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Elmgrovegnome

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I love this trade. Stafford numbers will probably be some of his best of his career here.
We finally get to see Mcvays true offense as there will be no need for watering it down.
Steep price, but I have complete faith that Snead will keep the talent flowing.
Guess I need to go avatar shopping.



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Same here. This trade is great on several levels. One that I love is Snead beating Lynch to the trade. They identified their target and made it happen. Washington, the Niners, Colts, possibly the Steelers, the Patriots, I may be missing someone, they all could have improved their team by acquiring Stafford and didn't. I'm often critical of Snead draft picks but I love his trades. Its highly unlikely that they could get a QB with Stafford's ability with the picks that they traded for him. This offense will look as good if not better than 2018 imo.
 

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GM Les Snead in 2015 traded 2 Firsts, 1 Second & 2 Thirds to get Goff.

In 2021 Snead traded 2 first rd picks & a third-round pick to get rid of him & that oversized contract he gave Goff.

Total= 4 First Round Selections, 1 Second round, and 3 Third rounders.
 

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He has been on some terrible teams. He's never had what we would call a good team. One year he threw for 5000 yards and 40 tds. That's a top five stat and he didn't have his coach telling him what plays to call. QBs have played into their early 40's. If Stafford plays five years then this trade is a big success. The Rams window is open now. They had to make a move.

Your reasons sound like generalizations stretched to endorse your opinion. Its funny because I am a skeptical thinker, and have always used critical analysis when considering everything. To me his move is a no brainer and as big if not bigger than getting Ramsey. This is the best I've felt about the Rams chances since early 2018.
Well I don't like this trade because of what we gave up and I may look silly come next year.

But I am standing by - if we don't win a Super Bowl in the next two years - this is a shitty trade
 

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Stats don't mean anything in my book. I go by what they do to preserve wins or how they do in comebacks.

Oh really?

Then perhaps this statistic /article will help to assauge your anguish over Goff's departure.


"Detroit Lions quarterback Matthew Stafford leads the NFL in comebacks since entering the league 2009

This past weekend, Stafford led the Lions to a comeback win over the Cardinals, and that was the 29th comeback win of his career."

https://dailycaller.com/2020/09/29/matthew-stafford-detroit-lions-29-comebacks/
 

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See I played the long game with my avatar....I can guarantee the Rams will NEVER cut Pusha T so i'm set

Haha can never be mad at Pusha my dude. Liked him since clipse, been a fan since my name is my name. But Daytona was just a flat out masterpiece. Ima sucker for Ye production but man that album is so GOOD.
 

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Im trying to turn my logic around and feel excited about this... but I'm not able.

I am a huge homer who usually finds a reason to support the moves the team makes, get excited about them, etc.
I'm not able to do that this time.

I think there is a really good chance Goff will be playing good football long after Stafford or Wolford or Bradford or Harrison Ford are all long gone.

If the former Rams org members now on the Lions did this deal to make the Rams better, they will be unemployed soon. They traded a an old QB with back issues for a proven playoff winner who can play through injuries who is only beginning his career... and 2 firsts. They are high fiving each other, I'm sure.
 

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GM Les Snead in 2015 traded 2 Firsts, 1 Second & 2 Thirds to get Goff.

In 2021 Snead traded 2 first rd picks & a third-round pick to get rid of him & that oversized contract he gave Goff.

Total= 4 First Round Selections, 1 Second round, and 3 Third rounders.
When you look at it that way we coulda just traded 3 firsts for Stafford in 2015 and saved time, money, cap hell, and actually had a first round pick next year :LOL::LOL:
 

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I got excited because they are supposed to be available on amazon according to their website but on amazon it says out of stock not sure if they'll return :cautious:. I'm losing hope I can get them since I've never heard of any of those stores you referenced lol
I'm sure the east coast has some great options.

You can always email Hoffy on their website.
That's what I did.
To my surprise, they responded as to where I can find them in my area.
 

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I don't think any team would have given up a 1st rnd pick for goff and his contract yet apparently there were about 10 teams interested in Stafford with the expectation that a first rnd pick would be a starting point.

I read it was closer to over half of the league,
I've told you why

He is 33 has a bad back and most of those stats come with the Lions behind and other teams letting Stafford pass with linebackers and safeties playing back.

I could be wrong and I will eat crow if he does as well as a Ram but I just don't see it.

Stats don't mean anything in my book. I go by what they do to preserve wins or how they do in comebacks.

I think Stafford had one year where he brought the lions back from behind frequently but other than that one year, he really hasn't been good on the win loss ratio. Maybe with a better defense and run game - Stafford will come alive. We shall see,
People here are trying to find the positives in the deal, There will most certainly be added cap flexibilty.
No question we can all project the result with varied levels of accuracy but remeber any QB can be hurt anytime and Matt would not be desired by half the league if it were a present issue.
Time to accept this and hope for the best Stafford is certainly a more gifted player than Goff right now. Yes one could get reinjured and the other could finally find the consistency and internal clock he has been missing. I like Jared a lot but he certainly did not show consitent improvement in the areas he does control....
 

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Was hoping we would land a mobile QB, but I'm still excited to see Stafford in McVay's offense.

Bold move by Snead to get rid of Goff and two 1sts...but he had to do it, because Goff was not gonna win shit with us, and the relationship had clearly soured.
 

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So some say that Stafford has back issues. That was one season. Is it chronic? I have not hear that it is. Its like saying Brady has knee issues because he tore his ACL and was out one season
 

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Goff has not been good the last couple of years, but the whole offense has been stale since the Bears game two years ago. The Bears figured us out and the league followed. Our line can't pass block to save their lives and our offense is so predictable. I would expect more innovation and variety from McVay. Goff was in the pro bowl and the superbowl just a couple of years ago, so we know he has the talent. He was good enough then to be given a huge contract 2 years early.
I don't know what happened between him and McVay, but their relationship has fallen apart. Does McVay rub people the
wrong way sometimes? IDK.

The thing that really bugs me is the contract decisions that have been made. We didn't have to give Goff a new contract and he could have just walked this year, no cap crunch and no draft picks. His new contract doesn't start till this next year. We have really hurt ourselves with dead cap money the last couple of years. We wasted enough cap that could have filled every hole with quality players.

I think we will probably be better this year, but we have mortgaged our future by making bad decisions.
I agree with most of what you said, but there is no question something gave way in Goffs brain. We all saw the inexplicable throws right at opposing players while looking mentally flustered. The game planning seemed to frustrate Goff when he was asked to shoulder the burden instead of the run game. Blame Goff/Ol/Mcvay but someone was going to pull the short straw, and that happened to be Goff.
 

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Oh really?

Then perhaps this statistic /article will help to assauge your anguish over Goff's departure.


"Detroit Lions quarterback Matthew Stafford leads the NFL in comebacks since entering the league 2009

This past weekend, Stafford led the Lions to a comeback win over the Cardinals, and that was the 29th comeback win of his career."

https://dailycaller.com/2020/09/29/matthew-stafford-detroit-lions-29-comebacks/
We could go back and forth all day on this. But Goff is 36-0 with a lead past halftime with McVay and I don't think he had many leads at halftime with Fisher either.

I wonder what Staffords record is with a lead at halftime. I am actually curious about that stat.

Maybe his overall record sucks because he has been on such crappy teams.

Again I am only going by what my friend at work says about him and the fact that he is 33 and has a bad back.

And he has said some really bad things about Stafford in the past,

I really need to watch games with Stafford on the All 22 to garner my own opinion but I just do not have time right now.

Also, that bad back freaks me out. One bad hit - and where are we.

No firsts for two more years and Wolford at QB. I like Wolford as a backup but he isn't starting material caliber.
 
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