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If Shanahan can put up huge offensive numbers with Garoppolo & Purdy and O'Connell can do so with Darnold (and two of these guys will be free agents and available) why can't McVay put up huge numbers minus a #1 overall selection (Stafford, Goff) at QB?

Do we believe that the former offensive minds mentioned are just better than McVay?
 

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If Shanahan can put up huge offensive numbers with Garoppolo & Purdy and O'Connell can do so with Darnold (and two of these guys will be free agents and available) why can't McVay put up huge numbers minus a #1 overall selection (Stafford, Goff) at QB?

Do we believe that the former offensive minds mentioned are just better than McVay?
We did put up big numbers with Goff
 

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If Shanahan can put up huge offensive numbers with Garoppolo & Purdy and O'Connell can do so with Darnold (and two of these guys will be free agents and available) why can't McVay put up huge numbers minus a #1 overall selection (Stafford, Goff) at QB?

Do we believe that the former offensive minds mentioned are just better than McVay?
And they all crapped the bed when everything was on the line.
 

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The Stafford situation boils down to one thing. Front office wants a one year commitment only and Stafford wants a multiple year guarantee which could hinder us from retaining some of our top players when their rookie deal is up. Unless Stafford is willing to take a reasonable one year deal then I think the team moves on.
 

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If Shanahan can put up huge offensive numbers with Garoppolo & Purdy and O'Connell can do so with Darnold (and two of these guys will be free agents and available) why can't McVay put up huge numbers minus a #1 overall selection (Stafford, Goff) at QB?

Do we believe that the former offensive minds mentioned are just better than McVay?
Shanahan yes. O'Connell about on par.

Gonna get flamed on this one.
 

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The Stafford situation boils down to one thing. Front office wants a one year commitment only and Stafford wants a multiple year guarantee which could hinder us from retaining some of our top players when their rookie deal is up. Unless Stafford is willing to take a reasonable one year deal then I think the team moves on.
Pretty sure McVay wants him for multiple years. This has been said as much by people far more knowledgable than us.
 

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No one wants to hear it but that punt that Stafford threw up to Jaquiski Tartt could qualify for crapping the bed, too. But, Tartt drops that easy INT and the Rams go in to score.
You want to really base everything on "What ifs"

That's a silly slope to slide around on. You can say such things about almost every close game in all sports...

Also Goff looked like dog shit before McVay came in and changed everything. As far as "if" McVay can't coach a QB that's not a #1 draft pick?

That's just funny stuff... Every other team in the league outside like two placed would gladly take McVay from us.
 

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You want to really base everything on "What ifs"

That's a silly slope to slide around on. You can say such things about almost every close game in all sports...

Also Goff looked like dog shit before McVay came in and changed everything. As far as "if" McVay can't coach a QB that's not a #1 draft pick?

That's just funny stuff... Every other team in the league outside like two placed would gladly take McVay from us.
I agree. Things can be said about almost every close game in sports. (Example. If Garoppolo doesn't overthrow Emmanuel Sanders in that Super Bowl, he could be viewed differently). I merely responded to the thought of the other QBs mentioned crapping the bed despite this belief.

Also, I believe you've misinterpreted the thought around my McVay question. I'm not truly questioning if McVay can do it. I believe that he can. I'm questioning if Stafford is the end all of this team having success in 2025.
 

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But it doesn't have to be a valuable as last year's #3. It's still valuable.

I think sometimes we have to look at things from the other team's perspective.

If the Rams didn't have a QB and had the #3 overall selection in a QB weak draft. Would you trade that selection for a 37 year old Matt Stafford who could retire after just one season and pay him a huge contract at that? Quite frankly I wouldn't even consider it.
Especially when you consider there’s a reason why a team is picking #3. Stafford would t even make it a full season with that OL.

The price tag is just too steep for a team that needs too much.
 

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No one wants to hear it but that punt that Stafford threw up to Jaquiski Tartt could qualify for crapping the bed, too. But, Tartt drops that easy INT and the Rams go in to score.
I think the what if argument doesn't hold water. It didn't happen. I can't even remember how many times some defender dropped a INT that would have ended the game. Then the QB throws a TD and wins the game. It happens all the time. Nobody gives a shit unless it happens.
 

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I agree. Things can be said about almost every close game in sports. (Example. If Garoppolo doesn't overthrow Emmanuel Sanders in that Super Bowl, he could be viewed differently). I merely responded to the thought of the other QBs mentioned crapping the bed despite this belief.

Also, I believe you've misinterpreted the thought around my McVay question. I'm not truly questioning if McVay can do it. I believe that he can. I'm questioning if Stafford is the end all of this team having success in 2025.
I don't believe that trading Stafford ends our Superbowl contention, but that would ultimately depend on what the Rams do in acquiring other talent if they do. There are different ways to win championships. I'm definitely in the boat of Stafford re-signing is the best outcome as long as the price tag doesn't hamper the Rams from signing our young stars to future contracts. If he wants way too much guaranteed, then trade his ass to the highest bidder. I want what is best for the Rams regardless and appreciate everything Stafford has done for us. If this is the end, he brought us a Superbowl which was well worth it. If he comes back, lets go. Regardless of what happens tho, I don't see McVay's highly competitive nature of trying to win a Superbowl going away anytime soon. Maybe in the long run, it'll force him to adapt further in coaching up a young QB. A lot of unknowns for sure so we'll see what ultimately happens.
 

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I think the what if argument doesn't hold water. It didn't happen. I can't even remember how many times some defender dropped a INT that would have ended the game. Then the QB throws a TD and wins the game. It happens all the time. Nobody gives a shit unless it happens.
You're wrong about anyone giving a shit. Just say Tartt to a Whiner fan while wearing Rams gear. Their heads just about explode :laugh1::laugh2:
 

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I think the what if argument doesn't hold water. It didn't happen. I can't even remember how many times some defender dropped a INT that would have ended the game. Then the QB throws a TD and wins the game. It happens all the time. Nobody gives a shit unless it happens.
Regardless of the outcome he crapped the bed on that throw. Of course I'm happy things went the Rams way but to suggest that Stafford didn't crap the bed there because we got the outcome we wanted in the end is disingenuous.
 
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Yeah, I'm not with you on this.

The Rams have been So Entertaining the past two seasons. They almost had the Lions beat in Detroit in 2023; and the Lions should have gone to the Super Bowl. The Rams had the Eagles beat in Philadelphia last month; and the Eagles smoked all their other playoff opponents.

Stafford has played seven post-season games with the Rams; and I think he has been exceptional in all seven.

If Stafford is traded, the Rams take a Huge step-back ... in my opinion.

Having a team, like the Rams have been the past two seasons is not easy, and not common.
I realize the window of opportunity is short but I want to enjoy it a bit longer.
Agreed. I don’t want the Rams to trade Stafford. He’s too valuable to the near future. If they did I’d hope it would be well worth risking the next two seasons for.
 

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I don't believe that trading Stafford ends our Superbowl contention, but that would ultimately depend on what the Rams do in acquiring other talent if they do. There are different ways to win championships. I'm definitely in the boat of Stafford re-signing is the best outcome as long as the price tag doesn't hamper the Rams from signing our young stars to future contracts. If he wants way too much guaranteed, then trade his ass to the highest bidder. I want what is best for the Rams regardless and appreciate everything Stafford has done for us. If this is the end, he brought us a Superbowl which was well worth it. If he comes back, lets go. Regardless of what happens tho, I don't see McVay's highly competitive nature of trying to win a Superbowl going away anytime soon. Maybe in the long run, it'll force him to adapt further in coaching up a young QB. A lot of unknowns for sure so we'll see what ultimately happens.
That's where I am.

This team has a chance with or without Stafford because they have McVay/Snead and have added talent so well the past few seasons. Another good draft class including talent added via a potential Stafford trade and this team should still be in Super Bowl contention with a lesser QB. Especially in the NFC.

My guess is that, if they were honest with themselves, many of the same posters that believe the Rams can't do it without Stafford didn't believe that Hurts could win one before he did it either.