Austin Blythe starts game one if season was today.
That is what McVay indicated as well.

He felt a comfort level at that position having seen Blythe play last year.
 

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Why so down on Havenstein? You do realize that it was not Havenstein's doing when he was moved from right guard to right tackle. The reason they were switched was Brown was lousy at right tackle. So I would take Havenstein over Brown any day, it's not even close.

The switch was because Kromer wanted Greg Robinson to play RT. Yes Jamon Brown was going to be the back up guard.
Jamon Brown played well enough to beat Robinson out a RT. Big Rob was not that good at RG. That is why they switched back,plus he was the better RT. Jamon Brown needed time to develop at little more.

I have a feeling Big Rob will be harder to resign.He still plays a little start up.
 

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The switch was because Kromer wanted Greg Robinson to play RT. Yes Jamon Brown was going to be the back up guard.
Jamon Brown played well enough to beat Robinson out a RT. Big Rob was not that good at RG. That is why they switched back,plus he was the better RT. Jamon Brown needed time to develop at little more.

I have a feeling Big Rob will be harder to resign.He still plays a little start up.
Not sure why you brought GR into this, as that matters not. Who is the the right tackle now? If McVay would have thought that Brown was the better tackle, he would have addressed it. After GR was out of the picture Brown and Havenstein battled it out. But Brown was so bad in that preseason game against Jacksonville that it was then that Havenstein was moved to RT. So yes Brown is an inferior lineman compared to Havenstein.