Matt Stafford Traded to Rams

[Mackeyser]

Well my bad then... Thought I saw someone mention it was from just a few yrs ago.

Still the lack of any signature wins is concerning. I mean he is not like Jay Cutler, obviously Stafford is well respected, just strange he rarely elevated his team.

I posit that Stafford is this generation's Archie Manning... an amazing QB who's been snake bit by a terrible org and circumstance when he seemed to be catching a break.

The difference is that Archie Manning never got a chance with a complete franchise.

Archie Manning on the Rams of the early 70s? That would have been pretty interesting...

 

[XXXIVwin]

Very cool....gutty....
But he came from behind to beat a terrible Browns team???

I...

Am...

Stoked!!!!

Lions were 0-16 (!) the year before.

And in that 2009 season, they went 2-14, so that game was half their win total right there. Oh, and he also threw for 422 yards and 5 TDS in that game...!

Yeah, kinda weird that Stafford hasn’t had more success in the last 12 years. Guess we’ll find out this September how much Detroit was holding him back.

 

[RamsFanCK]

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WATCH THIS VIDEO!!!!

Gotta admit that brought tears to my eyes. What a freaking moment!!! How can anyone not root for this guy????

Love it!

Then there is Linehan showing amazing leadership at the end with “I don’t know what to tell you and I know you’re hurt” lol freaking lame duck of a man lol

 

[Rambitious1]

I posit that Stafford is this generation's Archie Manning... an amazing QB who's been snake bit by a terrible org and circumstance when he seemed to be catching a break.

The difference is that Archie Manning never got a chance with a complete franchise.

Archie Manning on the Rams of the early 70s? That would have been pretty interesting...

Archie Manning on the Rams in the 1970’s- with the defense and running game the Rams had then, I believe that would’ve brought them multiple Super Bowl championships.

 

[The Ramowl]

It's really sch a big test for both QBs involved. Stafford won't have the excuse of being in a bad franchise anymore and he will need to deliver in big games, including (let's hope so, otherwise it's already failure) playoff games. The trade won't be satisfactory I believe if he doesn't reach the Conference Championship game. This is my main worry.

For Goff, it's his occasion to show that the things he did well were not only McVay's work. Maybe this is the electroshock he needed, his whole career and his legacy is on the line in Detroit right now, if he fucks that up, he'll become a journeyman backup. I'm really rooting for him, I'll follow the Lion's season closely next year, I hope he has success.

Also does anyone understand why the Texans don't want to trade Watson ? He seems arched on not playing for them anymore and he has insane value right now. Are they being plain stupid and caught up in ego issues or is there a reasoning that makes sense here ?

 

[tempests]

Also does anyone understand why the Texans don't want to trade Watson ? He seems arched on not playing for them anymore and he has insane value right now. Are they being plain stupid and caught up in ego issues or is there a reasoning that makes sense here ?

it could be a long time before they have a QB as good as him again. So if there's a chance they can make it work, they're going to try.

I don't think they'll be successful, but there's a lot of people who think they'd be foolish to trade him at all.

 

[Mackeyser]

Well my bad then... Thought I saw someone mention it was from just a few yrs ago.

Still the lack of any signature wins is concerning. I mean he is not like Jay Cutler, obviously Stafford is well respected, just strange he rarely elevated his team.

He did set the record in 2016 (without Megatron) for the most 4th quarter comebacks in a season (8)

Or maybe it was game winning drives. Either way... game on the line and he led the team to a win... 8 times in one season.

Now, I don't hold the lack of those against Goff because the Rams weren't behind much.

But on a really inconsistent team (yeah, they've had decent talent at times) that seems to have tons of issues with drops at the worst times, he drove the team to 8 victories in one season.

I dunno about "signature" but you don't see journeymen do that...

 

[MachS]

Still the lack of any signature wins is concerning. I mean he is not like Jay Cutler, obviously Stafford is well respected, just strange he rarely elevated his team.

Rarely elevated his team? The guy has been carrying the entire franchise on his shoulders for a decade with hardly any talent around him. So Calvin Johnson and Barry Sanders aren't very good players either right? Because they didn't elevate their teams well enough to win in the playoffs?

Come on man. That's, why wins are not an individual stat and I've been saying that forever. The Lions franchise has been horrendous. Different coaches every couple years, different coordinators, just total disfunction. Stafford had no running game and no defense for 99% of his career. In his 3 playoff games his defense gave up 32ppg.

There's a reason why he's so well respected around the league and it's because of his talent, leadership, and the competitiveness you just saw in that clip. Now he'll actually have a team and coach around him to go prove people that say things like that wrong.

 

[Mojo Ram]

Yeah I think Stafford is going to shock so many of you. He's always a fringe top 10 qb and that's even while playing for that dumpster fire. And having defensive minded coaches. Can't wait to see him with Mcvay, a running game, and a defense.

This. But, he HAS to stay healthy. We're talking 16 games + the playoffs for the next few years.

 

[Ballhawk]

Rarely elevated his team? The guy has been carrying the entire franchise on his shoulders for a decade with hardly any talent around him. So Calvin Johnson and Barry Sanders aren't very good players either right? Because they didn't elevate their teams well enough to win in the playoffs?

Come on man. That's, why wins are not an individual stat and I've been saying that forever. The Lions franchise has been horrendous. Different coaches every couple years, different coordinators, just total disfunction. Stafford had no running game and no defense for 99% of his career. In his 3 playoff games his defense gave up 32ppg.

There's a reason why he's so well respected around the league and it's because of his talent, leadership, and the competitiveness you just saw in that clip. Now he'll actually have a team and coach around him to go prove people that say things like that wrong.

He should feel right at home with the Rams. Goff has never had the same OC or QB coach two years in a row. Every coupleof years will be an improvement!

 

[PhillyRam]

Rarely elevated his team? The guy has been carrying the entire franchise on his shoulders for a decade with hardly any talent around him. So Calvin Johnson and Barry Sanders aren't very good players either right? Because they didn't elevate their teams well enough to win in the playoffs?

Come on man. That's, why wins are not an individual stat and I've been saying that forever. The Lions franchise has been horrendous. Different coaches every couple years, different coordinators, just total disfunction. Stafford had no running game and no defense for 99% of his career. In his 3 playoff games his defense gave up 32ppg.

There's a reason why he's so well respected around the league and it's because of his talent, leadership, and the competitiveness you just saw in that clip. Now he'll actually have a team and coach around him to go prove people that say things like that wrong.

Carried them? Where did he carry them?

If Goff wins 5-6 games there this yr then he is as good as Stafford or at least did as much. Maybe better if they lose Jones & Golliday and they still win 5 or so games.

Again he should be a better fit, but age concerns me and lack of him elevating his team. What is his "wins above replacement"? They stunk when he played abd they stunk when a backup played. He didn't make much difference.

 

[PhillyRam]

I posit that Stafford is this generation's Archie Manning... an amazing QB who's been snake bit by a terrible org and circumstance when he seemed to be catching a break.

The difference is that Archie Manning never got a chance with a complete franchise.

Archie Manning on the Rams of the early 70s? That would have been pretty interesting...

Well would you take Archie Manning in 1981, after he was around 12 or so yrs, and your draft picks you traded ended costing you Johnnie Johnson, Eric Dickerson, and Irv Pankey?

BTW, Manning was on an expansion team who did not have the ability to use FA to get better quicker. They were terrible for yrs until they figured it out. He never had a Megatron or a Suh on D... Nothing.

 

[Ram_Rally]

This. But, he HAS to stay healthy. We're talking 16 games + the playoffs for the next few years.

He missed time in 2019 but other than that he was relatively healthy the last 5 years or so.

 

[jjab360]

Carried them? Where did he carry them?

If Goff wins 5-6 games there this yr then he is as good as Stafford or at least did as much. Maybe better if they lose Jones & Golliday and they still win 5 or so games.

Again he should be a better fit, but age concerns me and lack of him elevating his team. What is his "wins above replacement"? They stunk when he played abd they stunk when a backup played. He didn't make much difference.

Because they've been doing so well the past few years, people forget there was a stretch during Drew Brees' career where it looked like the Saints couldn't buy their way into the playoffs, same as Stafford's Lions. Between 2012 and 2016, the Saints went 7-9 4 out of 5 years. Was HOFer Brees an average QB during that stretch? I'll let you look up the insane amount of yards and TDs he threw those five years. W-L is not a QB stat.

Oh and btw, the Lions started 2019 3-3-1 with Stafford and didn't win a single game the rest of the year after he got injured. So I'm guessing his "wins above replacement" is pretty good considering the team literally can't win without him. That took the minimal amount of research btw.

 

[Allen2McVay]

He missed time in 2019 but other than that he was relatively healthy the last 5 years or so.

Stafford has played in all 16 games in 9 of the past 10 seasons.

 

[Ram_Rally]

Stafford has played in all 16 games in 9 of the past 10 seasons.

Yeah I knew he was healthy. There's been several myths about him busted lately. Including the stat padding myth

 

[PhillyRam]

Because they've been doing so well the past few years, people forget there was a stretch during Drew Brees' career where it looked like the Saints couldn't buy their way into the playoffs, same as Stafford's Lions. Between 2012 and 2016, the Saints went 7-9 4 out of 5 years. Was HOFer Brees an average QB during that stretch? I'll let you look up the insane amount of yards and TDs he threw those five years. W-L is not a QB stat.

Oh and btw, the Lions started 2019 3-3-1 with Stafford and didn't win a single game the rest of the year after he got injured. So I'm guessing his "wins above replacement" is pretty good considering the team literally can't win without him. That took the minimal amount of research btw.

What did Drew Brees accomplish from a team perspective past the age of 33?

That didnt take much research either...

 

[MachS]

Carried them? Where did he carry them?

If Goff wins 5-6 games there this yr then he is as good as Stafford or at least did as much

Goff will never be as good of a football player as Stafford. Your opinion doesn't matter, all you need to do is listen to what coaches and NFL players say around the league. McVay just shipped Goff out of town, and that should say enough. I dont care how many wins each of their teams have had prior to 2021. Wins is not a QB stat it's such a ridiculous argument. But after this year your opinion of him will change because you've obviously not watched Stafford play football that much if at all.

 

[jjab360]

What did Drew Brees accomplish from a team perspective past the age of 33?

That didnt take much research either...

What's your point?

 

[PhillyRam]

What's your point?

What's your point in regards to a post 33 yr old Drew Brees, when he has not gotten further than this team has over the last 4 yrs?

If Stafford loses in the divisional round most times with a NFCG loss thrown in somewhere, then this was a complete failure considering the price paid.