Matthew Stafford Contract Status

[Ram_Rally]

I don't see how you at least don't pay him north of Tua's average (and that's taking into account that the cap is going up).

His age has to play a factor, right?

 

[PhillyRam]

I don't see how you at least don't pay him north of Tua's average (and that's taking into account that the cap is going up).

Umm....do you see what Tua's cap number is doing to Miami?

 

[Jacobarch]

It's the offseason and this is a huge issue... I mean, what are we supposed to discuss... helmet history? Cm'on.

I dunno... Maybe touch grass?

 

[WestCoastRam]

His age has to play a factor, right?

I doubt it. And I doubt Stafford will give a discount due to his age.

 

[WestCoastRam]

Umm....do you see what Tua's cap number is doing to Miami?

I mean, I think Stafford and his team are gonna want 50 plus. What can I say.

Also, cap go up. Money printer go vroom. It's not great but not end of world.

 

[DzRams]

Umm....do you see what Tua's cap number is doing to Miami?

Maybe Miami shouldn't have extended Tua, but Stafford is much better right?

 

[dieterbrock]

His AAV is 40 mill but his cash is 27 mill this year and 31 next year.
So here’s where I can see an issue. Let’s say he wants 50 mill guaranteed for the next 2 years.
If that’s based off his AAV, that’s an additional 20 mill, which is manageable.
If he wants it in guaranteed cash, that’s 42 mill and that would be a big problem.

 

[Elmgrovegnome]

First I'm dancing. Now I'm redirecting.

Sorry. I don't know what you want. I thought it was already established that we disagreed.

But in closing, I'll let you know that, to date, you are still the only Rams or Giants fan I can find that believes that it would be OK for their team to deal a #3 overall selection in the NFL Draft for a 37 year old QB looking for a big contract.

If You or I knew what the Giants think, or what the Rams think, then there would be know discussing this topic. If we all knew what these teams think we wouldn’t have much to talk about.

You and I are discussing what we think the Giants should do. It’s our opinions. You can’t redirect into, “Well you don’t know what the Giants think.” You are changing the entire conversation. None of us are mind readers.

 

[Elmgrovegnome]

First I'm dancing. Now I'm redirecting.

Sorry. I don't know what you want. I thought it was already established that we disagreed.

But in closing, I'll let you know that, to date, you are still the only Rams or Giants fan I can find that believes that it would be OK for their team to deal a #3 overall selection in the NFL Draft for a 37 year old QB looking for a big contract.

And being the only fan that thinks this does not make me right or wrong. It’s just opinions and for GMs it’s decisions. If I’m in Joe Shoen’s and Brian Daboll’s position with this upcoming draft, I’m offering the number three pick for Stafford. If I don’t I’m likely out of a job anyway, if I do and the Giants have a winning season I just saved our jobs.

 

[CGI_Ram]

This thread is disappointing and shows the hysteria boredom creates.

I find this thread super entertaining!

 

[CGI_Ram]

Just for comparison's sake, below is a list of the top 15 QB's in terms of Average Annual Value (AAV) for 2024.

Dak was at the top at 60M, and MS was tied with Daniel Jones at 15th at 40M.

Quite frankly I think MS gave the Rams a discount last year. My "hope" is that MS is looking for a substantial raise but is NOT looking to screw up the Rams' cap by breaking the bank, either.

1. Dak Prescott, Dallas Cowboys: $60 million (4 years, $240 million)

2 (tie). Joe Burrow, Cincinnati Bengals: $55 million (5 years, $275 million)

2 (tie). Trevor Lawrence, Jacksonville Jaguars: $55 million (5 years, $275 million)

2 (tie). Jordan Love, Green Bay Packers: $55 million (4 years, $220 million)

5. Tua Tagovailoa, Miami Dolphins: $53.1 million (4 years, $212.4 million)

6. Jared Goff, Detroit Lions: $53 million (4 years, $212 million)

7. Justin Herbert, Los Angeles Chargers: $52.5 million (5 years, $262.5 million)

8. Lamar Jackson, Baltimore Ravens: $52 million (5 years, $260 million)

9. Jalen Hurts, Philadelphia Eagles: $51 million (5 years, $255 million)

10. Kyler Murray, Arizona Cardinals: $46.1 million (5 years, $230.5 million)

11. Deshaun Watson, Cleveland Browns: $46 million (5 years, $230 million)

12 (tie). Patrick Mahomes, Kansas City Chiefs: $45 million (10 years, $450 million)

12 (tie). Kirk Cousins, Atlanta Falcons: $45 million (4 years, $180 million)

14. Josh Allen, Buffalo Bills: $43 million (6 years, $258 million)

15 (tie). Daniel Jones, New York Giants: $40 million (4 years, $160 million)

15 (tie). Matthew Stafford, Los Angeles Rams: $40 million (4 years, $160 million)

I don’t follow the Chiefs, but has Patrick Mahomes expected his contract to be renegotiated every year or so to “keep up with the top QB’s”? I haven’t heard a peep from him, but maybe this is a topic they will be revisiting over the 10yr deal.

 

[CGI_Ram]

The proverbial 500 pound gorilla in the room (TBD) - Brock Purdy.
So, can Matthew accept less money than Purdy? Should he? Just throwing it out there!

I feel like I'm going to be bit in the ass for calling for Purdy to get 60M/year.


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Queue the Mr. Burns gif… The 49’ers find themselves smack in the middle of a Daniel Jones contract situation.

 

[CGI_Ram]

If I’m in Joe Shoen’s and Brian Daboll’s position with this upcoming draft, I’m offering the number three pick for Stafford. If I don’t I’m likely out of a job anyway, if I do and the Giants have a winning season I just saved our jobs.

That’s a very valid point. Stafford might be the only guarantee at QB to save their jobs, assuming everything else goes right.

But, they won’t part with the 3rd overall if they don’t have to, to get him. I don’t think they have to.

 

[Elmgrovegnome]

That’s a very valid point. Stafford might be the only guarantee at QB to save their jobs, assuming everything else goes right.

But, they won’t part with the 3rd overall if they don’t have to, to get him. I don’t think they have to.

If the Rams have a new contract in place with Stafford and want to keep him, then it should take a crazy offer to pry him away.

If the two sides can’t come to an agreement then, yes, they likely get much less. I’m just trusting reports that signing Stafford to a new deal is a priority for the Rams and a deal is getting done.

 

[Merlin]

If Stafford and the Rams cannot work things out, there will be multiple teams lining up to acquire him. There are a lot of teams who will rightly see the upgrade he can provide, teams who are going nowhere until they find a QB and this offseason there aren't many options.

He's no spring chicken. But QB is required to win in this league and he's a good one. Also people will say oh well this team or that team isn't close to winning. Bullshit. Rams were supposedly years away from competing when McVay was hired. Next season they were in the playoffs because he got Goff playing well. Two years ago Houston rose out of nowhere due to hitting on a rookie who can handle the job, last year it was Washington. QB production changes everything.

I look at Pittsburgh and wonder wtf they think they're doing. Wasting a good ass defense with shitbag QB options. Fans say oh well Stafford may only have a year. Well he may just as well have three or four years. That's a contention window for a team like Pittsburgh. So I would guess that if Stafford were to hit the market they'd be the biggest bidder for his services. But hopefully that won't happen.

If it does then we do have the right coach to work another QB up. But keep in mind how frustrated McVay became with a good QB who couldn't get us over the hump in the playoffs. The man has the very highest standards so looking at the options out there all of them are a step backward, which I assume is not something he wants to do. That will only happen if they can't get a deal the owner is good with.

 

[Memphis Ram]

If You or I knew what the Giants think, or what the Rams think, then there would be know discussing this topic. If we all knew what these teams think we wouldn’t have much to talk about.

You and I are discussing what we think the Giants should do. It’s our opinions. You can’t redirect into, “Well you don’t know what the Giants think.” You are changing the entire conversation. None of us are mind readers.

You say that I'm dancing or redirecting, but I was merely responding to statements presented as facts from the Giants perspective.

Look. Our disagreement was well established in our first few exchanges in this thread. Anything else from here is and has been us merely repeating ourselves and now I guess morphing into so-called dancing and redirection. I'm done.

 

[ottoman89]

Honestly, at this point in his career of he wants over $50mil a year, I'd move on. He won't be in a better spot than LA, it'd STING us bad but the Rams still have a bright future, we're not at the ends of our career "desperate" for another championship.

Can't have him take a big piece of the cap and then expect the Rams to help improve around him.

 

[Memphis Ram]

His AAV is 40 mill but his cash is 27 mill this year and 31 next year.
So here’s where I can see an issue. Let’s say he wants 50 mill guaranteed for the next 2 years.
If that’s based off his AAV, that’s an additional 20 mill, which is manageable.
If he wants it in guaranteed cash, that’s 42 mill and that would be a big problem.

That the question for me. Especially for everyone that just says pay the man.

If Stafford's cap number is already at or over $50 million now for the next couple of seasons with his lower current base salary, what will those salary cap figures look like if he's requesting let's say 2 years at $110 million guaranteed? How many void years should or could this team add kicking a massive dead cap hit down the road probably arriving when the young talent comes up for new deals?

And just thinking in terms of 2025, if they don't add that many void years, does that mean that Alaric Jackson absolutely must be re-signed and not franchised giving him the upper hand in negotiations? Overthecap.com has the estimated franchise tag number for OLineman at about $25 million which is a HUGE chunk of what they currently have available.

 

[Allen2McVay]

Honestly, at this point in his career of he wants over $50mil a year, I'd move on. He won't be in a better spot than LA, it'd STING us bad but the Rams still have a bright future, we're not at the ends of our career "desperate" for another championship.

Can't have him take a big piece of the cap and then expect the Rams to help improve around him.

Yeah, I'm not with you on this.

The Rams have been So Entertaining the past two seasons. They almost had the Lions beat in Detroit in 2023; and the Lions should have gone to the Super Bowl. The Rams had the Eagles beat in Philadelphia last month; and the Eagles smoked all their other playoff opponents.

Stafford has played seven post-season games with the Rams; and I think he has been exceptional in all seven.

If Stafford is traded, the Rams take a Huge step-back ... in my opinion.

Having a team, like the Rams have been the past two seasons is not easy, and not common.
I realize the window of opportunity is short but I want to enjoy it a bit longer.

 

[Merlin]

Honestly, at this point in his career of he wants over $50mil a year, I'd move on.

I think this is about Stan and whether he's willing to get it done. I am sure that McVay prefers Stafford for this season and maybe 2026 to try to get another title. He knows that if he can load it around 9 what he'll get.

But I agree with you that there's a point where a team has to draw a line and there's nothing wrong with that. It will suck but there will come a day when Stafford looks back and regrets not "settling" for his measley $40M per year and giving himself his best shot at that second title. He and McVay make a great team, they just need better pieces around him.