McShay Mocks Us Ty Simpson At 13

[Loyal]

Snead didn't exactly say that. That's just how many fans took it.

Snead said that while they have Matthew, they probably will lean a little more towards maximizing the present versus building for the future. He said that percentage could be 51/49, 60/40, etc. He implied a little lean towards maximizing Stafford, not a full tilt where the whole focus of free agency and the draft is for the present.

It depends on what we interpret being "All In" to mean.

 

[DzRams]

It depends on what we interpret being "All In" to mean.

I don't think Snead was the one who used the term "All In." Did he?

 

[PhillyRam]

You could look at it this way IF the Rams can trade back 5 or 6 spots, meaning the Jets pass on Simpson, they get an extra 3rd and maybe a 5th, then draft Simpson.

So then that opens up the chances to still address CB or WR or both with an acquired pick or picks, and still draft Simpson.

So would it be that bad to draft Simpson and WR Malachi Fields with an acquired pick, instead of just taking Lemon at 13? And I really like Lemon, but you can still add a serious weapon for next year, and still get Simpson for the future, even if he is a reach. And as has been mentioned, you get your future QB without mortgaging a bunch of future picks.

 

[duanevalle22]

I don't think Snead was the one who used the term "All In." Did he?

They (Snead and McVay) used the term run it back in 2022 after our Super Bowl win, but let 13-15 key Rams players go right after that, and marched to a 5-12 record the following season...................... So who really knows what they mean

 

[Allen2McVay]

They (Snead and McVay) used the term run it back in 2022 after our Super Bowl win, but let 13-15 key Rams players go right after that, and marched to a 5-12 record the following season...................... So who really knows what they mean

This is an example of why you get abused here. You state things as facts that are simply not accurate.

The above statement is simply not true.

17 of the 22 starters from 2021 returned in 2022.
Corbett and Williams were free agents that left for weaker teams that could over-pay them.
Miller also left via free agency despite the Rams making an excellent offer.
Woods, coming-off a knee injury was not re-signed; and, Whitworth retired.

You also failed to mention the ridiculous number of games the starters missed due to injuries in 2022.
Stafford, Donald and Kupp combined to miss 22 games, and all ended the season on IR.

Only three starters on Offense started more than 11 games.
Every D-Line starter missed 5-7 games.

The OL starters missed a total of 38 games due to injury, with only Havenstein playing more than 13 games.
The Rams needed to sign three vet OL (Aboushi, Nseke and Skura ... all essentially retired and on-the-street); and those three guys started 20 games.

These are not opinions, these are facts. You can look it up,

You state things that are not accurate; and some posters may accept these things ... and ... That's not OK.

If you are going to throw shit out there, posters who know your comments are inaccurate will respond.

 

[OldSchool]

This is an example of why you get abused here. You state things as facts that are simply not accurate.

The above statement is simply not true.

17 of the 22 starters from 2021 returned in 2022.
Corbett and Williams were free agents that left for weaker teams that could over-pay them.
Miller also left via free agency despite the Rams making an excellent offer.
Woods, coming-off a knee injury was not re-signed; and, Whitworth retired.

You also failed to mention the ridiculous number of games the starters missed due to injuries in 2022.
Stafford, Donald and Kupp combined to miss 22 games, and all ended the season on IR.

Only three starters on Offense started more than 11 games.
Every D-Line starter missed 5-7 games.

The OL starters missed a total of 38 games due to injury, with only Havenstein playing more than 13 games.
The Rams needed to sign three vet OL (Aboushi, Nseke and Skura ... all essentially retired and on-the-street); and those three guys started 20 games.

These are not opinions, these are facts. You can look it up

If you are going to throw shit out there, posters who know your comments are inaccurate will respond.

I applaud your post but you spend too much time replying to him he's shown us too many times he's not worth the effort.

 

[Allen2McVay]

I applaud your post but you spend too much time replying to him he's shown us too many times he's not worth the effort.

... and ...

 

[duanevalle22]

You could look at it this way IF the Rams can trade back 5 or 6 spots, meaning the Jets pass on Simpson, they get an extra 3rd and maybe a 5th, then draft Simpson.

So then that opens up the chances to still address CB or WR or both with an acquired pick or picks, and still draft Simpson.

So would it be that bad to draft Simpson and WR Malachi Fields with an acquired pick, instead of just taking Lemon at 13? And I really like Lemon, but you can still add a serious weapon for next year, and still get Simpson for the future, even if he is a reach. And as has been mentioned, you get your future QB without mortgaging a bunch of future picks.

I don't think Simpson is the guy. Though he is good but if you can get to the 8 spot, maybe give some more to get to the 1 spot and get the blue chip.

 

[Flatlyner]

Raiders are not giving up that #1 pick

And IF they were to be willing to trade it, the Jets have far more ammo to do the trade and LVR only moves down 1. Sincerely doubt they do, but I personally think they should. They are a disaster and need much more then a QB. He will be set up to fail with a bad line, bad WR's, and a horrendous defense. I'd trade down to the highest bidder and bet on next seasons QB class with tons of ammo.

 

[Coliseum Ram]

For the record OP didn't do anybody favors by not including what McShay actually said about this possible draft pick. Including more than a screenshot to give some context would have helped a lot.


“So, I put him at 13 in this (latest) mock draft. As of right now, I don’t think that’s going to happen, but wait for it. I’ve been doing this for two and a half decades, as we get closer and without other (elite) quarterbacks, somebody’s going to rise, and I could see Ty winning over a lot of coaches in those (Combine) meetings.”

So he put him there thinking it doesn't happen but speculates that as the process advances he'll win teams including the Rams over.

As i stated, i couldn't access the entire article due to subscription restriction. Point well taken. Nonetheless, McShay, who is a known good evaluator of College Quarterbacks said what he said.

Its a mock, not gospel.

 

[den-the-coach]

Fuck that shit. Simpson is not a blue chip talent, and I'd be upset if he was the pick at #13 over many of the talented receivers, corners, or edge rushers out there.

I concur here I don’t see it. Sure he’s smart has a good arm and is affable. Sean Manion had those attributes too and knew where the sun rose and set. Now he’s a football coach.

 

[WestCoastRam]

So, Rams were in a good position to get a top rated QB in this upcomng draft since they have the two #1 draft pics to work with. Apparently, there is not really a top QB worthy other than Mendoza, who's going to the Raiders.

Now what? Should Rams look to draft a QB in the following draft in 2027 instead? If yes, then shouldn't the Rams do something to end up with two #1 picks in 2027 as they have now for 2026. I am afraid if we don't have two #1 picks in 2027, and win the Super Bowl this coming season, we are not going to have a shot a getting that stud QB this draft or next. The Rams may be doomed if it goes that way.

Maybe signing a free agent qb or trading for a QB is the way the Rams will have to deal with post-Stafford.

Rams need a top-rated QB after Stafford. It's the majority of the Super Bowl winners...they have that top QB (Mahomes, Brady, etc.).

Love to get a 2027 1st but we better have a backup plan cause we don't have a ton of control over that happening.

 

[rdlkgliders]

I would not be a fan of this

 

[Ram Ts]

This is an example of why you get abused here. You state things as facts that are simply not accurate.

The above statement is simply not true.

17 of the 22 starters from 2021 returned in 2022.
Corbett and Williams were free agents that left for weaker teams that could over-pay them.
Miller also left via free agency despite the Rams making an excellent offer.
Woods, coming-off a knee injury was not re-signed; and, Whitworth retired.

You also failed to mention the ridiculous number of games the starters missed due to injuries in 2022.
Stafford, Donald and Kupp combined to miss 22 games, and all ended the season on IR.

Only three starters on Offense started more than 11 games.
Every D-Line starter missed 5-7 games.

The OL starters missed a total of 38 games due to injury, with only Havenstein playing more than 13 games.
The Rams needed to sign three vet OL (Aboushi, Nseke and Skura ... all essentially retired and on-the-street); and those three guys started 20 games.

These are not opinions, these are facts. You can look it up,

You state things that are not accurate; and some posters may accept these things ... and ... That's not OK.

If you are going to throw shit out there, posters who know your comments are inaccurate will respond.

‘Loud & wrong’ - what a combination

 

[Merlin]

Seems to me there is a bit of a drop off after the first 15 or so players. I'd rather they trade up to get the guy they want as opposed to trading back

Yeah the key is what the Rams think. I've heard it said that pick 5 is the same quality as pick 17 or thereabouts, in this year's draft. I don't stack a board though so no idea how valid that is. But if the Rams see a big dropoff they'll probably use the pick there. Or maybe even move up to get the guy they want.

Personally I'd sit at 13 and use the pick. I want one of those big wideouts or defense. And if a player slides to us and you gotta take him, so be it. Like if Love were to fall for example. Snead said they're in work stacking that top 13 so I'd imagine top dude on the list remaining is the pick.

 

[Memphis Ram]

I thought the point of this year's free agency and draft was to maximize Matthew Stafford and win a Super Bowl?

I would hope that the team doesn't bank on rookies to make next year's run at a Championship. Not a good strategy.

 

[Merlin]

Also and btw where I think the Rams will want to add a pick is in that round 4 range where we don't have one. That's a long ass wait if they don't add something in that range.

 

[OldSchool]

As i stated, i couldn't access the entire article due to subscription restriction. Point well taken. Nonetheless, McShay, who is a known good evaluator of College Quarterbacks said what he said.

Its a mock, not gospel.

I don't have a subscription either.

 

[El Chapo Jr]

 

[duanevalle22]

I would hope that the team doesn't bank on rookies to make next year's run at a Championship. Not a good strategy.

They won't.... we already have a Super Bowl team as is.

I'm hoping for the long shot to make a deal for the #1 pick. But if that doesn't happen I think a WR and maybe a solid OL.