NFL Arrests and Lawsuits - 2018

[LACHAMP46]

The douche made all kinds of accusations like being held at gun point and being called the N word by a white officer.

And we know for a fact that neither of these 2 things occurred???

In my humble opinion the biggest problem in our society today, and you can extend this to pretty much every corner of society, is the absolute, incessant, uncompromising NEED to win.

Capitalism by its very nature causes competition.....the need to "win"...To be better...the best....and in this search, problems will & do, arise.

 

[RamFan503]

And we know for a fact that neither of these 2 things occurred???

Well we know for sure that a white officer had nothing to do with it. So I would conclude that the rest of his crap is bullshit race baiting. I don’t care what race anyone is. If they are being a POS they are being a POS. And race baiting is really one of my peeves. There is true racism going on every day and he is doing the opposite of helping in this case.

 

[RamFan503]

I'm saying that you shouldn't talk to the police without a lawyer if you're being investigated for more than an infraction. You have to cooperate with lawful commands. However, that's easier said than done in an active shooter situation.

That refinement of your argument I can get behind. Words can be twisted. No one has time or the mindset to be a wordsmith when cops are trying to get you to slip up.

 

[Psycho_X]

 

[Zaphod]

And we know for a fact that neither of these 2 things occurred???
Capitalism by its very nature causes competition.....the need to "win"...To be better...the best....and in this search, problems will & do, arise.

Competitions isn't a product of capitalism. Competition exists within every life form on this planet, if not for survival then at least as a natural consequence of evolution. In that light, capitalism is just an economic system that I believe has been successful as it coincides within the construct of "human" nature.

If anything, we are failed by a lack of balance imposed upon our own nature by a lack of acceptance for the consequences of competition (not knowing how to lose). I just think it's a natural consequence of ego protection of narcissistic behavior (we can't always win and what happens when we don't) that lends itself to destructive behavior.

Socialism is another example of an economic system that mimics nature as it pertains to some species (including humanity) that relies upon cohesive social behavior for survival, and it is of course tremendously important to our continued existence.

But one can't exist without the other. Eliminate internal competition, and your tribe will be obsolesced by one that encourages competition among it's members, and of course promote individualism too much and your tribe won't stand up to the attrition of that cohesiveness.

 

[Corbin]

Not to kinda, once again bore the crap out of members here who know this already but I started RRF all by my lonesome and saw it devolve into...

You know how that happened? I was all for politics and religion being discussed in a separate section. The other guys who were modding with me tried to talk me out of it. What I didn't know was that bitter arguments and resentments bleed into all the other sections.

So if someone ticked a member off in the politics/religion section, that feud would continue in the Rams section. At the very least if a person makes a mistake, they should learn from it and not do it again.



Have you not noticed that civility is off the table in 2018? I've known pastors in churches who ranted about politics from the pulpit and half their members left. I've known marriages and entire families that have been shaken due to the last two elections. I know a guy who won't speak to me any longer because I said something critical about the Pope, lol.

That's unfortunately the world we live in today. Each side dehumanizes the other side. There's been a seismic shift in our ability to communicate openly and honestly with one another and it hasn't been for the better. I blame the internet for much of that. Just go over to Youtube and read the comments.

We won't let that happen here even if it appears to some that we're overly controlling.

And this is exactly the reason why I am open to discussions and other peoples points of views because it helps me reflect on my thoughts and rationalize if they are legit or not. I rest my case sir, point taken.

I do have to say I agree wholeheartedly it is amazing how people can take a stance and won't even be open to discussion and polarize themselves now more than ever it seems. Pretty sad because there is always a chance to learn something from somebody else. I don't know what is to blame for that? Social Media? The internet? Media in general? Probably a mixture of all three.

 

[LACHAMP46]

Competitions isn't a product of capitalism. Competition exists within every life form on this planet, if not for survival then at least as a natural consequence of evolution. In that light, capitalism is just an economic system that I believe has been successful as it coincides within the construct of "human" nature.

Hmmmmm.....

Good points....
But Capitalism without some social elements, will ultimately fail....the distribution of wealth is too vast....and many would literally starve & die off from illnesses....or suffer from any of the other horrors of the economic design to distribute wealth....unfairly.

 

[Angry Ram]

Plus ask the officer if by refusing to take a breath test is he legally allowed to take away your license.

Or you can avoid it all together and not drive drunk.

best advice, do not interact with the police. Should you have to talk to them, say attorney please, and remember the 2nd liar doesn't stand a chance

Ehh no. Personal experience...I've interacted with them. I knew I did nothing wrong. Once I got pulled over for an honest mistake (rental car didn't have automatic headlights, it was night...you get the idea). I explained to him what happened, and he let me go. Now remember, I'm brown, had a beard, and was in a REALLY small town in the Tennessee/Alabama border area. And I got let off with a warning.

HMMMMMMMMMMMMM.

the 4th amendment in reference to a routine traffic stop, you are allowed to tell police to forget about searching your car, dont let them..

Well that could trigger the thought that you are hiding something = probable cause = officer can now search. Or if they smell weed or booze or w/e. K9 starts barking? Goodbye.

Going back to my story, the officer asked all the standard questions...any alcohol, weapons, etc. I said no because I truly wasn't/didn't have anything. Hell I didn't even get out of the car. The only thing I was concerned about was the car's rental agreement on the cell phone, which was attached to a holster on my hip. But respectively I said to the cop, I've got the rental agreement on my phone and it's attached to my hip. And well, he let me, I showed him the agreement, blah blah blah I was done. Whole ordeal took like 15 minutes, tops.

Now if I was an asshole and said something like "Bruh I know I mah rights I didn't do shit. I just ain't used to this bullshit rental car! Cops always fuckin with minorities, this whole damn town is fuckin racist...I know mah rights damnit!!!" then yeah, I just lost everything that got me out of a ticket.

Anyways, Michael Bennett has proven to be a liar once before, and it's hard to get past that rep.

And I don't care if this is a legal issue or police issue. Pushing anyone, let alone a paraplegic woman...just to get on a field is a dick move. Especially when you are a grown ass adult. Like come the hell on.

 

[jrry32]

Well that could trigger the thought that you are hiding something = probable cause = officer can now search.

No, it can't. Otherwise, the Fourth Amendment would offer no protection from searches. If you voluntarily consent, they can search. If you don't voluntarily consent, that gives them probable cause to search. It's heads I win, tails you lose. The courts have already rejected that argument.

 

[Akrasian]

Going back to my story, the officer asked all the standard questions...any alcohol, weapons, etc. I said no because I truly wasn't/didn't have anything. Hell I didn't even get out of the car. The only thing I was concerned about was the car's rental agreement on the cell phone, which was attached to a holster on my hip. But respectively I said to the cop, I've got the rental agreement on my phone and it's attached to my hip. And well, he let me, I showed him the agreement, blah blah blah I was done. Whole ordeal took like 15 minutes, tops.

Who had rented the car previously? Were you 100% positive, willing to bet your freedom and your clean record, that nothing illicit was left behind? If you consent to a search and are wrong, then you are nailed.

For your own car, has your kid borrowed your car? Did one of his or her friends drop something in it illicit? When you gave a co-worker a ride to lunch, did anything slip out of their pocket?

Did you know that if they have permission to search, they can tear the car apart and do not have to put it back together, taking hours potentially to get back on the road at best?

You might say those things wouldn't happen - but in fact, they have happened on occasion, and will happen again.

 

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Jeremy Lane pleads guilty to reckless driving charge following arrest
Posted by Curtis Crabtree on March 26, 2018

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Former Seattle Seahawks cornerback Jeremy Lane pleaded guilty to a charge of reckless driving on Monday following an arrest for suspicion of DUI in January, according to multiple reports.

Lane was well under the legal limit for alcohol impairment but had admitted to smoking marijuana earlier in the evening with officers noting the odor emanating from Lane’s vehicle. He had been pulled over for going 80 mph in a 60 mph zone and was seen drifting between lanes with his hazard lights on.

Lane was initially charged with DUI earlier this month before agreeing to plead guilty to an amended charge.

The Seahawks released Lane earlier this month in a move that helped the team with salary cap space. He appeared in 70 games while starting 21 games over six seasons with the team.

With a guilty plea in hand, it’s quite possible that Lane will face league discipline over the incident as well in the form of a suspension.

 

[12intheBox]

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Seahawks quarterback Trevone Boykin accused of domestic violence
Posted by Darin Gantt on March 27, 2018

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Seahawks quarterback Trevone Boykin is under investigation, after a woman in Texas accused him of domestic violence.

According to a report from WFAA, his girlfriend told police an incident that began with an argument over a text message led to an incident, in which she suffered a broken jaw.

“So he goes into a choke. I remember him choking me and I’m trying to calm him down. And I just couldn’t. And I blacked out. I just couldn’t calm him down at all,” Shabrika Bailey said. “The pressure was just hard. The pressure got hard to where I just remember just collapsing completely. And I just woke up in a puddle of blood on the kitchen floor. My whole right side was full of blood on the kitchen floor.”

Bailey spoke to the television station despite her jaw being wired shut. She said Boykin dragged her to the bathroom to try to clean her up after the incident, and that he later drove her to the hospital. But when hospital staff questioned her, he left the hospital and didn’t return.

“His first suggestion was to say that I fell. Then he suggested that I got beat up by a girl, or jumped. Then he suggested that I fell again,” she said. “He’s saying basically since we’ve already been in a case we don’t need nothing else. And of course his football career is on the line. That’s his main goal, just ‘my football career is on the line.”

Because her jaw was broken on both sides and she was having difficulty breathing, she was airlifted to another hospital, where she remained for three days.

The Mansfield Police Department interviewed Bailey Tuesday and confirmed Boykin was under investigation. Bailey’s the same woman who was with Boykin when the car they were in backed into a nightclub. She said that happened because they were fighting in the car. He was charged with possession of marijuana and public intoxication, but those charges against him were dropped last month.

 

[LACHAMP46]

Seahawks quarterback Trevone Boykin is under investigation, after a woman in Texas accused him of domestic violence.

According to a report from WFAA, his girlfriend told police an incident that began with an argument over a text message led to an incident, in which she suffered a broken jaw.

Just so everyone knows where I stand....this guy goes UNDER the jail....

didn't he have some incident last year b4 camp too????

 

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Seahawks cut Trevone Boykin minutes after domestic violence report
Posted by Michael David Smith on March 27, 2018

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The Seahawks wasted no time in responding after backup quarterback Trevone Boykin was accused of domestic violence.

Just minutes after a report that Boykin is accused of domestic violence, the Seahawks announced that they have released Boykin.‏

Boykin’s girlfriend reportedly told police that he attacked her, choking her and leaving her in a puddle of blood with a broken jaw.

The domestic violence case is the latest in a long line of off-field incidents for Boykin, and the Seahawks had likely decided that if he had any other incidents, he was done.

Boykin has been with the Seahawks for his entire NFL career but has rarely played behind starter Russell Wilson. Given the seriousness of these latest allegations, there’s a good chance he’ll never catch on with another NFL team.

 

[Psycho_X]

 

[Kevin]

You're correct but this involves an alleged shove not a brutal assault. A plea deal to a lesser charge along with an out of court financial settlement is most likely to happen.

Bingo. Large settlement and charges dropped or reduced to community service.

 

[Corbin]

Holy shit. Idk what to think about this whatsoever. If he did what is claimed the guy should be pummeled before and in prison.

That being said I myself have been in a situation like this and it’s not fun. It took 14 months and 2 different courts to to vindicate myself. It is pretty amazing how fast people turn on you just by the accusations of domestic violence etc.

 

[LACHAMP46]

That being said I myself have been in a situation like this and it’s not fun. It took 14 months and 2 different courts to to vindicate myself. It is pretty amazing how fast people turn on you just by the accusations of domestic violence etc.

In the instance of DV....I can see why they err on the side of the victim...Too many times, guys get released on bail, with a restraint on record, and visit the victim with terrible consequences.