Matt Stafford Traded to Rams

[kurtfaulk]

I'm sure he had hot GF's before her.

Newsflash: QBs get lots of puss. Even when they are in college well before they sign their big money deals.

No doubt.

But this one seemed different. This one stuck.

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[Ellard80]

Can't remember what game it was late this season, but after a Goff turnover it mistake, he went to the sidelines and I believe O'connell had the iPad up trying to show him something and he completely ignored him and wouldn't look, and that's when I was done with Goff.

it might have been seattle - they were sitting next to each other. O'connel was being calm then got more and more mad and gestured at the microsoft surface. Goff was just kind of staring into space. It was the only time i remember oconnel actually showing frustration - which is why i remember it.

 

[Ellard80]

I'm sure he had hot GF's before her.

Newsflash: QBs get lots of puss. Even when they are in college well before they sign their big money deals.

yeah not buying that reason for why goff wasn't improving

 

[ottoman89]

it might have been seattle - they were sitting next to each other. O'connel was being calm then got more and more mad and gestured at the microsoft surface. Goff was just kind of staring into space. It was the only time i remember oconnel actually showing frustration - which is why i remember it.

May have been it, but I don't think I saw that game perhaps NYJ or SF? Showed that he kind of seemed like a spoiled brat at times. Maybe it happened more than once.

 

[“Turbo set!”]

Looks like Goff is coming across as a laid back California kid. Too laid back.

Trade might light a fire under him. Really surprised at the lack of work ethic if it is true.

He might be a game manager type QB.

 

[IowaRam]

Matthew Stafford, Sean McVay Celebrated Rams Trade With Dinner in Mexico

Stafford, McVay Celebrated Rams Trade With Dinner in Mexico

Stafford and McVay celebrated Saturday's trade during a dinner with their wives in Los Cabos, Mexico, per The MMQB's Albert Breer.

www.si.com

The Rams completed a trade with the Lions to acquire quarterback Matthew Stafford on Saturday, and it didn't exactly take long for Stafford to get acquainted with Los Angeles head coach Sean McVay.

Stafford and McVay reportedly had dinner together shortly after the trade was agreed to on Saturday, according to The MMQB's Albert Breer. As the NFL world reacted to a true blockbuster deal, the new Rams' duo reportedly enjoyed dinner with Stafford’s wife Kelly and McVay’s fiancé Veronika in Los Cabos, Mexico. It's likely Stafford and McVay will dive into some film together in the coming weeks, but on Saturday, more important matters awaited.

"Once the deal was agreed to, some 1,100 miles south of L.A., McVay and Stafford were sitting down for dinner to celebrate a fresh start of their own," Breer wrote on Sunday night. "The coach and his new quarterback happened to be among a number of NFL people in Cabo last week—Saints coach Asshole Face and QB Drew Brees, Rams LT Andrew Whitworth and others were nearby, too, over the last few days."

So how exactly did Stafford and McVay connect so quickly? Kelly Stafford is largely to thank.

McVay is friends with Bills receivers coach Chad Hall, who is Kelly Stafford's brother. The connection led to a friendly relationship between the Staffords and McVay in recent years, and upon the trade's completion, the two couples joined in Cabo to celebrate.

Saturday's celebratory dinner almost didn't come to fruition. Numerous teams were involved in the Stafford sweepstakes, per Breer, including Washington, Carolina, Indianapolis and San Francisco. Both Washington and Carolina reportedly offered its respective 2021 first-round picks, and the Football Team also reportedly offered their 2021 third rounder. But ultimately, Los Angeles provided the greatest haul of picks, bringing Stafford and McVay together for the first of many dinners (and perhaps playoff victories) in the coming years.

 

[Mackeyser]

Hope thats not all true.. but not going to lie - it matches what I saw on the sidelines, from the reaction of mcvay and the whatever his name OC is....

the locker room respected wolford more does seem like a bit of a stretch however...

I dunno. When we look at the sidelines during the Cards game, they were different... energized and when Wolford fought for that 1st down, you'd think they'd just locked down a playoff victory.

Funny because after doing just that in Seattle, we saw none of that energy directed toward Goff.

Yeah, he toughed out a gutty win in Seattle in crappy weather.

I've asked, but not gotten an answer... where were his teammates? Where were folks shouting him up?

The tepid response to Goff's play was STRIKING. It was a huge red flag that everyone not with the org seemed to miss.

But it was there...

 

[Ellard80]

May have been it, but I don't think I saw that game perhaps NYJ or SF? Showed that he kind of seemed like a spoiled brat at times. Maybe it happened more than once.

im not saying he was a spoiled brat or anything.... just that i saw signes of frustration on the sideline.

 

[MachS]

He found that hot girlfriend in 2018 some time before the bears game. He has seemed distracted ever since.

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Weird that she's from Boston right? Any chance you think Belichick implanted her for espionage purposes and shes on the Patriots payroll?? ;-)

 

[Mackeyser]

This is really a fucking cheap shot, especially with him being out the door now, and looks like an attempt to simply smear him to justify the trade. I can believe the mobility thing because, duh, we knew he wasn't a mobile QB in the first place. If the Rams brass suddenly became disappointed with Goff over that, the problem is with them and letting their expectations get in the way of the reality we already knew.

I seriously doubt the locker room respected Wolford more. They were supportive when he had to play, sure, but Goff had done a lot for this team and I don't think they all just suddenly forgot about that.

On accountability, when McVay called him out after the 49er game, Goff agreed with him. And after the Super Bowl loss, he tried to take accountability for that, even though McVay admitted that he himself had been outcoached (and I think that was the bigger problem because he never adjusted to what the Patriots were doing). He's never been one to shy away from accountability.

I can see him being gun shy on taking chances with explosive plays, but then again, when you get Blythed up as often as he did, it probably fucks with your confidence.

Most of this is just a smear using the infamous "unnamed sources" by a piece of shit who's trying to get more clicks and more Twitter followers. Fuck him.

After seeing AD gut it out with torn rib cartilege and Big Whit bust his ass to come back for the playoffs, I'm sure Goff's efforts may have stricken some as too little too late.

I dunno about Goff's work ethic, but the stories match the play on the field.

Seems like there are those who are wanting to counter the "Goff is a victim who's coach abandoned him and never supported him and everyone's being mean to him all the time" narrative that I'm sure Tom Condon is pushing like hell right now.

I like Goff and will root for him in Detroit (except, of course, when we play them)

But this "Goff is a totally blameless victim" narrative is delusional.

 

[Mackeyser]

On a different note:

Goff struggles with pressure up the middle.

On Goff's calendar this year?

The Rams... and AARON DONALD.

That's gonna be an interesting matchup...

 

[Karate61]

It’s true. No other team operates like this organization. Rams know that in order for them to compete in LA they need to bring championships. This video pumped me up even more!

Hot Damn...Rome is the man and just laid it down perfectly!

 

[thirteen28]

After seeing AD gut it out with torn rib cartilege and Big Whit bust his ass to come back for the playoffs, I'm sure Goff's efforts may have stricken some as too little too late.

I dunno about Goff's work ethic, but the stories match the play on the field.

Seems like there are those who are wanting to counter the "Goff is a victim who's coach abandoned him and never supported him and everyone's being mean to him all the time" narrative that I'm sure Tom Condon is pushing like hell right now.

I like Goff and will root for him in Detroit (except, of course, when we play them)

But this "Goff is a totally blameless victim" narrative is delusional.

Well, a) that's not the narrative, that's a straw man. Even a more ardent supporter of Goff like myself has acknowledged he's had plenty of shortcomings this season and has plenty to work on.

The narrative is that he was disrespected on the way out the door, and that the coach himself shares plenty of blame for the struggles of the offense the last tow seasons. Goff largely kept his mouth shut before the trade, while McVay and Snead were talking him down. No matter how you slice it, that was not a good look at all, and even if Stafford raises a Lombardi over his head next season it still won't negate the fact that they could have handled the situation with Goff with a lot more subtlety and respect for a player who had did a lot for this organization. People love to tout McVay's record with the Rams, but Goff was the primary QB for all but one of McVay's wins here.

As for the "gut it out" thing, Goff's thumb injury - and his playing through it - started before AD's injury. The playing through it part was pretty much concurrent with Whit's coming back.

On the work ethic, I think that's just bullshit. He's worked out multiple offseasons with that other QB coach (name escapes me). He might not have this past offseason, but with the country practically under martial law due to the pandemic, the situation was clearly beyond his control.

 

[ReekofRams]

Weird that she's from Boston right? Any chance you think Belichick implanted her for espionage purposes and shes on the Patriots payroll?? ;-)

Where is Matt Stafford’s wife from?

 

[Mackeyser]

Well, a) that's not the narrative, that's a straw man. Even a more ardent supporter of Goff like myself has acknowledged he's had plenty of shortcomings this season and has plenty to work on.

The narrative is that he was disrespected on the way out the door, and that the coach himself shares plenty of blame for the struggles of the offense the last tow seasons. Goff largely kept his mouth shut before the trade, while McVay and Snead were talking him down. No matter how you slice it, that was not a good look at all, and even if Stafford raises a Lombardi over his head next season it still won't negate the fact that they could have handled the situation with Goff with a lot more subtlety and respect for a player who had did a lot for this organization. People love to tout McVay's record with the Rams, but Goff was the primary QB for all but one of McVay's wins here.

As for the "gut it out" thing, Goff's thumb injury - and his playing through it - started before AD's injury. The playing through it part was pretty much concurrent with Whit's coming back.

On the work ethic, I think that's just bullshit. He's worked out multiple offseasons with that other QB coach (name escapes me). He might not have this past offseason, but with the country practically under martial law due to the pandemic, the situation was clearly beyond his control.

I was responding to a poster who said Goff was treated like dogshit the entire time he was here... it was hyperbolic.

I don't think that's your narrative, but a few folks are about that narrative.

When it comes to the work ethic, I'll ask you this:

If Goff was the kind of player that folks including myself thought he was, then why was the ENTIRE TEAM behind starting Wolford. And we know this because of their behavior during the Cards game and during the beginning of the Seattle game.

Also, as much as I appreciate Goff toughing it out to get back onto the field, WHERE WERE HIS TEAMMATES???

AD played injured. Teammates spoke up about his effort. Big Whit worked hard to get back and wasn't 100%. Teammates spoke up about his effort. Goff worked to get back and play with a newly repaired thumb on his throwing hand.

Crickets.

So, if folks are wanting to go after McVay... how are they not going after the ENTIRE TEAM because no one stepped up for him beyond "he tried".

I got 2 Goff jerseys. Not 2 Donald jerseys, not 2 Kupp jerseys, not 2 Warner jerseys... 2 Goff jerseys.

This isn't coming from an "anti-Goffer"

And just like I said I was WROOOONG about Stafford, I have to introspect and examine what I thought and re-evaluate what I saw in light of new information.

So going beyond McVay... where were Goff's teammates after the Seattle win?

I think Goff's statement about "going where he's appreciated" are MUCH, MUCH deeper than just McVay... and that leak seems to lend support for that notion...

 

[FrantikRam]

After seeing AD gut it out with torn rib cartilege and Big Whit bust his ass to come back for the playoffs, I'm sure Goff's efforts may have stricken some as too little too late.

I dunno about Goff's work ethic, but the stories match the play on the field.

Seems like there are those who are wanting to counter the "Goff is a victim who's coach abandoned him and never supported him and everyone's being mean to him all the time" narrative that I'm sure Tom Condon is pushing like hell right now.

I like Goff and will root for him in Detroit (except, of course, when we play them)

But this "Goff is a totally blameless victim" narrative is delusional.

Yep, on the money IMO. The stories match the play on the field and is literally the only explanation for McVay turning on him.

People liking Goff is blinding them - McVay has stuck by Blythe, Reynolds, Everett and others - why? Blythe was a huge reason why we lost a few games, but McVay never said "our center has to block better". Why?

When GZ missed several FGs, he never said "our kicker has to kick better" - why?

We don't know, but when you put the puzzle pieces together, the only logical conclusion is that Goff did, or did not - do something. Whether that's working or whatever.

Then as noted above you have the players reactions to Wolford, and a few in the media (I heard Rappaport brought if up too but couldn't find it) talking about his lack of work ethic.

It fits.

 

[badnews]

I was responding to a poster who said Goff was treated like dogshit the entire time he was here... it was hyperbolic.

I don't think that's your narrative, but a few folks are about that narrative.

When it comes to the work ethic, I'll ask you this:

If Goff was the kind of player that folks including myself thought he was, then why was the ENTIRE TEAM behind starting Wolford. And we know this because of their behavior during the Cards game and during the beginning of the Seattle game.

Also, as much as I appreciate Goff toughing it out to get back onto the field, WHERE WERE HIS TEAMMATES???

AD played injured. Teammates spoke up about his effort. Big Whit worked hard to get back and wasn't 100%. Teammates spoke up about his effort. Goff worked to get back and play with a newly repaired thumb on his throwing hand.

Crickets.

So, if folks are wanting to go after McVay... how are they not going after the ENTIRE TEAM because no one stepped up for him beyond "he tried".

I got 2 Goff jerseys. Not 2 Donald jerseys, not 2 Kupp jerseys, not 2 Warner jerseys... 2 Goff jerseys.

This isn't coming from an "anti-Goffer"

And just like I said I was WROOOONG about Stafford, I have to introspect and examine what I thought and re-evaluate what I saw in light of new information.

So going beyond McVay... where were Goff's teammates after the Seattle win?

I think Goff's statement about "going where he's appreciated" are MUCH, MUCH deeper than just McVay... and that leak seems to lend support for that notion...

How do you know the entire team was behind Wolford? Jared was hurt. What was the entire team supposed to do? Not be supportive?

I don't get the need by fans or the team to kick him while he's down.

The argument is over. McVay got his buddy, the fans got rid of the excuse for why we aren't winning enough so not sure why all the extra blows are necessary.

 

[FrantikRam]

How do you know the entire team was behind Wolford? Jared was hurt. What was the entire team supposed to do? Not be supportive?

I don't get the need by fans or the team to kick him while he's down.

The argument is over. McVay got his buddy, the fans got rid of the excuse for why we aren't winning enough so not sure why all the extra blows are necessary.

Then people should probably stop saying things like "the Rams could have handled this better".

There are plenty of people that will be coming around to the opinion that Goff was in the wrong on this and that the Rams were actually nicer than they should have been about it - by virtue of McVay never calling out another mediocre player and never saying about a player what he said about Goff, and then reports from the media about his work ethic coming in.

If people form that opinion - and it's not one that anyone has to agree with obviously - but if they form that and then posters talk down McVay for it or say they could have handled it better.

Going to be some responses.

 

[OC_Ram]

I have no idea what happened to #16 but I sure am excited to see #9 run this offense. Giggity

 

[blackbart]

Well, a) that's not the narrative, that's a straw man. Even a more ardent supporter of Goff like myself has acknowledged he's had plenty of shortcomings this season and has plenty to work on.

The narrative is that he was disrespected on the way out the door, and that the coach himself shares plenty of blame for the struggles of the offense the last tow seasons. Goff largely kept his mouth shut before the trade, while McVay and Snead were talking him down. No matter how you slice it, that was not a good look at all, and even if Stafford raises a Lombardi over his head next season it still won't negate the fact that they could have handled the situation with Goff with a lot more subtlety and respect for a player who had did a lot for this organization. People love to tout McVay's record with the Rams, but Goff was the primary QB for all but one of McVay's wins here.

As for the "gut it out" thing, Goff's thumb injury - and his playing through it - started before AD's injury. The playing through it part was pretty much concurrent with Whit's coming back.

On the work ethic, I think that's just bullshit. He's worked out multiple offseasons with that other QB coach (name escapes me). He might not have this past offseason, but with the country practically under martial law due to the pandemic, the situation was clearly beyond his control.

You have to earn respect first before you can be disrespected. And, if work ethic is even a remote possibility you don’t deserve respect.