Matthew Stafford Contract Status

[Flatlyner]

@Flatlyner adding to dieterbrock's post.

I watched all of Sanders games this year. He's got touch and can make most throws.

Where he completely lacks pro level skills is pocket awareness. He gets lost at times and makes silly decisions. He'll take sacks that make zero sense or hold onto the ball with short to intermediate options open. Some of this can be attributed to coaching, some of it is just a lack of natural instincts.

I'm a CU guy. IMO he's not a day one draft pick, possibly a 3rd round pick as a developmental guy.

Thank you. Appreciate the info!

 

[Merlin]

You are spot on Memento!

Members can hate my post, I'm ok with it. All three have this "Keeping it Real Attitude". Very street and thuggish.

Look up Sanders brothers threatening Texas Tech Ball Boy (college student). You would thought they were in a gang fight and never had opportunities to succeed. Pathetic look for the University. I was hoping Deion would leave to coach Dallas. Rampant stories about their behaviors on CU's campus.

I wouldn't touch Sanders' kid unless he falls significantly in the draft. But then I also never cared for Deion either.

Way I see the QBs it's Cam if you're up high. Round two is Dart though some team may take him late first just to get that fifth year of control and ensure they get the QB they want. Round three is Howard, though his size and upside undoubtedly push him into round two.

Gabriel would be fine late round but this round 2/3 stuff I am seeing on him is nonsense. I like him but no way I'd take him prior to round 5 range.

Milroe and Leonard are runners masquerading as QBs, pass on both.

Ewers always looks like he's shitting his pants in the pocket pass.

Shough can't seem to stay healthy, prefer to pass on him as well.

Henigan I like late round as a QB3 type if they are looking to replace Bennett.

 

[Memento]

Nah, I'll just leave that to you. You can see things most can't from that perch upon the highest horse that ever lived....

I know I'm not better than you or anyone else here. I'm just a better person than Shadeur and Shilo. And I just don't salivate over Hunter.

 

[Elmgrovegnome]

I wouldn't touch Sanders' kid unless he falls significantly in the draft. But then I also never cared for Deion either.

Way I see the QBs it's Cam if you're up high. Round two is Dart though some team may take him late first just to get that fifth year of control and ensure they get the QB they want. Round three is Howard, though his size and upside undoubtedly push him into round two.

Gabriel would be fine late round but this round 2/3 stuff I am seeing on him is nonsense. I like him but no way I'd take him prior to round 5 range.

Milroe and Leonard are runners masquerading as QBs, pass on both.

Ewers always looks like he's shitting his pants in the pocket pass.

Shough can't seem to stay healthy, prefer to pass on him as well.

Henigan I like late round as a QB3 type if they are looking to replace Bennett.

Doesn’t McCord fit somewhere in there? I’d take him ahead of Ewers

 

[PhillyRam]

Yeah, and quite frankly the Giants would never trade away the 3rd overall pick for a one or two year rental of a 37-year-old QB.

Rams could get solid return for MS, but nowhere near the #3 pick.

If it came to that (still hoping they work out a new favorable contract)... I would take a 2 & a 4 this year and a conditional pick next year that could elevate to a 3 or a 2 if he has a good year and or makes the playoffs.

It gives you the option of trading back and getting picks for this year or next year.
You could possibly take a QB like Howard this year if you trade back into round 2 with that early 2. Or trade up with one of your 3rds to pick Howard or move up in rd 1 for Dart, and still have enough picks to fill needs.

 

[Ramhusker]

Get your popcorn ready. No one on this board knows how this will play out.

I do. I’m just not saying.

 

[Loyal]

I like his idea. 1.3 this year and maybe a 2nd or a 3rd. No mention of us giving up 26. That would be some crazy ammo for us. Move down from 3 to get a 1st next year and we are cooking with gas here. Quick re-up on a franchise QB. Stafford could retire next season. If he does that and we retain him this year, we get zero and are frantic to find a guy.

AND he might lead us to another Super Bowl win this year. High draft picks means shyte unless you get lucky. We had a number 1 over all and a 2 over all which resulted in Bradford and Long, neither of which did shyte for us as far as winning Super Bowls. It's all a crap shoot with draft picks when we have as sure of thing as possible with Matthew Stafford. We all have fucking amnesia on this site as far as how bad we were at picking QB's over the years.

 

[den-the-coach]

Doesn’t McCord fit somewhere in there? I’d take him ahead of Ewers

it's a tough call I like McCord, however, he needs to learn how to come off his primary receiver and look for other alternatives instead of taking a sack or forcing the ball to his primary read. Never have been overly impressed by Ewers, but both of the QB's struggle to extend a play if it breaks down, moreover, when I first watched McCord both on video and live, my first thought was Stafford.

 

[PhillyRam]

AND he might lead us to another Super Bowl win this year. High draft picks means shyte unless you get lucky. We had a number 1 over all and a 2 over all which resulted in Bradford and Long, neither of which did shyte for us as far as winning Super Bowls. It's all a crap shoot with draft picks when we have as sure of thing as possible with Matthew Stafford. We all have fucking amnesia on this site as far as how bad we were at picking QB's over the years.

Yeah, if they move on, we just gotta hope they nail their future QB and if they they do, a big IF, they would be in great shape going forward. In 2026 as of right now $90M in cap space. If they move on from Stafford this year you can add $50M more to that. Trading Kupp and taking the entire hit this year, add another $30M.

So they would have a ridiculous amount of cap room to not only extend their own stars, but to go shopping for more help in FA or via trades etc...

Plus, knowing that in terms of extra cap room, you can forfeit a ton of draft picks to go target a QB on the draft. Maybe even taking a few swings.

Let's say they are intrigued by Dart and they use a 3rd to move up in rd 1 this year and take him. Maybe by 26' they are not sold on him and so in next year's draft they can go get another young QB because they will have a ton of cap space to fill their needs.

If they can hit on a QB like Dart or Shough even, they are in great shape be dominant for years from a total roster perspective.

BTW a good video by McShay on Shough and Dart... by the way he mentions that he would love to see either of these guys with McVay.... He also dives into the RBs


View: https://youtu.be/Prgj6gn_pRg?si=iLCLAi-3u3P25RoY

 

[RamsSince1969]

AND he might lead us to another Super Bowl win this year. High draft picks means shyte unless you get lucky. We had a number 1 over all and a 2 over all which resulted in Bradford and Long, neither of which did shyte for us as far as winning Super Bowls. It's all a crap shoot with draft picks when we have as sure of thing as possible with Matthew Stafford. We all have fucking amnesia on this site as far as how bad we were at picking QB's over the years.

Loyal, I'm with you! Stafford is like that reliable 2003 Toyota Matrix XR with all the upgrades, only issue is it has 150,000 miles on it. It could go to at least 300,000 miles and they don't make that model anymore. Trade it in for something newer or keep the reliable car that you know and love? Most reviews of that car, they all regret ever getting rid of it as it was the best car they ever owned. Yes, I own one and plan on keeping it until it quits (Just like I hope Stafford stays with the Rams). The thought of us having a worse used "re-tread" QB like Darnold, who looked like the playoff moment was too big for him, and we still have to pay, it's crazy! Also, his wife (Kelly) influencing the decision is even more wacky. I guess guys have taken a spouse to the office party, drinks too much and she bad mouths the boss in the company of others in the ladies room, but, you don't fire the worker.

 

[WestCoastRam]

I wouldn't touch Sanders' kid unless he falls significantly in the draft. But then I also never cared for Deion either.

Way I see the QBs it's Cam if you're up high. Round two is Dart though some team may take him late first just to get that fifth year of control and ensure they get the QB they want. Round three is Howard, though his size and upside undoubtedly push him into round two.

Gabriel would be fine late round but this round 2/3 stuff I am seeing on him is nonsense. I like him but no way I'd take him prior to round 5 range.

Milroe and Leonard are runners masquerading as QBs, pass on both.

Ewers always looks like he's shitting his pants in the pocket pass.

Shough can't seem to stay healthy, prefer to pass on him as well.

Henigan I like late round as a QB3 type if they are looking to replace Bennett.

Shough seems to be the only one scouts talk about with any excitement.

 

[muggmeister]

I wouldn't touch Sanders' kid unless he falls significantly in the draft. But then I also never cared for Deion either.

Way I see the QBs it's Cam if you're up high. Round two is Dart though some team may take him late first just to get that fifth year of control and ensure they get the QB they want. Round three is Howard, though his size and upside undoubtedly push him into round two.

Gabriel would be fine late round but this round 2/3 stuff I am seeing on him is nonsense. I like him but no way I'd take him prior to round 5 range.

Milroe and Leonard are runners masquerading as QBs, pass on both.

Ewers always looks like he's shitting his pants in the pocket pass.

Shough can't seem to stay healthy, prefer to pass on him as well.

Henigan I like late round as a QB3 type if they are looking to replace Bennett.

In other words, this might down in history as the absolute worst QB draft class ever. I actually wholeheartedly agree with your assessments. If Cam Ward is the best thing it is an absolute shit class. If Milroe is your 3rd, 4th or 5th best prospect then this class is going to be epic(ally bad). Maybe we could revisit this in about 5 years.

 

[ottoman89]

In other words, this might down in history as the absolute worst QB draft class ever. I actually wholeheartedly agree with your assessments. If Cam Ward is the best thing it is an absolute shit class. If Milroe is your 3rd, 4th or 5th best prospect then this class is going to be epic(ally bad). Maybe we could revisit this in about 5 years.

Which is why it'll end up being the best ever lol. Feels like it's always opposite of what the general consensus is.

 

[PhillyRam]

Which is why it'll end up being the best ever lol. Feels like it's always opposite of what the general consensus is.

It comes down to expectations and how these guys are developed. If you sit these guys for a year or so, probably the top 3 or 4 guys will turn out okay. If these guys get thrown to the wolves week one, they all might wash out.

 

[Elmgrovegnome]

it's a tough call I like McCord, however, he needs to learn how to come off his primary receiver and look for other alternatives instead of taking a sack or forcing the ball to his primary read. Never have been overly impressed by Ewers, but both of the QB's struggle to extend a play if it breaks down, moreover, when I first watched McCord both on video and live, my first thought was Stafford.

I don’t recall a lot about McCord. I think I watched him once or twice vs PSU.

Have you seen him this past season? Supposedly he made some improvements.

 

[Memento]

Huge fan of taking Dart with pick #26 if we trade Stafford for a late first and second (for example, the Steelers). I don't think we'll get much more than that.

 

[Memphis Ram]

I can't say that I'm a fan of any QB in this draft class.

If they deal Stafford I think they should go with Garoppolo. And competition would involve either bringing in 25 year old Zack Wilson or trading for Joe Milton.


View: https://youtu.be/JfJfwJbkBAU?si=B7-hpi-rAdBrvg4f


View: https://youtu.be/TjTf2bjeX2w?si=EDvIv7nwv7MUqWKg

 

[Merlin]

In other words, this might down in history as the absolute worst QB draft class ever. I actually wholeheartedly agree with your assessments. If Cam Ward is the best thing it is an absolute shit class. If Milroe is your 3rd, 4th or 5th best prospect then this class is going to be epic(ally bad). Maybe we could revisit this in about 5 years.

I think I would take Cam over Richardson, who went to the Colts a couple years back. But where it's weak is at the top and it makes me wonder how teams will react. We have seen classes where teams don't reach for them up top and classes where they do and get shitty returns. But teams are so desperate for them that it almost feels inevitable.

Dart at 26 makes me wonder what McVay and Snead will do. It's too early for what he is but you get the extra year to cover the redshirt and he's got talent to play as well as has shown good decision making under pressure. It would be a reach which is not ideal. But when will the Rams not need to reach for one of these guys in the draft. The way we win games under McVay I doubt we're ever going to draft up top.

I mean people are all crazy over the Manning draft class next year but Manning hasn't been shit on the actual field. I don't care about raw runner QBs, I want ball distribution at speed to weapons. So idk it's a tough deal. Hopefully we get a TE at 26 but I'm prepared for anything.

 

[OldSchool]

Shough has a ton of talent you just have to be worried about the clavicle injuries. He's broken it twice that seems too much to be a fluke. Also don't care about the age though some people will lose their mind over it.

Also I'm ignoring McShay's comment about how good he'd be with McVay because he says that about all the QB's. He's giving our coach props more than the prospect.

 

[OldSchool]

I'm still all in on Tuten who McShay mentions there. I saw another insane stat with him he averaged 4.18 YAC over his career. How many guys out there with 4.33 speed average 4.18 yards after contact. That's insane.