I'm not digging this trade sorry!

[Malibu]

We all know how great Von is that is not the issue for me.

Short term he will most likely be a plus, but long-term we lose 2 more semi valuable draft picks and to me he is oh the backside of his career I could be wrong, but I don't think I am.

We imo should want Howard or Jack you pay for them but we get a solid 4 plus top notch play out of them. How much longer do we keep Von? We need depth always and we are killing what little draft capital we have. I'm d gladly pay for a stud in his prime like Ramsey was. That was Von 6 years ago at age 26 now he is 32 no disrespect i truly wish you the best. Honestly it is not about the picks, it's a the logic behind this deal why. I get short term as I said but what about the future. He is not the future that is why I think it was a bad move.

 

[Ram Ts]

The future is now dude

 

[Riverumbbq]

We all know how great Von is that is not the issue for me.

Short term he will most likely be a plus, but long-term we lose 2 more semi valuable draft picks and to me he is oh the backside of his career I could be wrong, but I don't think I am.

We imo should want Howard or Jack you pay for them but we get a solid 4 plus top notch play out of them. How much longer do we keep Von? We need depth always and we are killing what little draft capital we have. I'm d gladly pay for a stud in his prime like Ramsey was. That was Von 6 years ago at age 26 now he is 32 no disrespect i truly wish you the best. Honestly it is not about the picks, it's a the logic behind this deal why. I get short term as I said but what about the future. He is not the future that is why I think it was a bad move.

I'd love to get this season and perhaps a couple more out of Von, he's still a great player. Our rotation at OLB is now the deepest in the NFL, and this includes the likely loss of Obo to free agency after the year is done. With Justin Hollins, Terrell Lewis, Chris Garrett, Jamir Jones, Justin Lawler, & Leonard Floyd, re-signing Von Miller settles this position for the next few years. jmo.

 

[Mackeyser]

We all know how great Von is that is not the issue for me.

Short term he will most likely be a plus, but long-term we lose 2 more semi valuable draft picks and to me he is oh the backside of his career I could be wrong, but I don't think I am.

We imo should want Howard or Jack you pay for them but we get a solid 4 plus top notch play out of them. How much longer do we keep Von? We need depth always and we are killing what little draft capital we have. I'm d gladly pay for a stud in his prime like Ramsey was. That was Von 6 years ago at age 26 now he is 32 no disrespect i truly wish you the best. Honestly it is not about the picks, it's a the logic behind this deal why. I get short term as I said but what about the future. He is not the future that is why I think it was a bad move.

We don't know how the Rams evaluated Jack, we don't know if Jack was truly available or even within our price range.

We made the deal we made and we don't know even a small amount of the information the Rams used to make this decision.

All we can do is to have faith that it will work.

Will it be more Matt Stafford or more JJ Watt... I'm thinking much more Matt Stafford due to our Sports Medicine, coaching and scheme.

 

[Kupped]

We don't know how the Rams evaluated Jack, we don't know if Jack was truly available or even within our price range.

We made the deal we made and we don't know even a small amount of the information the Rams used to make this decision.

All we can do is to have faith that it will work.

Will it be more Matt Stafford or more JJ Watt... I'm thinking much more Matt Stafford due to our Sports Medicine, coaching and scheme.

Jack?
Why would the Rams, this organization, make that trade?

Pass rushers, Edge, corner. QB, LT, WR… those are the priorities.

 

[Kupped]

We don't know how the Rams evaluated Jack, we don't know if Jack was truly available or even within our price range.

We made the deal we made and we don't know even a small amount of the information the Rams used to make this decision.

All we can do is to have faith that it will work.

Will it be more Matt Stafford or more JJ Watt... I'm thinking much more Matt Stafford due to our Sports Medicine, coaching and scheme.

I know that wasn’t your suggestion, btw.

 

[Elmgrovegnome]

We all know how great Von is that is not the issue for me.

Short term he will most likely be a plus, but long-term we lose 2 more semi valuable draft picks and to me he is oh the backside of his career I could be wrong, but I don't think I am.

We imo should want Howard or Jack you pay for them but we get a solid 4 plus top notch play out of them. How much longer do we keep Von? We need depth always and we are killing what little draft capital we have. I'm d gladly pay for a stud in his prime like Ramsey was. That was Von 6 years ago at age 26 now he is 32 no disrespect i truly wish you the best. Honestly it is not about the picks, it's a the logic behind this deal why. I get short term as I said but what about the future. He is not the future that is why I think it was a bad move.

I get the concern. I wasn’t crazy about it either, at first. If Miller can come in at 75% production of his younger years that will be a big boost to the team. His leadership will help also. It’s hard to name another player that would be available that could potentially have the same impact as Miller does.

It’s hard to win it all. So much has to go right and unlike 2018 the NFC is loaded with good teams. Arizona, Dallas, Green Bay, Tampa Bay are all stacked ( not Green Bay as much but Rodgers makes up for that) The hurdle to get to the Super Bowl is higher this year for the Rams. This kind of move has that and only that in mind. Teams that are close know when they need to sacrifice some of the future. It’s a very deep draft anyway and the Rams still have a lot of picks.

The Rams have several great players. They just got Stafford. This is not a one and done kind of move. I’m sure they are planning to keep as many of the key pieces together as possible in the off-season. We are still looking at a 3-5 year run of vying for the SB.

 

[Liberator]

The Rams will pick 10+ times in the draft this year.

 

[Flint]

It’s also insurance against a freak injury like last year, that defense may have been able to carry the rams to the SB last year until AD got hurt.

 

[Mackeyser]

Jack?
Why would the Rams, this organization, make that trade?

Pass rushers, Edge, corner. QB, LT, WR… those are the priorities.

Myles Jack, OLB, Jacksonville was supposedly on the block and there were rumors of us maybe packaging DJax and picks for him... especially as Urban Meyer has eluded to acquiring a deep threat and Myles Jack hasn't had a great year this year and the rumors were flying.

I dunno which Jack you were thinking I meant, but it was Myles Jack and he's an Edge.

 

[XXXIVwin]

We all know how great Von is that is not the issue for me.

Short term he will most likely be a plus, but long-term we lose 2 more semi valuable draft picks and to me he is oh the backside of his career I could be wrong, but I don't think I am.

We imo should want Howard or Jack you pay for them but we get a solid 4 plus top notch play out of them. How much longer do we keep Von? We need depth always and we are killing what little draft capital we have. I'm d gladly pay for a stud in his prime like Ramsey was. That was Von 6 years ago at age 26 now he is 32 no disrespect i truly wish you the best. Honestly it is not about the picks, it's a the logic behind this deal why. I get short term as I said but what about the future. He is not the future that is why I think it was a bad move.

I've got a feeling you'll change your mind. McSnead have chosen to pay a hefty price for PROVEN premier talent.

Stafford trade-- home run. Ramsey trade-- home run. Miller trade? We'll see, but not doubt he is PROVEN.

Many of the other potential trade targets-- Myles Jack, Marcus Maye, Kyle Fuller-- all those guys had serious red-flags and problems with downside risk.

As for draft capital, I honestly think Snead/MCVay have a long term answer for roster building for the next few years. They're setting up a roster model that consists of a few superstars combined with hitting on mid-round picks and finding low-round and UFA gems.

As for the Rams draft in 2022: they are projected to have one pick in rounds 3, 4, and 5, then four picks in round 6, and two in round 7. Still enough ammo to hit on a few mid to late round gems. Jordan Fuller, Robert Rochell, SJD, David Edwards, Obo, Greg Gaines... Rams have a proven track record of finding solid players in rounds 4-6.

 

[Kupped]

Myles Jack, OLB, Jacksonville was supposedly on the block and there were rumors of us maybe packaging DJax and picks for him... especially as Urban Meyer has eluded to acquiring a deep threat and Myles Jack hasn't had a great year this year and the rumors were flying.

I dunno which Jack you were thinking I meant, but it was Myles Jack and he's an Edge.

Oh, goodness, no.
He’s got 6.5 sacks in his career.
He’s an ILB in the Rams D.. an OLB in a 4-3.

 

[PressureD41]

I've got a feeling you'll change your mind. McSnead have chosen to pay a hefty price for PROVEN premier talent.

Stafford trade-- home run. Ramsey trade-- home run. Miller trade? We'll see, but not doubt he is PROVEN.

Many of the other potential trade targets-- Myles Jack, Marcus Maye, Kyle Fuller-- all those guys had serious red-flags and problems with downside risk.

As for draft capital, I honestly think Snead/MCVay have a long term answer for roster building for the next few years. They're setting up a roster model that consists of a few superstars combined with hitting on mid-round picks and finding low-round and UFA gems.

As for the Rams draft in 2022: they are projected to have one pick in rounds 3, 4, and 5, then four picks in round 6, and two in round 7. Still enough ammo to hit on a few mid to late round gems. Jordan Fuller, Robert Rochell, SJD, David Edwards, Obo, Greg Gaines... Rams have a proven track record of finding solid players in rounds 4-6.

This, and Les has been good at finding UDFA's too.

What we need to understand is their draft board for players projected on day 3, they triple check these players & focus having their scouts all seeing them to give them the best info come draft board season. Since they don't worry as much as the top 60-75 prospects. Then can spend more time on day 3 targets then the rest of the league.
#Facts #Truth

 

[Picked4td]

Myles Jack, OLB, Jacksonville was supposedly on the block and there were rumors of us maybe packaging DJax and picks for him... especially as Urban Meyer has eluded to acquiring a deep threat and Myles Jack hasn't had a great year this year and the rumors were flying.

I dunno which Jack you were thinking I meant, but it was Myles Jack and he's an Edge.

myles jack is most certainly not an edge. hes an ILB, and a darn good one but not a position the rams pay for under McSnead

 

[So Ram]

Oh, goodness, no.
He’s got 6.5 sacks in his career.
He’s an ILB in the Rams D.. an OLB in a 4-3.

You can’t compare the 2 players.

Von Miller is one of the Greats all-time.An MVP SuperBowl winner.

His passion & leadership is priceless.Then again Denver ate 9 million out of 9.9 million to make it happen.

DJ1 ? I don’t know what will happen there.Mcvay talked about depth. Ben Sko is good.

Flioyd imo goes to the ROLB / edge ?
Troy Reederbis better than some think.Was nice to see Ernest Brown step up.

 

[bluecoconuts]

If washed up Clay Matthews could have an impact for us, then Von Miller will definitely have one.

 

[tempests]

I am. Von has long been one of my favourite non-Ram players in the NFL.

I know he's not 2015 Von Miller anymore, but I do believe he has more than enough in the tank to help us make a SB run. Will be a real shot in the arm for our defensive front, especially in the playoffs.

I like that the Rams read the conference accurately, that with GB, TB, Dallas and Arizona, a strong pass rush is key to winning games against them. And I like that the Rams are saying that having the best record in football is not enough, they are not resting on their laurels. As long as we're going all in, let's go all in.

Don't know about beyond this season, I don't know the future. But I like this move for 2021.

 

[CGI_Ram]

I like that the Rams read the conference accurately, that with GB, TB, Dallas and Arizona, a strong pass rush is key to winning games against them.

This appears to be it.

 

[ramsplaya16]

I would much rather the Rams go absolutely all in and try everything to win a SB in the next year or two, rather than fall short and say “if only we had another pass rusher” or whatever…

Our mid-late round drafting has been fantastic, so no complaints from me really. Von is going to get a lot of 1 on 1’s, with him and Floyd and Donald, offenses are really going to struggle.

 

[TheTackle]

I was amazed but with the Broncos paying his salary this still allows us to resign our own pending FAs now while adding a huge piece to our D this season

The money we no longer have tied up with future rookie contracts can now be factored in to pending FA deals

We are already extremely deep across the board (baring present injuries) with the exception of kick returner, and so does future draft capital outweigh what we have now?

In my view, if Raymond Calais was healthy and returning kicks we would be rolling in all three phases. So, can we add someone to the roster who can make us better in that department now? If so, I would trade another future draft pick