Matthew Stafford Contract Status

[El Chapo Jr]

69 pages… why is that appropriate for what’s going on in this thread?

 

[Elmgrovegnome]

I'm sorry you feel that way, but I'm not dancing at all.

No good QB options in the draft? Really? The only opinion on that which matters in regards to our discussion would be the team that holds the #3 overall selection. I can't speak for you, but I don't have access to what the Giants really believe about this draft class. An interest in Stafford could just be an option. They could also be weighing other options as far as moving up for one of these kids for all we know.

A desperate coach who may not get another shot as a head coach? Possibly. But with all the retreads that have been hired over the years and NFL GMs seeing that he was saddled with Daniel Jones, plus how the organization bungled the Barkley situation, I like his chances. Especially, if he can go elsewhere and have the success he had prior.

The GM? Not so much. But he can't make such or any deal without the owner signing off. An owner who knows that the other team in his city didn't pay anything close to what you are suggesting for another aging veteran QB with a better resume. And one who saw how that worked out. And I'm sure he knows the New York Media roasting him daily would make sure he didn't forget it.

This year's draft. Last year's draft. Any draft. While anything in this world besides God sinning is possible, it is highly unlikely that a 37 year old QB looking to sign a big contract is going to net the #3 overall selection in any draft in the salary cap era. Not without some VERY compromising pictures or some other form of blackmail.

Now you are redirecting. Whatever. I disagree with you. Keep talking if you choose.

 

[Memphis Ram]

Now you are redirecting. Whatever. I disagree with you. Keep talking if you choose.

First I'm dancing. Now I'm redirecting.

Sorry. I don't know what you want. I thought it was already established that we disagreed.

But in closing, I'll let you know that, to date, you are still the only Rams or Giants fan I can find that believes that it would be OK for their team to deal a #3 overall selection in the NFL Draft for a 37 year old QB looking for a big contract.

 

[majrleaged]

This all may be true, but if we are referring to the same podcast interview, Robinson began the Stafford discussion pointing out that there are differing opinions regarding Stafford and the Rams depending upon who he talks to and then went on to provide what he thinks McVay wants.

Again, he may be correct. But, instead of a clear report it sounded like just an opinion to me.

My opinion is the rams and stafford arent talking to the media regarding the negotations and every single report on the subject to this point is an opinion.

There are only 2 peices of news to this point. Mcvay wants clearity and Stafford is playing next year. everything else is speculation.

 

[gogoat1]

We have the quarterback, a proven one, a Super Bowl winner, HOFer IMO already on the roster who wants to be a Ram. He is in good health and should be able to play until he is in his 40s with his style of play. SIGN HIM and get it over with !
He is my perfect type of QB. Pocket passer with a GUN and not afraid to use it. Can run a little if needed.
See, I do not like "run around" quarterbacks in any way . They "take" from your team in the end. It becomes all about them in the end and this is the ultimate team sport (see M Vick) If the quarterback is just going to give up and run for it, receivers are human and will not try as hard, give everything they have to get open. Because they know that fool is just going to run and if they bust their ass to get open when they turn around for the ball it won't be there and now they just need to block.
Get it done McSnead. Build the O line, strong running game and stud receivers and all will be good. Already have the making of a great young defense so we can concentrate on the offense.

 

[bubbaramfan]

All this speculation. Rogers, Darnold, Cousin's, trade to Giants. Trey Lance, Jimmy G. Who next?
Fuck Rogers, Darnold is a Goff repeat for McVay, Jimmy G, Cousin's, meh big downgrades but cheaper

Rams don't seem to be in any hurry, which makes me think they already know they're going to resign Stafford.

 

[RamFanWA]

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Dude - I'm retired and I can't even think about keeping up with this....

 

[WestCoastRam]

This thread is disappointing and shows the hysteria boredom creates.

I would have also accepted the boredom hysteria creates

 

[So Ram]

All this speculation. Rogers, Darnold, Cousin's, trade to Giants. Trey Lance, Jimmy G. Who next?
Fuck Rogers, Darnold is a Goff repeat for McVay, Jimmy G, Cousin's, meh big downgrades but cheaper

Rams don't seem to be in any hurry, which makes me think they already know they're going to resign Stafford.

That’s on Mattew Stafford!!!

You ask Kelly what she wants ? I don’t think there feeling the Love.
Aaron Rogers felt it in Green Bay & wish The Rams could get something like the Packers got in return for him.

Bubba Ram you seem like a Buger King type of guy.Have it your way,but if it’s me.Stafford is GONE!!
How long do you keep going back to this ??
—Kelly started with the Head Injury & for him to retire.Sure seems a long way from retirement 2 years latter.

What do you think MCVAYS THOUGHTS OUR. My guess he won’t have started this whole thing if he didn’t want to move on.It opens up the idea of him being available though ?

 

[dieterbrock]

Plenty of reason to be optimistic but also plenty of reason to be concerned.
Last year was clearly more contentious than how it appeared. And now it’s tricky for the Rams Stafford has been working on a deal paying him an average of 40 mill per year and they have a near 50 mill cap hit in 2025, 50+ mill next year.
So it boils down to what Stafford is looking for.
Performance wise of course the team wants him back but for sure there is a threshold of what they can afford without blowing out the cap down the road

 

[XXXIVwin]

From my POV, I don't quite understand the hand-wringing over this. Yeah, the negotiations might get dragged out longer than McVay would prefer, but both sides clearly want to get it done.

Here's some reassuring quotes from McVay from an Athletic article back on Jan. 23:

“I think sooner than later being able to get that clarity, understanding, clear, open and honest communication. I think there’s a lot of love coming from our part (and) I think there’s a lot of appreciation coming from his part as well. I think a lot sooner than later is an ideal scenario. … Matthew and I have obviously talked. He knows how important he is to me and to our football team. I thought it was a great dialogue....

I know he’s playing really good football. Obviously I love him, love working with him. What he has meant to our football team has been immeasurable in a positive way. …

“The quarterback is always the first thing in mind as it relates to how you move forward with the team. I think he’s playing really good football. Like I said, when we get back (in the office) we will talk about all of those types of things. But I’m sure proud of the body of work, really proud of how he’s played. I think the coolest thing you can say about Matthew is that he shines the brightest on the biggest stages. (When) you look at the seven playoff games he’s played in since he’s been a Ram, he certainly gives you a chance every time you step out on the field. For that I am sure appreciative.”

So from my POV, it's beyond obvious that McVay is VERY motivated to bring Stafford back.

As for Stafford's desire to come back with the Rams, maybe some other poster can help me out (with quotes of positivity from MS) but from what I've seen MS has given multiple indications that his first choice is to remain in LA.

A Stafford quote from the same article:

"Obviously would love to be in L.A., but I don’t know what that is gonna look like.”

Just reading between the lines, I get the sense that MS wants to stay here for at least another year or two, he just wants to be "respected" with a salary that is higher than his 2024 salary of $40 M, which was only 15th in highest Average Annual Value for NFL QB's, and tied with Daniel Jones. Frankly I think Stafford's position is reasonable.

So, yeah, eventually the agents will work it out and MS will stay. He'll get a higher AAV than 40M, but he'll get lower than Dak's ridiculous 60M. The question of course is how and where to meet somewhere in the middle. MS and McVay both want to stay in this marriage, and I don't think either side is dumb enough to let haggling lead to divorce.

 

[TSFH Fan]

The 2018 AD thread got to 142 pages.
Damn. 2018. Time flies.
Anyhow, this thread isn't half way there yet.
Need more angst and hand-wringing, people!

Aaron Donald’s contract situation

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LhI88tg1Gqg

ramsondemand.com

 

[XXXIVwin]

Just for comparison's sake, below is a list of the top 15 QB's in terms of Average Annual Value (AAV) for 2024.

Dak was at the top at 60M, and MS was tied with Daniel Jones at 15th at 40M.

Quite frankly I think MS gave the Rams a discount last year. My "hope" is that MS is looking for a substantial raise but is NOT looking to screw up the Rams' cap by breaking the bank, either.

1. Dak Prescott, Dallas Cowboys: $60 million (4 years, $240 million)

2 (tie). Joe Burrow, Cincinnati Bengals: $55 million (5 years, $275 million)

2 (tie). Trevor Lawrence, Jacksonville Jaguars: $55 million (5 years, $275 million)

2 (tie). Jordan Love, Green Bay Packers: $55 million (4 years, $220 million)

5. Tua Tagovailoa, Miami Dolphins: $53.1 million (4 years, $212.4 million)

6. Jared Goff, Detroit Lions: $53 million (4 years, $212 million)

7. Justin Herbert, Los Angeles Chargers: $52.5 million (5 years, $262.5 million)

8. Lamar Jackson, Baltimore Ravens: $52 million (5 years, $260 million)

9. Jalen Hurts, Philadelphia Eagles: $51 million (5 years, $255 million)

10. Kyler Murray, Arizona Cardinals: $46.1 million (5 years, $230.5 million)

11. Deshaun Watson, Cleveland Browns: $46 million (5 years, $230 million)

12 (tie). Patrick Mahomes, Kansas City Chiefs: $45 million (10 years, $450 million)

12 (tie). Kirk Cousins, Atlanta Falcons: $45 million (4 years, $180 million)

14. Josh Allen, Buffalo Bills: $43 million (6 years, $258 million)

15 (tie). Daniel Jones, New York Giants: $40 million (4 years, $160 million)

15 (tie). Matthew Stafford, Los Angeles Rams: $40 million (4 years, $160 million)

 

[OldSchool]

Just for comparison's sake, below is a list of the top 15 QB's in terms of Average Annual Value (AAV) for 2024.

Dak was at the top at 60M, and MS was tied with Daniel Jones at 15th at 40M.

Quite frankly I think MS gave the Rams a discount last year. My "hope" is that MS is looking for a substantial raise but is NOT looking to screw up the Rams' cap by breaking the bank, either.

1. Dak Prescott, Dallas Cowboys: $60 million (4 years, $240 million)

2 (tie). Joe Burrow, Cincinnati Bengals: $55 million (5 years, $275 million)

2 (tie). Trevor Lawrence, Jacksonville Jaguars: $55 million (5 years, $275 million)

2 (tie). Jordan Love, Green Bay Packers: $55 million (4 years, $220 million)

5. Tua Tagovailoa, Miami Dolphins: $53.1 million (4 years, $212.4 million)

6. Jared Goff, Detroit Lions: $53 million (4 years, $212 million)

7. Justin Herbert, Los Angeles Chargers: $52.5 million (5 years, $262.5 million)

8. Lamar Jackson, Baltimore Ravens: $52 million (5 years, $260 million)

9. Jalen Hurts, Philadelphia Eagles: $51 million (5 years, $255 million)

10. Kyler Murray, Arizona Cardinals: $46.1 million (5 years, $230.5 million)

11. Deshaun Watson, Cleveland Browns: $46 million (5 years, $230 million)

12 (tie). Patrick Mahomes, Kansas City Chiefs: $45 million (10 years, $450 million)

12 (tie). Kirk Cousins, Atlanta Falcons: $45 million (4 years, $180 million)

14. Josh Allen, Buffalo Bills: $43 million (6 years, $258 million)

15 (tie). Daniel Jones, New York Giants: $40 million (4 years, $160 million)

15 (tie). Matthew Stafford, Los Angeles Rams: $40 million (4 years, $160 million)

Only 3 of the 10 on serious playoff teams in Love, Goff and Jackson. Burrow could be in that group if he could stay healthy and they built a defense. Herbert likewise if he and Harbs can defeat the San Diego curse.

A team has to find that happy balance with paying their most important position and building a team. I and a few others have mentioned before that if the Rams get to be truly successful we'll see more of our draft picks leave the team for bigger paydays on the 2nd contract though we have to keep drafting well not like the 2021 draft.

 

[TSFH Fan]

Just for comparison's sake, below is a list of the top 15 QB's in terms of Average Annual Value (AAV) for 2024.

Dak was at the top at 60M, and MS was tied with Daniel Jones at 15th at 40M.

Quite frankly I think MS gave the Rams a discount last year. My "hope" is that MS is looking for a substantial raise but is NOT looking to screw up the Rams' cap by breaking the bank, either.

1. Dak Prescott, Dallas Cowboys: $60 million (4 years, $240 million)

2 (tie). Joe Burrow, Cincinnati Bengals: $55 million (5 years, $275 million)

2 (tie). Trevor Lawrence, Jacksonville Jaguars: $55 million (5 years, $275 million)

2 (tie). Jordan Love, Green Bay Packers: $55 million (4 years, $220 million)

5. Tua Tagovailoa, Miami Dolphins: $53.1 million (4 years, $212.4 million)

6. Jared Goff, Detroit Lions: $53 million (4 years, $212 million)

7. Justin Herbert, Los Angeles Chargers: $52.5 million (5 years, $262.5 million)

8. Lamar Jackson, Baltimore Ravens: $52 million (5 years, $260 million)

9. Jalen Hurts, Philadelphia Eagles: $51 million (5 years, $255 million)

10. Kyler Murray, Arizona Cardinals: $46.1 million (5 years, $230.5 million)

11. Deshaun Watson, Cleveland Browns: $46 million (5 years, $230 million)

12 (tie). Patrick Mahomes, Kansas City Chiefs: $45 million (10 years, $450 million)

12 (tie). Kirk Cousins, Atlanta Falcons: $45 million (4 years, $180 million)

14. Josh Allen, Buffalo Bills: $43 million (6 years, $258 million)

15 (tie). Daniel Jones, New York Giants: $40 million (4 years, $160 million)

15 (tie). Matthew Stafford, Los Angeles Rams: $40 million (4 years, $160 million)

The proverbial 500 pound gorilla in the room (TBD) - Brock Purdy.
So, can Matthew accept less money than Purdy? Should he? Just throwing it out there!

I feel like I'm going to be bit in the ass for calling for Purdy to get 60M/year.

 

[WestCoastRam]

Just for comparison's sake, below is a list of the top 15 QB's in terms of Average Annual Value (AAV) for 2024.

Dak was at the top at 60M, and MS was tied with Daniel Jones at 15th at 40M.

Quite frankly I think MS gave the Rams a discount last year. My "hope" is that MS is looking for a substantial raise but is NOT looking to screw up the Rams' cap by breaking the bank, either.

1. Dak Prescott, Dallas Cowboys: $60 million (4 years, $240 million)

2 (tie). Joe Burrow, Cincinnati Bengals: $55 million (5 years, $275 million)

2 (tie). Trevor Lawrence, Jacksonville Jaguars: $55 million (5 years, $275 million)

2 (tie). Jordan Love, Green Bay Packers: $55 million (4 years, $220 million)

5. Tua Tagovailoa, Miami Dolphins: $53.1 million (4 years, $212.4 million)

6. Jared Goff, Detroit Lions: $53 million (4 years, $212 million)

7. Justin Herbert, Los Angeles Chargers: $52.5 million (5 years, $262.5 million)

8. Lamar Jackson, Baltimore Ravens: $52 million (5 years, $260 million)

9. Jalen Hurts, Philadelphia Eagles: $51 million (5 years, $255 million)

10. Kyler Murray, Arizona Cardinals: $46.1 million (5 years, $230.5 million)

11. Deshaun Watson, Cleveland Browns: $46 million (5 years, $230 million)

12 (tie). Patrick Mahomes, Kansas City Chiefs: $45 million (10 years, $450 million)

12 (tie). Kirk Cousins, Atlanta Falcons: $45 million (4 years, $180 million)

14. Josh Allen, Buffalo Bills: $43 million (6 years, $258 million)

15 (tie). Daniel Jones, New York Giants: $40 million (4 years, $160 million)

15 (tie). Matthew Stafford, Los Angeles Rams: $40 million (4 years, $160 million)

I don't see how you at least don't pay him north of Tua's average (and that's taking into account that the cap is going up).

 

[DzRams]

Only 3 of the 10 on serious playoff teams in Love, Goff and Jackson. Burrow could be in that group if he could stay healthy and they built a defense. Herbert likewise if he and Harbs can defeat the San Diego curse.

A team has to find that happy balance with paying their most important position and building a team. I and a few others have mentioned before that if the Rams get to be truly successful we'll see more of our draft picks leave the team for bigger paydays on the 2nd contract though we have to keep drafting well not like the 2021 draft.

Hurts? Did you miss Hurts or did I miss something?

 

[Allen2McVay]

From my POV, I don't quite understand the hand-wringing over this. Yeah, the negotiations might get dragged out longer than McVay would prefer, but both sides clearly want to get it done.

Here's some reassuring quotes from McVay from an Athletic article back on Jan. 23:

“I think sooner than later being able to get that clarity, understanding, clear, open and honest communication. I think there’s a lot of love coming from our part (and) I think there’s a lot of appreciation coming from his part as well. I think a lot sooner than later is an ideal scenario. … Matthew and I have obviously talked. He knows how important he is to me and to our football team. I thought it was a great dialogue....

I know he’s playing really good football. Obviously I love him, love working with him. What he has meant to our football team has been immeasurable in a positive way. …

“The quarterback is always the first thing in mind as it relates to how you move forward with the team. I think he’s playing really good football. Like I said, when we get back (in the office) we will talk about all of those types of things. But I’m sure proud of the body of work, really proud of how he’s played. I think the coolest thing you can say about Matthew is that he shines the brightest on the biggest stages. (When) you look at the seven playoff games he’s played in since he’s been a Ram, he certainly gives you a chance every time you step out on the field. For that I am sure appreciative.”

So from my POV, it's beyond obvious that McVay is VERY motivated to bring Stafford back.

As for Stafford's desire to come back with the Rams, maybe some other poster can help me out (with quotes of positivity from MS) but from what I've seen MS has given multiple indications that his first choice is to remain in LA.

A Stafford quote from the same article:

"Obviously would love to be in L.A., but I don’t know what that is gonna look like.”

Just reading between the lines, I get the sense that MS wants to stay here for at least another year or two, he just wants to be "respected" with a salary that is higher than his 2024 salary of $40 M, which was only 15th in highest Average Annual Value for NFL QB's, and tied with Daniel Jones. Frankly I think Stafford's position is reasonable.

So, yeah, eventually the agents will work it out and MS will stay. He'll get a higher AAV than 40M, but he'll get lower than Dak's ridiculous 60M. The question of course is how and where to meet somewhere in the middle. MS and McVay both want to stay in this marriage, and I don't think either side is dumb enough to let haggling lead to divorce.

OK Mister! ... Who do you think you are?!?
You can take your mature, well-reasoned and sound perspective, reflecting knowledge, experience and common sense, backed by facts, detail and good judgement ... and Stick 'Em!!!

We are 70 pages in on silliness and kooky-town! ... and it's not-your-place to stop the madness!!!

 

[OldSchool]

Hurts? Did you miss Hurts or did I miss something?

No but I missed him on the list.

 

[PhillyRam]

This thread is disappointing and shows the hysteria boredom creates.

It's the offseason and this is a huge issue... I mean, what are we supposed to discuss... helmet history? Cm'on.