LA Rams LB Coach Joe Barry signs new contract to return

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Joe Barry runs both a standard 3-4 and a hybrid 3-4 so he understands the differences. He also was on the redskins staff at the same time as McVay. That said his first year as DC Barry's unit finished 28th overall. His second and last year they improved to 19th. His success is primarily on the college level and IMO he's one of those coaches best suited for that level of play. He's not a successful NFL level DC IMO. If Snead is truly committed to a championship-caliber defense then I simply don't see him as the guy they need. I think this interview is due diligence as Barry is being looked at by USC. I think they already know who they want and it's why they were comfortable in not extending Wade. They cut him loose early as a goodwill gesture to allow him to sign elsewhere.

On the other hand I'm not happy they are keeping Kromer and Dickerson. It's imperative that the o-line improve their gap blocking and inside zone technique. That lack of fundamentals is the problem in the run attack. Too many times the o-line looks confused as to who blocks who.

IMO they need to start calling out the MIKE before the snap. The MIKE in blocking assignment calls isn't pointing out the middle LB. Rather it IDs the focal point of the blocking assignments. The blockers know where their assignment block is in relationship to the MIKE call. This way even if the defense aligns in an unexpected way the blockers know who they need to block. The fact they don't do this routinely is Kromer's fault and his failure alone. It's why the 0-line looks confused as the defensive front 7 aligns in unexpected ways. There is no question that DC's have noted this and use it to their advantage. This MIKE call is especially helpful when you have young inexperienced players. They didn't need it last year because they had a veteran o-line.

The reason I have said many of the o-line issues can be traced to bad blocking calls by the o-line is because when you watch the o-line pre-snap you see the center and usually the RG pointing just prior to the snap. They are making the MIKE call. If the blocking is messed up like too often it is then the call was wrong. Again another indicator that the coaching is bad.

Merlin in his excellent breakdowns has pointed out multiple instances of missed assignment blocks. So it's not like it's not evident to the coaching staff who are supposed to break down the blocking on each play. But again from game to game the issue continues. This is why I've been saying that Blythe has been culpable in those bad calls both while at RG and Center.
 

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And I agree with Merlin the 3-4 hybrid gives you the best of a 4-3 and 3-4 schemes. It gives you a 4 man front look but you don't know if that OLB aligned as a DE is actually going to come or drop off and the 4th rusher is the SAM. With Ebukam as the SAM you have a good pass rushing LB.
 

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Am I the only one that doesn't get the deep disdain for Joe Berry?

Can someone break down what he has done that makes him so revolting to many? For those, like myself, who are in the dark it would be really nice to know.

Thanks in advance
 

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Am I the only one that doesn't get the deep disdain for Joe Berry?

Can someone break down what he has done that makes him so revolting to many? For those, like myself, who are in the dark it would be really nice to know.

Thanks in advance
It largely is a result of this.


Those defenses were better before him and got better after him.
 

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I have to think McVay is looking for someone cerebral, who can deep dive the defensive gameplan each week. That is certainly not Barry.

What surprises me is there haven't been any other offensive staff departing other than the RB coach. Hard to believe he is happy with the pass and run game coordination he got from his staff in 2019 so I'd also think changes are coming there.
 

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I have to think McVay is looking for someone cerebral, who can deep dive the defensive gameplan each week. That is certainly not Barry.

What surprises me is there haven't been any other offensive staff departing other than the RB coach. Hard to believe he is happy with the pass and run game coordination he got from his staff in 2019 so I'd also think changes are coming there.

I don't think he's going to dump people on the offensive staff just yet. You're forgetting that he promoted from within when it came to OC and QB coaches. He lost people previously but never replaced. So he's still able to add staff without having to fire or let go of the current staff
 

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It largely is a result of this.


Those defenses were better before him and got better after him.

Thanks,
Personally I don't see why you get rid of Wade and then go in-house - so I don't want Joe Barry -- but the stats that you send really don't tell me anything, or I am not reading the numbers all that great.
The guy seems to have worked with some great coaches. Are those coaches stupid? Why do they keep hiring this cat?
Is there anything more? I mean he was our linebackers coach the entire McVay era - what specifically has he done or not done? I know there must be some specifics that makes everyone so down on the guy.
I mean I didn't hear anything about this disdain until this year. I thought Littleton played great this year. Does he get any credit for that? Just looking for something specific. For example if someone says I don't like Tre Mason, I know exactly why someone wouldn't like Mason, etc...
Educate me here
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I know I'm old and cranky, but Barry for DC reminds me of the way I felt about Martz hiring Marmie, hopefully if it comes to fruition, I'm wrong.
 

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Quiet/slow would seem we have another option in mind other than in house, IMO.

And, I tend to agree... if you let go of Wade... wouldn’t that mean you want an outside influence?
 

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Somehow when I think of Assistant HC Joe Barry .....brings to mind & makes me think Barry is a Sgt O'Neil type guy like in the movie Platoon. McVay is Sgt Barnes


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WOkWg2d2W4g


If McVay is Barnes
And Barry is O’Neil
That means Wade must be Elias :D

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REPORT: Browns Eyeing Phillips and Barry
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REPORT: Late Monday night Dustin Fox, Browns analyst for 92.3, is reporting Andrew Berry and Wade Phillips will be in Cleveland.
Hearing Andrew Berry and Wade Phillips will be in Cleveland.
— Dustin Fox (@DustinFox37) January 14, 2020

This information is a little ambiguous. Dustin Fox is reporting both will be in Cleveland and not that both are signing with Cleveland.

If you are following reports, you know Andrew Berry, vice president of football operations for the Philadelphia Eagles, is the presumed frontrunner for the general manager job with the Cleveland Browns.

Also mentioned in the report, Wade Phillips has been linked to the Cleveland Browns as a possible new defensive coordinator. Phillips was last a defensive coordinator for the Los Angeles Rams in 2019. Phillips is linked to Stefanski by Stefanski's mentor with the Minnesota Vikings, Gary Kubiak.
 

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If McVay is Barnes
And Barry is O’Neil
That means Wade must be Elias :D

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Sgt. McVay:
Y'all loved Elias. And you want to kick ass. Yeah. Well, here I am, all by my lonesome. And there ain't anybody gonna know. Six of you boys against me. Kill me.

Sgt. McVay:
Yeah. I shit on all of you!
 

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Thread title needs to be changed: I thought for a moment that Joe Barry was being looked at by Cleveland, not Andrew Berry.