Matthew Stafford Contract Status

[dieterbrock]

I don’t honestly know - but did he take a home town discount on his first contract? Did he just play under the provisions of his Lions contract? Did the Rams give him a new contract when he came here? QB contracts have really exploded since then. I don’t know where he ranked when we traded for him.

He signed a 4 year 160 mill extension after they won the Super Bowl.
He was lauded as being a good team player and not holding out for top dollar.
And now he’s tried to renegotiate the deal in each of the first 2 years of it

 

[Turducken]

It would have to be the Giants 2nd rounder...not Pittsburgh's.

If Pittsburgh's 2nd, you would have to get another pick this year and a 3rd next year that could elevate to a 2nd.

That wouldn't be nearly enough. I'd want the 34th and 65th plus Dexter Lawrence (with NYG eating three years of his dead money to even our of our dead money with Stafford).

We'd get draft capital with an elite run stuffer at a discount.

 

[PhillyRam]

That wouldn't be nearly enough. I'd want the 34th and 65th plus Dexter Lawrence (with NYG eating three years of his dead money to even our of our dead money with Stafford).

We'd get draft capital with an elite run stuffer at a discount.

He is still a 37 yr old QB, who will command $100M over 2 years. So that impacts what the return will be. Getting 2 top 75 picks and another pick might be the most you get. I can't see a Giant team, who is trying to compete with Stafford, giving away one of their best players.

Plus, not sure why the Rams would want a high paid DT when they have good young DTs and a deep draft in DTs to go get that 330 lb run stuffer.

Remember, in the end this is also a salary dump for the Rams in regards to 26' & 27'. So there is value there as well.

 

[XXXIVwin]

Mayock's take, wearing his GM hat. Kind of lay's out what a compromise should be


View: https://youtu.be/6jAuKD-vwxE?si=NV9ehGWLFvvMb_nI

That Mayock interview wasn't nearly as good as the Breer segment, IMO.

Mayock avoided mentioning actual numbers. And Mayock somehow managed to avoid answering Eisen's direct question TWICE. ("Why would another team negotiate a salary with MS if that might just help the Rams reach a compromise number?")

Sorry but Mayock has always seemed to me a little on the doofy side. Just IMO.

But yeah, I agree with Mayock that MS and the Rams "don't want a divorce" and that there's a strong incentive on both sides to reach a deal.

 

[Ellard80]

Mayock's take, wearing his GM hat. Kind of lay's out what a compromise should be


View: https://youtu.be/6jAuKD-vwxE?si=NV9ehGWLFvvMb_nI

Yeah this is good.... it is interesting also to think why would Stafford want to go to a rebuild.

 

[PhillyRam]

That Mayock interview wasn't nearly as good as the Breer segment, IMO.

Mayock avoided mentioning actual numbers. And Mayock somehow managed to avoid answering Eisen's direct question TWICE. ("Why would another team negotiate a salary with MS if that might just help the Rams reach a compromise number?")

Sorry but Mayock has always seemed to me a little on the doofy side. Just IMO.

Simple answer, if you want Stafford you need to tell his reps what a contract will look like.

This isn't the Price is Right, where the Rams will just top any offer. Obviously they have a limit in their mind or we wouldn't be here right now. If another team wants to exceed that limit and Stafford wants to play there, then we have a trade.

So Eisen's question was kind of dumb and not worth answering as the answer is obvious. Both Stafford's agent and these teams need to know what the money aspect is otherwise you can't make a trade.

 

[El Chapo Jr]

View: https://x.com/AllbrightNFL/status/1894184193266987424]

Ben, I'm blushing

Maybe it is the body wash causing the tingling lol

 

[El Chapo Jr]

All I said was that people blame Stafford or the players in general when money is involved - but actually its often a lot of people around them convincing them money is the most important thing.

I'm just happy his daddy isn't involved or we might be fucked lol

 

[Merlin]

The Rams and Stafford obviously respect each other here and want to make it work. But if they are too far apart and another team is paying their price that can drive the divorce.

This is the risky side of letting the player's representatives talk to teams. Once they know they're ballpark on pay and are willing to go there but the Rams are not, the player may want out.

 

[DzRams]

The Rams and Stafford obviously respect each other here and want to make it work. But if they are too far apart and another team is paying their price that can drive the divorce.

This is the risky side of letting the player's representatives talk to teams. Once they know they're ballpark on pay and are willing to go there but the Rams are not, the player may want out.

That's my general sentiment. I don't recall the Rams closing a player they encouraged to test the market. When Stafford finds out the Steelers are willing to give him $65m but the Rams are reluctant to give him $50m, saying "F you" makes a lot of sense.

 

[Tumak61]

Stafford is pissing me off to be honest. Rams paid him top dollar. He's not chasing rings in my opinion. Chasing money. Trade his ass.

 

[Turducken]

That's my general sentiment. I don't recall the Rams closing a player they encouraged to test the market. When Stafford finds out the Steelers are willing to give him $65m but the Rams are reluctant to give him $50m, saying "F you" makes a lot of sense.

Stafford doesn't have F-U leverage.

If the Rams say that the price of Stafford's contract rights is the value of a median first round pick (e.g., 16th pick) then it doesn't matter what the Steelers would hypothetically pay for Stafford (as if he was a FA).

Before any team can outbid us, they have to meet the Rams minimum demand for a trade. That amount should be high enough that we can live with him leaving.

Otherwise why would you let him talk to another team?

 

[Merlin]

If a casual observer or media type were to look at Matthew Stafford and his production with the Rams without watching every game, they would inevitably think he is an old QB who turns it on in the postseason. Because he has played his best ball down the stretch every season in horns.

But that is not the reality of what has occurred here.

The reality of what has occurred during Stafford's time with the Rams is that he has dealt with an OL that finishes with its best ball every season. This was even true during the Super Bowl season, where the protections were iffy as fuck until around the halfway point, and the OL gelled nicely and started picking up stunts and shit and avoiding free runners to the QB like bosses. And Stafford responded by elevating the team in the biggest moments and bringing LA the hardware.

Since that Super Bowl season the OL has been a fucking dumpster fire or thereabouts to start each season. The post Super Bowl season they never played into form. But the two successive seasons thereafter they did just that and Stafford responded by leading this team to the playoffs and showing an ability to fight above their weight class.

Now once again we all know he's 37. We all know he's got hard miles. We all know he might punch out at any time. We all know teams aren't going to go after him like he's in his prime. But listening to Mayock saying he may be the tenth best QB in this league is really fucking funny to me. Because he is more than that. And what is incredible about this situation is the Rams know the OL has let him down early in seasons, however that still doesn't change the stats when you have the business conversation with his representatives.

What I'm wondering, though, is whether a team like the Steelers realizes that he might be a windfall for them. Because what does it look like if they add a couple pieces for him and keep it balanced and give him a top defense. I would guess you're talking major darkhorse.

Anyway had to get that off my chest. I am realistic in all this, in that I recognize it may be time for him to go. I felt it brewing last year, it wasn't something I ignored completely, rather it stuck in the back of my mind and I thought about it as we saw this OL start out slow once again. But personally I feel like he has carried his side of the bargain since he came over to us. I would pay him. But this is a business so I am not feeling confident in this at all, and if the Rams have already drawn the hard line we will probably be talking trade destinations and who has the best offer with his reps soon.