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McVay is already reported to have struck a friendship with Bill.
His son actually could be a possiblity, imo.
Not that I like it.

I reached to like your post and then stopped and thought about that and then wanted to unlike. But if it makes the team better... but then we have to cheer for a Belichek... better team.... Belicheck... fuck I’m in an unstoppable paradox of confusion!!!!!
 

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Some thoughts on the questions surrounding the future Rams D 43 vs 34 I see no concerns with our interior signed DL'ers that can play in the 43 D in 2020.

Naturally Aaron Donald would return to his natural 3 tech post that he played in 2014 thur 2016. Tanzel Smart would be entering his 4th NFL season would be AD's back up.

The other 43 D starting post would have three very young DT's competing for that position. Greg Gaines, SJ-D & Marquise Copeland, all of which will be entering their 2nd season.

The very big real concern would be the two starting 43 D ends. In truth the Rams do not have any bona fide starters. 2nd season Justin Lawler who does have 43 DE size 6-4/265 is signed. Another potential prospect would be Landis Durham who was a PS player this past season. Durham has some size @ 6-3 260. I expect that Og Okoronwko who is over 6-2/255 would start @ the RDE post in 2020.

I would also expect that RFA Morgan Fox 6-3 275 lbs would stand a better chance to be resigned IF the Rams did shift to a 43 D Fox would be the probable top starting prospect @ LDE. Fox would be entering his 5th season in the NFL in 2020.


Nice breakdown Boni. Let's not forget Jachai Polite who played at around 238Lbs in college. It's hard to know where these guys are after a year or two in the NFL as far as weight. I think these guys are on the lighter side. It seems like DEs are getting bigger. When I have some time I will look it up. Did a little research and it seems that the average is 278 Lbs. The Rams did do a little four down lineman later in the season. I think they could have a mixed defense until they can gear up for the 4-3. We have to see how they can manage the roster with cap restrengthens.
 

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Curious if Fowler could be similar to Leonard Little in terms of a speed rushing DE.

Although I still tag & trade him if possible. If you get a #2, there will be some good 4/3 DE prospects in that area of the draft.
 

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I think that's a misconception due to Wade's hybrid 3-4, and we do have the bigger nose tackles, and I don't think you're getting any bigger with a 4-3 front anyway. Traditionally, in 3-4 Donald is a DE, and in 4-3 he's your DT, and in a hybrid it's really not much different because almost everyone is playing one gap anyway.

But the 4-3 tackles are typically smaller and faster than 3-4 ends. So our problem stopping the run was really more to do with size and gap responsibility in Wade's hybrid 3-4.

I think it's all about where you want Donald to play, because I think he can be a total nightmare from 3T or 5T. Also, SJD proved this season that he is more than adequate at 1T and 0T with Gaines providing solid competition and possible 3T as well.

Even Wade's 3-4 under was successful stopping the run when the right players were out there, but he was playing wack a mole with prioritizing the run/pass, and I think a lot of that was due to the secondary.
Good breakdown, I just feel it's very hard to find 3-4 linebackers that can pressure the passer and set the edge on the run . The guys greenbay has are perfect, but I dont think we can run that scheme with the guys we had last season. I think Fowler would excel as a 4-3 end with donald in the middle .

We will see
 

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The ONLY real knock I had on Wade was it took him too long to make adjustments...and I hated that "split tackles" defensive front "XX XX". Almost every they used that defensive front alignment they got gashed! I HATED IT.

Anyhow...you have to be able to adjust on the fly...and Wade rarely did that. It would take halftime to really adjust most times.
 

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4-3 or 3-4

Whichever D is best suited for Donald is the D they should run.

Build around Donald. Don’t nullify the best D player in the NFL.

Please hire accordingly.

I don't think it matters. AD transcends the scheme.
 

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It seems we kept making D aquisitions or deals under Wade that ended up not fitting his scheme. Peters for one. Suh another. Ogletree could be counted as they gave him a big deal only to then bail. Joyner they tagged and then he had a bad year. We let go Quinn and now he had a big year. Not to mention Peters is all pro this year with the Ravens. I can see why they let Wade go.
 

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If Fisher was any good, he'd have had offers by now. It's been - what - three years? And he's said he wants back in.

Nope, nobody has even sniffed as far I can tell.

Williams has stayed employed, Fisher remains unemployed.

Tells you all you need to know. Hard pass.

He would probably only take a HC job. As a DC, he would be great, but I'm not sure his ego would allow that.
 

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If they stay in the 3-4 hybrid system I think Pete Kwiatkowski might be in consideration for DC. He runs a prostyle defensive scheme at U Washington. Both Snead and McVay have a very good relationship with him....note Gaines, & Rapp and has long been assumed he was the insider source of info on Washington players.

I would be surprised if Joe Cullen wasn't under consideration for the DC position. He's been a d-line coach for 3 years in Baltimore. The Raven's run the same defense that Wade runs. The Ravens began to run the 3-4 hybrid under Chuck Pagano who by the way is John Pagano's brother. John is the guy that taught both Rivera and Wade the 3-4 hybrid system. John BTW is available to be a DC as he's listed in Houston as a defensive consultant as he teaches them the scheme.

What I think caused them to move on from Wade was his reluctance to play younger players such as Gaines, and Long, favoring guys like Hill and SJD who both were poor fits for the scheme. Hill looked better because it played to his strength as a zone type CB at the expense of Ramsey and Long who are press man coverage CBs. SJD proved over and over he was weak against the run which was exploited all season long. He played Weddle when it was clear Christian was the better player. He was frustrating Ebukam pulling him in favor of his favorite Mathews who also like SJD was weak at the POA on runs. Ebukam is clearly the better player but he received fewer snaps. IMO that is the kind of things that got Wade fired.

McVay wants to play press man coverage outside and aggressive penetrating attacking defense with his front 7.
 

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4-3 or 3-4

Whichever D is best suited for Donald is the D they should run.

Build around Donald. Don’t nullify the best D player in the NFL.

Please hire accordingly.
He'll probably keep doing the same thing as he's done which is 3T and get moved around from time to time to get desired matchups. The basic defense isn't too critical wrt him as long as they don't have him playing 2-gap or on the nose neither of which will happen.

I see McVay bringing in a young DC to run the "Rams' defense" which will probably be a modified 3-4 with a little more zone blitz and aggressive pattern matching particularly on the short routes.

The only "old guy" who might fit what I think he's looking for is Dom Capers but only way he'd hire him is if McVay wants him to teach him the finer points of zone blitz approach. Which is unlikely because McVay is smart enough to pick whatever mind he needs to not to mention research what he needs to without hiring for it.

Oh and btw... AD is athletic enough for a zone blitz. The guy could undoubtedly drop if he needed to, not that I'd want him to or anything but wrinkles like that can cause chaos if the line call is to have him triple teamed... :ROFLMAO:
 

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Wade Phillips will always be a legend in my eyes, genuinely speaking

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McVay enjoys a 35-17 record, a .673% in his first 3 years as a head coach. He has earned the right to choose his own staff going forward. A couple of his chosen offensive assistants are already head coaches.
Feel very confident he will choose wisely.
 
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About Wade’s replacement? I hope we go back to more of a 4-3 base. I’m going to keep it short and sweet. I want someone who is big on fundamentals and won’t hesitate too give a player who messes up “the business“ on the sideline. I feel that has been lacking.
 

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With our offense we do not need a top 5 defense. We just need a capable defense that won't be giving up 44 points in crucial games to a struggling offense. Or give up 55 points when our offense scores 40. Or give up consecutive 3rd and 16 plays in an elimination game. Just do your damn job!
 

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4-3 or 3-4

Whichever D is best suited for Donald is the D they should run.

Build around Donald. Don’t nullify the best D player in the NFL.

Please hire accordingly.

Donald is a beast !! He will be fine in Any D!!
Just need to find a big DT