Hekker First Down

[OldSchool]

A momentum and game changing call. And there were many of them.

 

[Ellard80]

Sorry I love McVay.. but he needed to lose his shit on that call.

He needed to be yelling at them before they even went to review it "He extended the ball before he was down! Way before he was down! C'mon guys - you have to be kidding me!"

Playing the officials is a part of coaching.

 

[Ellard80]

Thought it was a horrible call.. I think it's a bit on Hekker. He kind of slowed up to avoid contact and extended the ball, which put the decision in the officials perspective.

Though I understood why he did that he didn't want to get killed.

 

[MadGoat]

Thought it was a horrible call.. I think it's a bit on Hekker. He kind of slowed up to avoid contact and extended the ball, which put the decision in the officials perspective.

Though I understood why he did that he didn't want to get killed.

Yeah, he didn't exactly lower the boom there, but he did more than 99% of punters would have done in that situation and still walked away from it.

 

[Ellard80]

Yeah, he didn't exactly lower the boom there, but he did more than 99% of punters would have done in that situation and still walked away from it.

He kind of decelerated also as he was approaching the sideline. I was expecting him to dive.

That being said though his plan worked.

 

[FaulkSF]

I also wanted to point out Blythe missed a seal block he could have taken after Hekker started running. Hekker may have been able to jog into the end zone. It's about execution, we couldn't do that Sunday.

 

[dieterbrock]

When Periera says it should be overturned, you know it should have been
At the very least they could have moved the ball a half yard closer, the spot is so bad.

 

[snackdaddy]

I also wanted to point out Blythe missed a seal block he could have taken after Hekker started running. Hekker may have been able to jog into the end zone. It's about execution, we couldn't do that Sunday.

There will always be execution mistakes. They're magnified when it happens on a risky play like that one. The defense is the area where too many are made on a regular basis.

 

[RamFan503]

I actually think this play was really close.

During the game, I was livid because I thought it was pretty obvious that Hekker made it. But after re-watching it in slo-mo a few times, it was closer than I thought.

A couple key questions: 1. When did Hekker’s shin touch the ground? It’s possible his shin on either leg touched the ground slightly before he slid out of bounds. Hekker would be down instantly at that point because #52 on Saints pushed him. 2. How accurate was the line-to-gain on that side of the field? The guy holding the chain had to move slightly to get out of Johnny’s way.

Below is a pic that suggests the football was right AT the 12 when his shin was down.
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I still think it was a bad call, but it was closer than I originally thought.

That’s possibly the worst angle of that play and it’s STILL obvious that the ball is past where they placed it. If you combine the replay from above and the far side, it’s pretty damn clear.

 

[Dieter the Brock]

It was a 1st down
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[LesBaker]

IMO McVay should have kicked the FG. On the road you take the points and he got cute.

Hopefully he learned a lesson. Getting points off of a turnover would have kept momentum going but instead it handed it to the Saints.

 

[96GS#007]

Heard a new one on 710 AM that makes no sense to me....

On a fake kick, the ball is placed where the knee is down, not where the ball was located physically when the knee touched.

Keep in mind this is Keyshawn stating this but he was quite adamant this is the rule.

Anyone heard of this? I find it nuts, but then again look at all the rules and rule changes regarding a catch.

 

[socalrams90]

Heard a new one on 710 AM that makes no sense to me....

On a fake kick, the ball is placed where the knee is down, not where the ball was located physically when the knee touched.

Keep in mind this is Keyshawn stating this but he was quite adamant this is the rule.

Anyone heard of this? I find it nuts, but then again look at all the rules and rule changes regarding a catch.

He was wrong.

 

[DR RAM]

Usually, Mike Pereira tries to cover for the refs when he disagrees with their call. He'll state his opinion, and if it goes the opposite direction, he explains why they differed and why it is acceptable for them to see it that way. This time, he had nothing. It was an unjustifiable call. The man literally said he couldn't explain how they let it stand. I warned y'all that crew would screw us if they were given an opportunity.

This, and the crew never mentioned the bad call again, even though they referred to the missed attempt several times, and oh, by the way, Periera seemed to get booted from the booth, shortly after that. Huge missed call. I won't say it cost us the game, but major momentum....yes.

 

[KJD_Ram]

time to put a micro chip in the ball with sideline sensors...it's not that difficult...that takes A$$holes like Vinodouche out of it...

 

[Merlin]

Playing the officials is a part of coaching.

Yep. It's one of those areas where our outstanding young HC needs to improve the most.

 

[RamFanWA]

Anyone a shot of the aerial view??? that would clear things up.

 

[hotanez]

Anyone a shot of the aerial view??? that would clear things up.

really no need, trust me when I say it was clear as day

 

[RamFan503]

Anyone a shot of the aerial view??? that would clear things up.

They showed several angles during the game. That is what prompted Pererra (sp?) and the announcers - INCLUDING Joe Buck - to say that it would be overturned. It was clear to all of them including the former Vice President of officiating.

 

[Kevin]

Maybe I will be the first one to say we should have just kicked the field goal. We get a turnover and pass up a gimme three points to risk getting a first down. I was surprised to see Hekker running for it.