Matt Stafford Traded to Rams

[dieterbrock]

Well, sportrac is updated, so at the moment the Rams QB spot will take up an additional 8 mill of cap space

2024 Los Angeles Rams Cap Table

The Los Angeles Rams 2024 salary cap table, including team cap space, dead cap figures, and complete breakdowns of player cap hits, salaries, and bonuses.

www.spotrac.com

So for those thinking this trade would help us keep Floyd or Johnson? This trade now means without question both are gone

 

[jap]

Has Robert invited Matt to play catch yet? All the WRs, TEs, and RBs had better tag along, or Sean "Little Caesar" will spank them!

 

[FrantikRam]

Funny that !!! Because if you look at some of the threads goff was the reasons for our losses

Well sure. If Cam Akers lost three fumbles in a game we would say he was the reason we lost.

Being the reason we lose or win is different than being responsible for wins and losses.

 

[CGI_Ram]

Sorry, guys... title edits trying to clean up the threads.

Changed thread title

Hope nobody freaked out....

 

[IBruce80]

I had to sleep on it before commenting. The way Goff was treated by our so called leaders was embarrassing and uncalled for. If you want to move on from him , that’s fine. Just don’t belittle the kid. He just gutted it out and played with a broken thumb in a cold weather playoff game. . McVays arrogance is getting old and Snead is a reckless gambler. McVays stale play calling was a big part of it. Refusing to make adjustments or mix things up made the offense predictable. They are the ones that handed out the big contracts to Gurley , Cooks , and Goff. Woods , Kupp and Higbee signed big deals too. I like Woods and Kupp , and Jefferson , but they are the same guy. I look for Woods or Kupp to be traded. Higbee was practically invisible this year.
As a die hard Rams fan I’m hoping for the best , but it sure feels like it could get ugly. A lot of holes to fill on this team , and no money or 1st round picks for years to come.
In Snead and McVay we trust.
Not me anymore

Good post.
Also, should the number of staff leaving ring alarm bells?

Whilst McVay was, I thought, luke warm to Goff in recent media, Snead was very poor.
I first put McVays attitude down to losing to the Packers.
In hindsight, he'd clearly had enough.
Snead, well, he was just piss poor in his comments.
He has gone down in my estimation.
McVay? Well, we'll see.

 

[Elmgrovegnome]

That's the $15.5 million roster bonus. It's guaranteed money, but it's not dead money. It hasn't been paid yet.

Shelter said 43 million in cash which means guaranteed money I believe right?

 

[FrantikRam]

Good post.
Also, should the number of staff leaving ring alarm bells?

Whilst McVay was, I thought, luke warm to Goff in recent media, Snead was very poor.
I first put McVays attitude down to losing to the Packers.
In hindsight, he'd clearly had enough.
Snead, well, he was just piss poor in his comments.
He has gone down in my estimation.
McVay? Well, we'll see.

And what if, since well never know, Goff wasn't putting in the work? What if he was the last one in and first one out, and once the turnovers started McVay took the gloves off and got real with him, and he didn't like it?

Or even worse - what if Goff just wasn't taking the criticism?

Well never know for sure but would these change your opinions on McVay?

 

[jjab360]

This could honestly be a Robert Woods type pickup. McVay inherited Goff but when he had a chance to look around the league and see how other QBs were performing despite their circumstances this is the guy he chose.

Woods' stats were nothing to brag about in Buffalo but the talent was clearly there and we ended up with a bargain. Stafford's stats don't look like much but everyone in the league recognizes his talent and he could be a superstar in LA, who knows?

 

[Tano]

I wake up to this?????

Oh I am so downright pissed off right now.

I agree with Memento and Jrry.

This is a horseshit of a trade.

I could see doing exactly this for Watson but Stafford.

Really McVay??? Snead????

I have been a Ram fan for over 48 years and never gave up on them.

Yes some of the down years I knew we were crap but this one may make me give up on pro football entirely.

And I can't even watch College Football because I hate the USC coach so much.

 

[blackbart]

I honestly think the two QB's are a wash. What pisses me off is the two 1st's we gave up. I'm having a hard time of making sense of the bottom line impact of the cap. I know we both eat dead money.

Stafford in my book is capable of being a serviceable QB, but not unless we upgrade the Oline. So unless we got a lot of money freed up in 2021 how in the hell are we going to improve our situation.

Ill give Mcvay a chance to plug the Oline, but if he thinks he's going to improve the offense with Stafford and this same Oline play he is one step out the door and about to learn a real hard lesson that many geniuses before him had to learn.

I guarantee you Goff got tired of the BS and told Sean his system is shit without blocking and innovating.

Mcvay couldn't handle the truth and recruited his buddy Les to disprove Goff's theory. We will see now.

Stafford aint doing shit behind this Oline, you can take that to the bank.

I know there are a bunch of people complains about the Oline in 2020. I just happened to pick this post to go get the PFF rankings.

The Rams were #3 and the Lions were #13

Final 2020 offensive line rankings

With the 2020 NFL regular season now in the books, PFF's Ben Linsey ranks every offensive line in the NFL.

www.pff.com

 

[OregonRamsFan]

Well, I have calmed down.

MATT STAFFORD,

WELCOME TO THE LOS ANGELES RAMS!

 

[FrantikRam]

Trade history for McVay/Snead:

Watkins - 2nd round pick that ended up helping us to a top 5 offense, led the team in receiving TDs and scored us a 3rd round comp pick

Cooks - 1st and 4th for 1200 yard WR, which improved our offense even more got to a Super Bowl, and scored a 2nd round pick

Peters/Talib - 2nd, 4th, 5th for a CV tandem that was elite when healthy in 2018 - led us to a Super Bowl and held Brady to 13 points, then scored a 5th, 7th and Kenny Young

Quinn/Ogletree - both netted 4th rounders, defense the following year was up and down but in the playoffs they were elite. Also freed up to space.

Fowler - 3rd and 4th(?) for helping us to a Super Bowl, then had a 10 sack season and scored a 3rd round comp

Ramsey - 2 1sts for helping us to the best defense in the NFL

Stafford - 2 1sts and a 3rd plus Goff for ?



They have won every trade they've made. The only one that's even really debatable is the Peters trade, but considering how good our pass defense was in the playoffs in 2018, that's close to a push for me. This FO may do poorly with extensions, but they mash home runs in the trade department

 

[Florida_Ram]

Bradshaw nailed it and told the Rams to go get Stafford.

This clip will be played many times during the Fox pregame shows next season.


View: https://youtu.be/cZ8Ni-1j2uQ?t=67

 

[Tano]

Bruh, that pass is ridiculous

I have seen Goff make that same exact pass when he has time like Stafford had.

 

[Tano]

People with their heart set on this being a bad trade won’t be talked into believing otherwise. This trade was 1. To get out of the Goff contract and 2. For Stafford.

McVay didn’t believe he was going to win a Super Bowl with Goff so the trade was made to get out of his contract first and foremost. The second first round pick and this years third was to get Stafford. That’s not a significant price to pay for a QB of his calibre.

Stafford doesn’t need to win it all for this to be “the right decision.” It was the right decision because we were able to get out from under Goff AND replace him with a better player. But people are going to argue this to death but in the end the head coach and GM made a decision they get paid to make. All these armchair GMs acting like they know better should apply for the real gig with an NFL front office if they’re so damn confident.

It better be a fricken Super Bowl win for me to like this trade.

 

[André]

Am I wrong (Please tell me that I am!) being concerned about Stanford’s AGE (As old as I am it seems funny saying that 33/If that is his age is an Age Issue!) & HEALTH ISSUES? I wouldn’t be nearly as concerned about those issues if the Rams didn’t give up so much to get Stafford!

And, How ticked off is Ramsey going to be that the Rams could not pull off a trade for his friend Watson? I wonder how hard or even if they tried to trade for him?!

I hate this trade. And I really wish we had gotten Watson too. But we have to get away from the health issues thing with Saffold. He has played 16 games in 9 of the last 10 years. He's not injury prone.

 

[IBruce80]

And what if, since well never know, Goff wasn't putting in the work? What if he was the last one in and first one out, and once the turnovers started McVay took the gloves off and got real with him, and he didn't like it?

Or even worse - what if Goff just wasn't taking the criticism?

Well never know for sure but would these change your opinions on McVay?

Yeah, because there is possibly two sides to this.
It is possible, let's say, Goff was everything but professional.
All we know for sure is his skillset declined somewhat the past two seasons.
And, stepped up for the playoffs.
McVay doesn't have to prove anything to me, but I hope all this plays out how he envisions it.

 

[NJRamsFan]

I have seen Goff make that same exact pass when he has time like Stafford had.

Come on bro...no you haven’t.

 

[Tano]

Their QB ran PA at a significantly lower rate and still only had 0.1 less seconds to throw according to the stat you keep quoting (2.4 for Stafford vs. 2.5 for Goff). I'm not even arguing that our OL is worse. But the Lions did not have a sucky OL last year or the year before or the year before that. Stafford's OL was middle of the pack this year and was quite good in the years prior. Our OL was a little better this year than his.

Not much better - the only reason Goff had more time was due to the roll outs which increased his time by at least a few ticks.

And as I have stated before - when Goff did have more than 2 seconds - he usually completed a good pass.

His turnovers came when he had less than 2 seconds.

How is Stafford going to do with less than 2 seconds on those same exact plays is my question.

 

[Tano]

Come on bro...no you haven’t.

Yes I have - the one to Reynolds that Goff threw for a TD a few years ago - same similar throw