I'm not digging this trade sorry!

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HE WITH HORNS

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Wow. To each their own, but I don't agree with this AT ALL. It's not like we're the Patriots or Steelers or even dare i say the Niners or Cowboys or Packers with substantial trophy cases.

It's just a couple picks and a very good older player on an expiring deal. Give the fans a Lombardi.

I said not a GREAT deal, would be good if we win the SB. But I don't want to see him walk either, we have to resign him and win the big game to make it a great deal.
 

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I said not a GREAT deal, would be good if we win the SB. But I don't want to see him walk either, we have to resign him and win the big game to make it a great deal.
Maybe i misunderstood i'm still not sure. No worries.

Dude, i'd take a Lombardi even if AD suddenly retired after. I'm hungry.
 

RAMSinLA

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Its Lombardi or bust time.
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Wow. To each their own, but I don't agree with this AT ALL. It's not like we're the Patriots or Steelers or even dare i say the Niners or Cowboys or Packers with substantial trophy cases.

It's just a couple picks and a very good older player on an expiring deal. Give the fans a Lombardi.
I agree. If Von impacts the run to include a Lombardi then it was worth it. These Trophy's are exceedingly difficult to obtain when you consider injuries and the competitive landscape. Especially in the NFC.
 

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Still give the deal a big thumbs up.:thumbsup1:

Realistically the defense hasn't been anywhere near dominating against some average teams this year. The belief is that Miller can make a big difference on the defense with both his pass-rushing and run-stopping ability. Adding Miller upgrades everyone on the defense. There are no guarantees that Von Miller brings the Rams a championship. He is well worth the cost of second and third-round pick to greatly increase the chances of winning the Lombardi Trophy.
 

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I look at it like this. For years we picked high in the draft and it got us nothing. Now we do what it takes to win and no longer
worry about future picks, that may or may not help the team sometime in the future.
As someone that remembers the joys of 1999, and also now that I am getting older, I would rather see our team win now rather than after more of our faithful have left this realm, or possibly even never.
 

sloramfan

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tempest said it on page oneof this thread...

the rams read the probabilities of a deep run, and read it right...

against dallas, greenbay, arizona, or whomever, pressure is key...

and they did something about it...

now let's go finish this...

go rams

slo
 

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Fans: “We want our team to do everything in its power to win now!”

Team: “We made a big trade!”

Most Fans: “YES!”

A few fans: “I don’t like it.”

Is anyone surprised?
 

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Fans: “We want our team to do everything in its power to win now!”

Team: “We made a big trade!”

Most Fans: “YES!”

A few fans: “I don’t like it.”

Is anyone surprised?
Some people should have their gravestone read "Here I lay. I expected it to happen. And it did!"
 

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He's not the Von Miller, circa 2015 but $700,000 for 9 games? If he is half what he used to be, it's worth it. A "valuable" 2nd and 3rd round pick? We got Higbee in the 4th, Edwards in the 5th, Fuller and SeBass in the 6th. Besides, we still have a 3rd and we'll be getting another one, a 4th and a 6th in comps more than likely. Draft picks are OVERRATED.
 

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Even if Von isn't good anyone, he still demands respect. Whenever he's on the field, the QB and O line will look for his and adjust their protection. That makes things difficult if Von is over the RT, and Donald and Floyd are over the left side of the line. I don't think anyone is doing that for Lewis and Obo yet.
 

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To be clear, it's on Denvers cap. But its accounting magic and the point is, we are living above our means this year.

My point is that it is semantics. Let's say you take me to lunch (cause you're nice), and your wife gave you a budget of $50 to spend on lunch. Let's say the bill came, and because we agreed to get an appetizer it ended up being $55. You only have $50, if you spend more than $50 your wife will get real mad at you. So we can do a little bit of accounting magic:

1st option - I can give you $5. Then you can go pay the bill. Problem though! I give you $5 in cash, and you pay the whole bill on your card. Your wife gets a text notification that you spent $55 dollars. Uh-oh she's mad, even though you only spent $50 of your own money. (This example would be the case if somehow we could buy cap space from Denver, its not possible)

2nd option - You can ask the server to split the bill, you pay $50, and I'll pay $5. Your wife will get the text notification for $50 and nobody is mad. (This is what happened with Denver and Von Miller trade)

The original point is just, Option 2 is effectively like Option 1. At the end of the day, you had a $55 dollar lunch and you only had to pay $50 dollars. That's it, that was the point. Talk on actual cap implications were outside of that original point
If your wife gets mad at you for spending five bucks more than agreed, I’d want a trade.
 

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Our picks will be late anyway. The future is now. If this pushes the Rams over the edge, it is a small price to pay. My only fear is that Von Miller might be a "has been", and is just living off name recognition at this point / won't actually improve our roster. If that happens, we really screwed up trading away two decently high picks. Some Broncos fans are saying that Miller has been meh for a few years now. Time will tell. I am optimistic. Playing next to Aaron Donald will maximise anyone's game. Miller has elite level talent. I think he will make a big impact. But the trade is not without risk.
I don’t see it as that risky, that’s how great AD and Floyd and even Fowler have been. Clay Mathews got 10 sacks basically just knowing where to stand and after a year they moved on cuz he didn’t seem interested in tackling. We’ll find out where Von is compared to mvp Von but I think he’ll make an actual effort to fit into the defense. Even if he only reduces AD’s snaps going into the playoffs it’s a good thing.
 

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It’s also insurance against a freak injury like last year, that defense may have been able to carry the rams to the SB last year until AD got hurt.
Well that is the issue that I believe The Rams solve with Von Miller.
Veteran leadership makes all the difference. The growth of a guy like Terrel Lewis & even a Garrett.