Lots of whispers that Trey Lance still ain't ready

[CGI_Ram]

The dude played 1 year of D1-aa ball and people are surprised the kid isn’t ready?
He may be good some day but it was a stupid pick and I still maintain Shanahan wanted Jones.

If he’s not ready by now, and there is belief he needs another season to prepare… it sounds like a huge mistake to me.

If he‘s “this raw”… they must not know if he can read/react to an NFL defense, right? Or he doesn’t have the playbook down yet? Because it can’t be physical tools, that‘s what hooked them to begin with.

And, Lance has accuracy issues. Some things are god given talent and accuracy is one, IMO. Can you really practice your way to being more accurate at the speed of an NFL game? I am skeptical. It needs to be a natural thing when bullets are flying.

 

[Mackeyser]

Before landing in TB, Brady made a big deal about wanting to stay on the East Coast so he could stay close to his eldest son Jack, and that the East Coast was preferable.

Sounds like his wife and kids wouldn't be gung-ho about moving to CA.

Also, Giselle travels quite a bit to Europe and the extra time from the west coast is why fashion models don’t typically live full time in LA. When in the States, it’s easy to not draw much distinction between LA and NY, but if you’re working the Asian markets or do business in Asia, living on the East Coast can be a real shitty juggle, especially if you have to travel there. Same with West Coasters and Europe, Middle East or Africa.

So, yeah…

 

[Dodgersrf]

It's way too early to close the book on Trey Lance. He was very raw coming out, but he is a tremendous athlete who will only get better with experience. Hopefully, however, he will continue to suck. It would be nice to have the 49ers play with another below-average QB for a couple more years.

Shanny usually seems to get decent production from his sub par QBs, though.

I'd be very surprised if he wasn't the starter week 1

 

[den-the-coach]

Shanny usually seems to get decent production from his sub par QBs, though.

I'd be very surprised if he wasn't the starter week 1

I agree Shanahan is a magician when it comes to QB’s so let’s see what he has

 

[rdlkgliders]

If he’s not ready by now, and there is belief he needs another season to prepare… it sounds like a huge mistake to me.

If he‘s “this raw”… they must not know if he can read/react to an NFL defense, right? Or he doesn’t have the playbook down yet? Because it can’t be physical tools, that‘s what hooked them to begin with.

And, Lance has accuracy issues. Some things are god given talent and accuracy is one, IMO. Can you really practice your way to being more accurate at the speed of an NFL game? I am skeptical. It needs to be a natural thing when bullets are flying.

Greg Robinson & Tavon Austin say Trey is ready, the playbook is overrated

 

[Cjcinec]

Lance can’t possibly be ready. He hasn’t had an opportunity to play. No matter what level of college experience a QB has there is definitely a big transition going into the NFL. Lance had limited college experience playing against lower level competition. He has a big wind up when he throws. That might not hurt you when you’re playing South Dakota State but it’s going to be a problem in the NFL. I think Lance could develop into a decent prospect and in the run first offense like the Niners have he could be successful but teams are going to load up the box and force him to beat them with a pass. I think Lance will struggle this upcoming season but if he’s able to remain healthy he could be a decent NFL starter in 2023. Problem for the Niners will be keeping the rest of the team together while waiting. Bosa and Samuel will be getting some big pay bumps in the offseason. That’s what makes the Niners decision to spend two number 1 draft picks for a player that’s not exactly ready for prime time when their team was in a championship window even more questionable. If Lance busts then Shanahan and Lynch have set that franchise back 10 years.

 

[thirteen28]

If Lance busts then Shanahan and Lynch have set that franchise back 10 years.

My response if that comes to pass:


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=arZdeg_fL-I

 

[Mojo Ram]

Trey
Tres
Three
First rd picks

 

[Steve808]

I think Trey Lance is ready. He was born for the NFL. Shanahan should get rid of Jimmy G and rely only on Trey Lance. There's no way the Rams defense can stop him. (sarcasm off) LOL

 

[CGI_Ram]

Here is a snippet from Athletic writer for 49’ers

Kawakami: What we know about the 49ers' Jimmy Garoppolo trade market and what we don't

Though the QB market isn't fully formed right now, all signs point to the 49ers getting into serious trade talks next week at the combine.

theathletic.com

• Yes, Shanahan and Lynch are committed to Lance as their QB1 in 2022. That was the plan they put into motion a year ago; that’s how they set up their salary-cap situation going into 2022; that is exactly the way they’re shaping their roster now. After a season getting to know Lance, watching him practice and understanding the vast possibilities of his future, I don’t think Shanahan and Lynch are having any second thoughts about this.

They traded all those picks to get Lance. Now they’re going to play him. It might not be perfect right away, but that’s understood. And it presumably will get better and better the more Lance plays.

• No, it seems quite unlikely that Tom Brady will find his way to the 49ers, at least on any practical path that fits the 49ers’ timeline this offseason or what the Buccaneers will allow (since they still hold his rights).

• No, the QB market might not be as wide open as it once seemed a few weeks ago. Though you never know with these mercurial situations, from what I’ve heard, many NFL people now are guessing that Rodgers will remain in Green Bay and are almost certain that Russell Wilson will remain in Seattle and Kyler Murray will remain in Arizona. And that Brady will, indeed, retire.

 

[rdlkgliders]

Personally I would let Jimmy G walk and trade Deebo for Wentz while Trey gets up to speed. Blue font not needed!

 

[den-the-coach]

IMO they go with Lance, they might sign a veteran somebody like a Jacoby Brissett for example, however, Lance will keep things interesting with his ability to run and they need to get him reps. Brissett has experience and would offer Shanahan another option, but it's Lance's team now for better or worse.

FWIW I liked Lance coming out, he's raw, but runs well and has a great arm, problem last year was his release so that will have to improve, but before I believe he's not ready I need to see more of the kid as I'm a doubting Thomas when it comes to San Francisco.

 

[majrleaged]

I think the 9ers could be the ones leaking this shit. Along with they might keep Grabmypole another year because of it. They are doing it to try and leverage Grabmypole in trades by saying well we could trade him but we could actually really use him one more year so if you want him you have to make it worth our while.
I mean, why would the GM give jimmy G the big going away hug if he knew Lance wasn't ready? Their first offers probably only got a 4th and they came up with a plan to get more leverage.

 

[majrleaged]

Here is a snippet from Athletic writer for 49’ers

Kawakami: What we know about the 49ers' Jimmy Garoppolo trade market and what we don't

Though the QB market isn't fully formed right now, all signs point to the 49ers getting into serious trade talks next week at the combine.

theathletic.com

• Yes, Shanahan and Lynch are committed to Lance as their QB1 in 2022. That was the plan they put into motion a year ago; that’s how they set up their salary-cap situation going into 2022; that is exactly the way they’re shaping their roster now. After a season getting to know Lance, watching him practice and understanding the vast possibilities of his future, I don’t think Shanahan and Lynch are having any second thoughts about this.

They traded all those picks to get Lance. Now they’re going to play him. It might not be perfect right away, but that’s understood. And it presumably will get better and better the more Lance plays.

• No, it seems quite unlikely that Tom Brady will find his way to the 49ers, at least on any practical path that fits the 49ers’ timeline this offseason or what the Buccaneers will allow (since they still hold his rights).

• No, the QB market might not be as wide open as it once seemed a few weeks ago. Though you never know with these mercurial situations, from what I’ve heard, many NFL people now are guessing that Rodgers will remain in Green Bay and are almost certain that Russell Wilson will remain in Seattle and Kyler Murray will remain in Arizona. And that Brady will, indeed, retire.

This I believe makes the most sense.

 

[Rams43]

I believe that history will show us that 49ers overreacted to Rams trading for Stafford. Badly.

I get that they were worried and with good reason. But then they compounded their problem by giving away so much for an inexperienced too young QB.

Now they’re stuck and in a division with the ascending SB Champion Rams And are likely gonna be facing Stafford for the next 5 years. Kind of a reversal of their old advantage when they had Montana and we had mediocre QB’s.

I think Lynch is overrated as a GM. Snead is light years ahead of him in drafting and long term planning and don’t get me started with the trading superiority.

 

[RamFan503]

And while such a move would hurt them, adding Brady would more than make up for it.

Meh. I think you put too much faith in Brady facing the NFC West 6 times. I don't think Brady wants that or could likely even last the season getting beat on and battered.

He won't have a season facing the falcons, Panthers, and a hit and miss Aints team.

Grabmypole was at least able to escape. Brady would be a sitting duck.

 

[Merlin]

I believe that history will show us that 49ers overreacted to Rams trading for Stafford. Badly.

History already shows they overreacted 43. They might hit on this dude, or even just get the most from him due to the way Shanny can scheme up a run game and scheme weapons open underneath. Plus he'll have a deep playoff roster around him. But him being a young player is going to hurt them at some point.

The real story here is that he's not some sort of savant. Because that's what they needed. But they obviously didn't get that, so now it's going to be about playing to his strengths and limiting his mistakes with the half field reads we see for some other run-first type QBs who get a lot of hoopla in the media.

End result is they'll be easier to stop on third down. Which means as long as the Rams stack their OL and secondary correctly this offseason the 9ers are in for some pain in this matchup.

 

[Neil039]

The dude played 1 year of D1-aa ball and people are surprised the kid isn’t ready?
He may be good some day but it was a stupid pick and I still maintain Shanahan wanted Jones.

100% agree!!! Plus, he’s just 21. There are guys who will be drafted in the first round with 3-4 years of experience that are 23-24 years old. Those years make a huge difference.

 

[CGI_Ram]

I have some catching up to do, but I didn‘t know Jimmy G needs surgery. This hurts his trade market.

I saw this;

Packers' Aaron Rodgers and Davante Adams plans, Bucs' post-Brady move, latest from NFL Scouting Combine

Insider Jason La Canfora gets the scoop on the biggest NFL stories from his sources in Indianapolis

www.cbssports.com

Jimmy Garoppolo requiring shoulder surgery most definitely will impact what has already been a fairly tepid trade market for him. An oft-injured player requiring another procedure, and doing so at a time when his team seeks to flip him, is not great timing. And availability has always been the issue with Jimmy G. Not having him on the field for the start of your offseason work, as your new starting quarterback after a trade, is problematic. Sources said that Garoppolo will undergo the procedure shortly and that he should be able to throw in early July and "should be full-go by the start of the regular season, or right around then," which is not ideal. Two GMs sniffing around on the quarterbacks essentially told me the same thing about what they thought of Garoppolo's value before the news of his surgery broke. "I don't think they get more than a four (fourth-round pick)," one told me. "Maybe a four that moves to a three (with incentives)," another said. Perhaps those GMs are trying to tamp down the value, but a bigger part of me believes San Francisco is facing a scenario where the returns for dealing the QB are not nearly as great as the risk of not having another QB of his caliber on the roster …

Broncos general manager George Paton made it very clear he is doing whatever he can to upgrade at quarterback, but the more he spoke the more it became clear just how difficult that will be, especially if Rodgers and Russell Wilson stay put. "We're going to be aggressive," Paton said at one point during his media availability, adding in another cliché about leaving "no stone unturned." Best put, "we're going to exhaust all options to try to get the best guy," pointing to free agency, trades and the draft. In the end, he, like other GMs, might be stuck with the draft …

Steelers outgoing GM Kevin Colbert is facing that same reality, and seems to be embracing it. "I believe it's a quality class," he said of the 2022 draft-eligible quarterbacks. "There's going to be starting NFL quarterbacks coming out of this draft." Of course, diagnosing who they are is the hard part. Personally, I would go after Jameis Winston if I was the Steelers, but regardless, Colbert is just the man to try to solve this riddle on the way out as he brings his Hall of Fame career to a close.

 

[Faceplant]

If I'm the Niners, I'd do it. And the reason is that, apparently, Trey Lance might not be all that. They have a SB ready team, EXCEPT for their QB, who is the only thing preventing them from being a serious contender.

They ARE a serious contender BECAUSE of players like Bosa. If they trade away Bosa for Brady, they are weakening that team as a whole. I hope to GOD they do it.

The Rams are a better team regardless, but they are FAR better if the whiners trade away key pieces for a 75 year old QB that doesn't even fit their scheme....