New: Latest on Kroenke, Rams and NFL in STL

[LesBaker]

Hope you are ok, my friend! Thanks again, PT!!!

In case you were wondering here's the vid from the security camera.

 

[Prime Time]

In case you were wondering here's the vid from the security camera.

I like thinking of you as Prim's goat .

As long as you're both thinking about me.

On another note..the way this thread is being handled is hopeful and on behalf of the mod squad...:bow:

 

[LesBaker]

Oh yes, I'm all about staying cool on a hot day, warm on a cold day, and enjoying the sun on a pretty day. I hope we can make that happen.

I'll be in STL watching the games either way, though.

We don't always agree about things, but I wanted to sincerely compliment you on your unbridled support. I've gotten tired of Rams fans complaining and acting like this is some unique situation and things like this haven't happened in EVERY other stadium negotiation.

By the way who's the chick in your avatar?

@Prime Time I think of you every day when I'm in the shower

 

[mr.stlouis]

We don't always agree about things, but I wanted to sincerely compliment you on your unbridled support. I've gotten tired of Rams fans complaining and acting like this is some unique situation and things like this haven't happened in EVERY other stadium negotiation.

By the way who's the chick in your avatar?

@Prime Time I think of you every day when I'm in the shower

Appreciate that

I really am a sexy b-word

 

[Dodgersrf]

Word is that Stan wants to own everything including the dirt though
Assuming that is true, then what other owners do shouldn't really mean much. If it's really what Stan wants then it will be a sticking point.

Kind of like saying the NFL controls relocation not the owners. Not exactly true, its a good PR point, but if Stan wants to move, he can battle it out and move, but its more likely he'll just convince the owners to vote yes. Stuff about going to the NFL instead of him sounds like a PR move to me, to convince the NFL to let another team move there if he does go, rather than trying to force him to stay. These guys know more than I do obviously, but taking the approach of doing the minimum needed to force an owner to stay rather than get to hard negotiations seems like bad ju-ju to me.

I get the impression the NFL would be more discerning than Stan. The greed of the NFL has no boundries.

If a stadium meets NFL standards for a Superbowl, it should be good enough for Stan.

 

[den-the-coach]

Oh yes, I'm all about staying cool on a hot day, warm on a cold day, and enjoying the sun on a pretty day. I hope we can make that happen.

I'll be in STL watching the games either way, though.

And I hope to be there too!

 

[den-the-coach]

you can talk about the Urinals in AT&T stadium in Dallas and it'll still come up " That SOB Kroenke wants to put urinals in a stadium in LA" :/

Well, I know I'm a tad biased, however, I would hope there would be urinals in any stadium and I don't think people will be cursing Kroenke when they are utilizing the urinal because like they chant at Austin Peay University...Let's Go Pee!

 

[mr.stlouis]

And I hope to be there too!

Heck yeah, man. I think ROD needs to have a BYOB pregame.

 

[Tron]

I like to think of myself more as the Gale Hawthorne of ROD. "Described by Katniss as muscular and very handsome, and catches the attention of girls in District 12." :shades:

Lol you wish. You get beat and abused by everyone but keep fighting for the District. Your also a nice piece of ass and all the boys crave your attention.

You also have a thing for guys who give you bread.....odd turn on I must say....

 

[Boffo97]

Support, timing key to Rams plan
• By Jim Thomas

http://www.stltoday.com/sports/foot...cle_7e2fb1d3-e88c-5e7d-8317-60fc286b74dc.html

The St. Louis stadium/Rams relocation saga reached another milepost Friday with the unveiling of a stadium project on the north edge of downtown that would cost between $860 million and $985 million.

For now, the proposal presented at Union Station by Dave Peacock and Bob Blitz is the life raft that’s keeping NFL football afloat in St. Louis.

“I think to the degree that we progress on a plan and demonstrate the viability of it, we’re in good shape — the community — because the NFL bylaws have certain stipulations that relate to moving and relocation that we will have met in the local community,” said Peacock, who with Blitz was appointed by Gov. Jay Nixon to develop a plan to keep professional football in St. Louis.

But if the situation reaches the level where the Rams are lobbying with the league to move to Los Angeles, two areas are almost certain to be discussed:

• Is the St. Louis effort to address its stadium situation a case of too little, too late?

• Is there sufficient support in the business community and corporate sector to keep the Rams profitable and viable in St. Louis?

Peacock, a former Anheuser-Busch executive, seemed almost eager to address both topics during an hour-long presentation and news conference.

“We have a sense of urgency,” Peacock said. “But I can tell you, San Diego’s been slogging away for years trying to get a stadium and has not been able to achieve it. The Minneapolis project took several years. Atlanta. San Francisco.

“If we are actually able to raise the financing and start a project in 2016 based on where we started, this would be lightning speed in the stadium world relative to what’s been done at other places.

“So I don’t necessarily buy the too little, too late. Because if you also read the NFL bylaws, they’re very clear that they don’t have a time parameter associated with them. They basically say that the team has to exhaust all of its opportunities in the local market before it can move, and that no team can move just for the opportunity to make more money. I believe in those NFL bylaws.”

Although the Rams have said next to nothing during the entire stadium process, the team’s statement in response to Friday’s unveiling of the stadium plan spoke volumes. It read in part:

“The St. Louis Rams have worked for many years, with several agencies and commissions, and their senior management, responsible for stadium facilities in St. Louis. This includes multiple discussions with the Governor (Jay Nixon)’s recently formed NFL Task Force (Peacock and Blitz) ...”

It may sound like bureaucratic jibberish at face value, but the underlying point is that the Rams want it known that they’ve been working hard at a stadium solution for “many years” with no success. While also pointing out that the task force is “recently formed.”

It’s a message designed as much for the league office and the 31 other franchise owners as it is for St. Louis. And those franchise owners could be voting on relocation as early as spring 2016.

Meanwhile, as of Monday, Rams owner Stan Kroenke has already reached an agreement to build a stadium in Inglewood, Calif., not far from the Los Angeles airport.

As this scenario unfolds, the Rams’ argument at league meetings and behind the scenes is expected to include questions about the “sense of urgency” by St. Louis. One question that may have already been posed by the Rams in league circles: Why wasn’t this task force formed after the arbitration decision in January 2013?

(That decision favored the Rams’ estimated $700 million proposal to upgrade the Edward Jones Dome.)

Peacock said Friday he has been working on the stadium project “off and on” for more than a year, and has been doing intensive work over the past three months.

Providing examples of the level of activity, Peacock said there was a meeting with league officials in November shortly after the formation of the task force. He said there have also been meetings that involved both Rams and NFL officials together, as well as what he called “constant contact” with both entities.

Peacock also confirmed what previously had been reported through sources, namely, that Kroenke had yet to meet directly with the task force.

“I have not met, nor has Bob met Stan,” Peacock said. “I’m sure he’s seen these (stadium plans) because they’ve been shared early on in the process. I don’t know the impact or his reaction, because we haven’t met with him.”

It should be noted that Peacock said he has yet to meet formally with NFL commissioner Roger Goodell so far in this process.

“I’m sure we’ll meet with Stan Kroenke when the time is right,” Peacock said. “His representatives have represented him well. At the same time we’re dealing with the right people at the league and we’ve been given, I’d say, the right level of support to continue on our path.”

As for the question of business and corporate support, the NFL relocation guidelines specify that a team requesting to move must demonstrate it has exhausted all opportunities to be successful in its market. A perceived lack of corporate support is an area the Rams are expected to attack as battle lines are drawn in the team’s increasingly apparent attempts to relocate.

“I like to deal in fact and data,” Peacock said. “The facts are half of the NFL teams play in cities with less Fortune 1000 companies than St. Louis has. We have seven of the top 200 private companies in the country.

“From just an economic standpoint, about 13 teams play in cities with a smaller GDP, if you will, or economy, than St. Louis. So it’s hard for me to say we don’t have the business support or the capability of business support.”

This, IMO, is basically going to be the Rams' counter to any attempt at an argument they didn't negotiate in good faith.

 

[RamFan503]

In case you were wondering here's the vid from the security camera.

Paulie throws a mean overhand slap. Not sure about CGI's defense though.

 

[RamFan503]

Lol you wish. You get beat and abused by everyone but keep fighting for the District. Your also a nice piece of ass and all the boys crave your attention.

You also have a thing for guys who give you bread.....odd turn on I must say....

Me thinks you've thought about this a bit too much.

 

[mr.stlouis]

Well I've seen a lot of jokes on Florio flying around. I read a couple of articles pertaining to his take on the stadium situation. His message is clear in those writings. That message is "Rams are going to LA and here is my speculation as to why..." He has no problem with speculating on the matter and it's very "Rams to LA" oriented.

Of course I can't say he's wrong just like he can't say I or you are wrong in our own belief on the situation. I'm just dissappointed that he makes big money off of writing journalistic garbage that is far from being suobjective. In fact, it's quite the opposite. It is clear that there is a rather aggressive "Rams to LA" bandwagon within the media and their numbers are far more than a pro STL realist, like Shane G.

But shoot, it's only the media and they know "Rams to LA" has been a storyline that has gotten a ton of attention for several years now. That's the real reason guys like Florio have no problem in jumping the gun on this issue.

Last I checked, it's not the media that gets stadiums built. Their goal is to make money just like any other job. "Rams to LA" makes them more money than "Saved by the mighty Peacock." That's the facts of it. The facts the media present interest me, not private agendas or knee jerk news articles like the ones Florio writes.

 

[Tron]

Me thinks you've thought about this a bit too much.

You shut your mouth when you're talking to me!!!

 

[MrMotes]

Well I've seen a lot of jokes on Florio flying around. I read a couple of articles pertaining to his take on the stadium situation. His message is clear in those writings. That message is "Rams are going to LA and here is my speculation as to why..." He has no problem with speculating on the matter and it's very "Rams to LA" oriented.

Of course I can't say he's wrong just like he can't say I or you are wrong in our own belief on the situation. I'm just dissappointed that he makes big money off of writing journalistic garbage that is far from being suobjective. In fact, it's quite the opposite. It is clear that there is a rather aggressive "Rams to LA" bandwagon within the media and their numbers are far more than a pro STL realist, like Shane G.

But shoot, it's only the media and they know "Rams to LA" has been a storyline that has gotten a ton of attention for several years now. That's the real reason guys like Florio have no problem in jumping the gun on this issue.

Last I checked, it's not the media that gets stadiums built. Their goal is to make money just like any other job. "Rams to LA" makes them more money than "Saved by the mighty Peacock." That's the facts of it. The facts the media present interest me, not private agendas or knee jerk news articles like the ones Florio writes.

You should check out JT's latest. He thinks the Rams intent to move is real and i'm starting to think so too...

 

[Boffo97]

You shut your mouth when you're talking to me!!!

Mmmhmm hmmm! Hmmm mmm hmmm!

 

[mr.stlouis]

You should check out JT's latest. He thinks the Rams intent to move is real and i'm starting to think so too...

JT has been a negative Nancy for some time. He is the one who asked Fisher "Do you have a chance" before the Denver game.

But like I said about Florio, I don't have evidence to say he's wrong just like he couldn't prove me wrong.

We just have to deal with these guys until the stadium solution is settled either way.

Do you mind posting a link to what he's talking about? I am curious, but I will try to find some of it myself.

 

[MrMotes]

JT has been a negative Nancy for some time. He is the one who asked Fisher "Do you have a chance" before the Denver game.

But like I said about Florio, I don't have evidence to say he's wrong just like he couldn't prove me wrong.

We just have to deal with these guys until the stadium solution is settled either way.

Do you mind posting a link to what he's talking about? I am curious, but I will try to find some of it myself.

http://www.stltoday.com/sports/foot...cle_7e2fb1d3-e88c-5e7d-8317-60fc286b74dc.html

It was on page 16 of this thread. I've always figured it was just as likely Kroenke was using L.A. as leverage as it was he actually intended to move. But now, especially with JT pretty much coming out and saying it, after he'd been so careful on the subject for so long, i think it's pretty likely SK really does intend to move...

 

[Prime Time]

Well I've seen a lot of jokes on Florio flying around. I read a couple of articles pertaining to his take on the stadium situation. His message is clear in those writings. That message is "Rams are going to LA and here is my speculation as to why..." He has no problem with speculating on the matter and it's very "Rams to LA" oriented.

Of course I can't say he's wrong just like he can't say I or you are wrong in our own belief on the situation. I'm just dissappointed that he makes big money off of writing journalistic garbage that is far from being suobjective. In fact, it's quite the opposite. It is clear that there is a rather aggressive "Rams to LA" bandwagon within the media and their numbers are far more than a pro STL realist, like Shane G.

But shoot, it's only the media and they know "Rams to LA" has been a storyline that has gotten a ton of attention for several years now. That's the real reason guys like Florio have no problem in jumping the gun on this issue.

Last I checked, it's not the media that gets stadiums built. Their goal is to make money just like any other job. "Rams to LA" makes them more money than "Saved by the mighty Peacock." That's the facts of it. The facts the media present interest me, not private agendas or knee jerk news articles like the ones Florio writes.

PFT has always come in handy for us Cut/Paste folks. No site keeps the NFL news coming quicker. That said it isn't called "Rumors" for nothing. Florio began going off the rails once he teamed up with NBC and became big time.

I like him for the most part except when he inserts his social engineering philosophies into NFL stories(trying to shame the Redskins into changing their name is just one recent example).

The 'Rams to LA' is a more glamorous story than the 'Rams stay in St. Louis.' It's really only about generating more clicks.

 

[Corbin]

Maybe it will be different now that the rules are clear.

We can now post about the issue on this thread, but it has to be be presented with respect and tact.

One can always go to Rams Talk to bash LA or STL. Of course I am an exception to that because I got banned from there. Every topic over there is like opening a fresh can of worms. That's why ROD is the diamond in the goats rear of Ram forums.

Yeah like that we can at least discuss it now...

Dont really get this comment. Thats the point of this thread being stickied, everything can be discussed in one thread ( new STL stadium, LA stadium, relocation, no relocation, whatever) and there has been some great discussion on everything so far.

When I made the comment it had it's own thread, comment was anticipating the move/L.A. comments etc.

Well, I know I'm a tad biased, however, I would hope there would be urinals in any stadium and I don't think people will be cursing Kroenke when they are utilizing the urinal because like they chant at Austin Peay University...Let's Go Pee!

wtf? let's go pee? lol where is that located at?