League getting rid of wonderlic?

[Selassie I]

4 was skipped

Haha

I caught that and edited my post before you helped me figure out my mistake.

 

[Dodgersrf]

Haha

I caught that and edited my post before you helped me figure out my mistake.

I almost went with 12, but caught in in time.

 

[kurtfaulk]

Shouldn't be hard for a team to tell if a guy isn't bright.

the titans found it difficult.

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[AvengerRam]

View: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=4ZfpwfQ58Ds

 

[Loyal]

6?

I beat ya, @Dodgersrf by 40 some odd minutes!

 

[Angry Ram]

Comes down to application. I am sure that admissions folks in colleges value having that tool for example.

That was only a very small portion. I remember taking the ACT 3 different times, and lets just say i couldn't crack above 25 while all the other seniors were getting pissed they got a 34 instead of a 35. I still got in.

My low score had no say on getting my undergrad or my graduate degree.

 

[Merlin]

graduate schools

Why would they care about your SATs. They would have your performance in a good sample size to draw data on whether you belong in that program. Doesn't really wash as an argument.

I mean you can argue that there are different kinds of intelligence. Sure there are. Doesn't mean I don't want to know how book smart the draft picks are. So instead of removing a test that tells me something, I would instead be adding other tests that let me see more.

 

[Ram_Rally]

Why would they care about your SATs. They would have your performance in a good sample size to draw data on whether you belong in that program. Doesn't really wash as an argument.

I mean you can argue that there are different kinds of intelligence. Sure there are. Doesn't mean I don't want to know how book smart the draft picks are. So instead of removing a test that tells me something, I would instead be adding other tests that let me see more.

That's kind of my point though. If you see on film that the player can play why would a test score tell you anything different? Just like graduate school, you've already seen the player perform with a large enough sample size.

Nothing wrong but having tests. But having tests that tell you nothing about how well a football player plays football seems kind of silly to me. Because what he's able to do with book smarts has absolutely zero bearing on what he can do on the football field. If there were a positive correlation between wunderlich scores and football performance then I would agree with you but clearly that's not the case.

 

[Merlin]

That's kind of my point though. If you see on film that the player can play why would a test score tell you anything different? Just like graduate school, you've already seen the player perform with a large enough sample size.

Nothing wrong but having tests. But having tests that tell you nothing about how well a football player plays football seems kind of silly to me. Because what he's able to do with book smarts has absolutely zero bearing on what he can do on the football field. If there were a positive correlation between wunderlich scores and football performance then I would agree with you but clearly that's not the case.

Do you think these guys don't have to learn? Saying these tests tell you nothing about how well a football player plays... Draft picks are a big deal dude. Teams invest their time and capital into these guys. If one test can tell me how studious a guy is then that is valuable.

But anyway. We're just talking past each other here. I think it's dumb to remove a test that gives you insight to a guy you're going to invest in. In fact I think there should be more intellect tests administered to these guys. This is big money and dreams for everyone involved, not just the players who might dislike sitting down for 30 minutes and using their noodles.

 

[Tano]

I think it's 12


No... 4 is 12

3 is 6.

I think you're right.

It's 6 being a certified genius myself

 

[Juice]

It's time. Maybe 25 years ago the Wonderlic was helping NFL executives out, but there is probably more to offer front offices these days. Reporting on someone's Wonderlic report in the press is very shady and unbecoming in my opinion. Some people can take these types of tests better than others. Some can ball better than they take THESE type of tests. I'd like for someone to show me where it really helped out any NFL organization in the last 10 years.

 

[Ram_Rally]

Do you think these guys don't have to learn? Saying these tests tell you nothing about how well a football player plays... Draft picks are a big deal dude. Teams invest their time and capital into these guys. If one test can tell me how studious a guy is then that is valuable.

But anyway. We're just talking past each other here. I think it's dumb to remove a test that gives you insight to a guy you're going to invest in. In fact I think there should be more intellect tests administered to these guys. This is big money and dreams for everyone involved, not just the players who might dislike sitting down for 30 minutes and using their noodles.

Of course they have to learn. But they're more inclined to learn about something that's relevant to them. So if the wondering score was all football related questions then I'd understand. Also it's noteworthy that most NFL teams don't actually weigh the wonderlic score very highly anyway. I just googled it and found that GM's and scout teams are more likely to use your film and your sparq scores as opposed to your wonder look score. But again I think that's because in modern days we realize that the water looks gore tells you nothing about a football players ability.

But yeah we Can to agree to disagree. Just a difference of opinion. That's all fair! That's all fair!

 

[Karate61]

Haha

I caught that and edited my post before you helped me figure out my mistake.

Don't Ever​

Take the Wonderlic!​

 

[jacktheripper85]

All I remember is Tavon got a 7 and going uh oh

To be fair though - they should only release the scores to certain individuals on each football team but that would probably still have too much possibility of being inappropriately released

Yeah, I heard that when Tavon’s agent told him he had to take the Wonderlic test that he thought he was going to be competing in an ice cream eating contest.

 

[JYB]

There's been players that had really high scores and didn't pan out. So it goes both ways, I don't see the applicability. Interviews and personal behavior go a long way than some stupid multiple choice test.

Maybe, but shouldn't that be up to teams to decide what kind of importance to place on it?

 

[Angry Ram]

Maybe, but shouldn't that be up to teams to decide what kind of importance to place on it?

Maybe. A standardized test vs how quickly a player can memorize a playbook don't really go hand in hand does it?

It's like giving a shop student and a seasoned auto mechanic a standardized test to figure out how to repair a carborator. The student can memorize the entire step by step process but the mechanic would probably do it faster.

Maybe that's a bad analogy. I just think w/ life in general intelligence and practicality don't go hand and hand, but sure as hell can't be determined from multiple choice.

 

[BriansRams]

I think it's 12


No... 4 is 12

3 is 6.

I think you're right.

Math is racist.

 

[Fatboy]

I have seen plenty of " If you can solve this puzzle you are a "genius" puzzles on facebook


Teams should just use those !!!

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[LouisvilleRam]

9

and then 2=4 ?

 

[Neil039]

“The league also plans to eliminate the Wonderlic test for prospective players”

NFL teams could lose pick for interview conduct

The NFL has issued a warning to teams that they could lose a draft pick and face significant fines if club representatives conduct themselves unprofessionally in interviews with draft prospects.

www.espn.com

Looks like Community College for @Loyal