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I'm sorry, but you just don't pay a RB that much money. If the Cowboys give Zeke that much (even if he is the best in the league) I will be freaking ticked.
OK, sure. This comment from a guy whose team signed their kicker to a 7 year, $22,500,000 contract, including a $4,000,000 signing bonus, $6,600,000 guaranteed, and an average annual salary of $3,214,286.
 

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OK, sure. This comment from a guy whose team signed their kicker to a 7 year, $22,500,000 contract, including a $4,000,000 signing bonus, $6,600,000 guaranteed, and an average annual salary of $3,214,286.
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I was thinking mostly on career rushing yards and total career yards from scrimmage. I wasn’t thinking he would eclipse all records in all categories.
Also, Gurley most likely won't even touch Dickersons record. Unless he averaged 7 ypc. Rams are always gunna have a good ratio of pass and rush yards with McVay.
 

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I was thinking mostly on career rushing yards and total career yards from scrimmage. I wasn’t thinking he would eclipse all records in all categories.
Yeah. Definitely has a shot on those two for sure. Really tough to eclipse guys like Dickerson, Faulk and Jackson.

I do think he also has a shot at:

Career rushing touchdowns, Season rushing touchdowns (maybe as 18 is a lot by Faulk); Gurley will have one more season as a Ram over Faulk, and Rams have been a high scoring offense

Single Game Rushing Touchdowns: Doable, needs 4 to tie Faulk. Again, taking advantage of a high scoring offense going with a relentless defense giving the offense more opportunities.

Maybe shot at Season Total Yards: Last season Gurley had 2,093, only 336 behind Faulk. Gurley sat out the last game against the 9ers, but I think Faulk sat out last game in 1999 against the Eagles if my memory is correct. But, seems possible.

Single Game Total Yards: 247 or 248 to beat. Gurley could beat this if the stars align...maybe.

I'd say no shot at season rushing average or single season total yards...
 

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Forget the past. Signing Gurley to an extension has to be looked at from McVay's perspective.

How does Gurley figure in McVay's offense? What does McVay envision he can do new with Gurley's skill set and talent? In McVay's mind, Gurley must be an important piece to what he envisions his offense to be able to accomplish. McVay has an offense in mind that will be new and innovative and Gurley is an important cog in those plans.

Gurley needs to be happy for it to happen.
 

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Forget the past. Signing Gurley to an extension has to be looked at from McVay's perspective.

How does Gurley figure in McVay's offense? What does McVay envision he can do new with Gurley's skill set and talent? In McVay's mind, Gurley must be an important piece to what he envisions his offense to be able to accomplish. McVay has an offense in mind that will be new and innovative and Gurley is an important cog in those plans.

Gurley needs to be happy for it to happen.
Sounds like you're talking about how last season went...lol!
 

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Karate, McVay is just getting started. This kid has stuff running through his head that he would like to try that is going to set the NFL and defensive cordinators on their collective ears. Once he knows what his pieces on the field can and can't do, he's going to formulate plays no one has seen before. The guy dreams in 3D football. I just glad I'm still around to witness a football savant.

(yes, just drank a whole pitcher of Kool-aid)
 
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Didn't know Todd was left handed til his signing today....

Yeah I've seen him throw left-handed, could see a toss or sweep play going left where Gurley attempts a pass for a TD. SJ39 did that against the Saints back in 2007

shudders over those Linny days
 

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I'm sorry, but you just don't pay a RB that much money. If the Cowboys give Zeke that much (even if he is the best in the league) I will be freaking ticked.

He is not the best.

Depends on how much they use him. At this point the Cowboys don't have many other weapons on offense. They may just burn Elliott him out any way. One good thing about Gurley is he uses his speed to get to the sidelines. He avoids lots of hits that way. The Rams also have lots of other weapons so they can cut his touch back some and also take him out of the game early with big leads. I think the Cowboys have a lot of things to worry about with no Bryant and Witten around

https://247sports.com/nfl/dallas-co...y-contract-affects-Ezekiel-Elliott-120054822/
How Todd Gurley's contract impacts Ezekiel Elliott
ByMIKE FISHER 22 hours ago
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(Photo: USA Today Sports Images)

The running back market was supposed to be in decline, the Dallas Cowboys' decision three years ago to say goodbye to NFL rushing champ DeMarco Murray a hallmark of that trend.

But suddenly, the do-it-all runner getting paid for doing it all is back.

The Los Angeles Rams are giving elite runner Todd Gurley, 23, a four-year extension worth $60 million total, a $15 million per year total. The deal features $45 million guaranteed -- the largest number ever given a running back -- that aligns him with LA for the next six seasons, source tells ESPN.

The most-immediately-impacted colleague of Gurley's is, of course, Le'Veon Bell, who is in a contract dispute with the Steelers in seeking that sort of a deal.

"lol and ppl thought I was trippin','' Bell wrote on Twitter.

Less-immediate, as I wrote last week in relation to Bell's dispute, is the status of Ezekiel Elliott, who is just 22, an NFL rushing champ and on the short list of running backs (along with Arizona's David Johnson, also in a contract dispute) who conventional wisdom might argue merits this sort of money. Part of my argument was that the word "showdown'' is a poor description of the situation because it suggests something ominously around the corner.

Of course, that was a guaranteed $45 million ago!

Seriously, though: Gurley’s deal, it could be argued, removes some of the "might'' from the previous "wisdom.''

If you're Bell and Johnson now, and Ezekiel Elliott eventually, don't you have a new benchmark?

Can't you argue that "conventional wisdom'' has changed?

Wouldn't it be your position that the running back market in the exact opposite of "decline''?

Teams probably still need to pick their spots with running backs; the Cowboys' DeMarco decision was based on their study that insists that great runners with great workloads go off a cliff at about age 27. (And Dallas turned out to be right there; three years later, Murray is retired.)
But you can certainly understand why the star running back wonders why he has been recently treated like an afterthought when nobody seems to have a problem paying not only quarterbacks, but also corners, safeties, receivers, guards ... heck, everybody but running backs.

As it regards Zeke, if everyone plays by the (arguably unfair) rules, this never has to be an issue.Elliott's contract will still be under the club’s control for the next three seasons, as his rookie contract runs through 2019, and then in 2020 Dallas have pick up the fifth-year option on him.

Again, if both sides are happy "playing but the rules,'' Dallas can franchise-tag Elliott in 2021 and in total, get six full years out of him, without ever paying him the way Gurley just got paid ... and then it can bid farewell to Zeke, who after the 2021 season will turn 26.

At some point along the way, the Cowboys can certainly approach Elliott with an extension like Gurley's. (But, errrr, they won't.) At some point along the way, there can be an extension that doesn't pay Zeke like Gurley, but at least compensates him in a way that avoids a holdout. (Possible.) At some point along the way, owner Jerry Jones might remind Elliott that the boss had his back in 2017 when times were tough, and so, hey, Zeke, keep it cool here. (I guarantee you Jerry will play that card.)

But the Gurley contract isn't just eye-popping in a headline. It's eye-popping for every other starting running back in the NFL, eye-popping for every running back who might get tagged, and eye-popping for every running back who wants to get paid before he "falls off that cliff.''

And that list includes Ezekiel Elliott.
 

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Yeah I've seen him throw left-handed, could see a toss or sweep play going left where Gurley attempts a pass for a TD. SJ39 did that against the Saints back in 2007

shudders over those Linny days

He actually threw Georgia's longest pass of the 2014 season. The only pass of his career and it was a 50-yard bomb.
 

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Also, Gurley most likely won't even touch Dickersons record. Unless he averaged 7 ypc. Rams are always gunna have a good ratio of pass and rush yards with McVay.
Yeah - with this offense that seems untouchable.
 

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OK, sure. This comment from a guy whose team signed their kicker to a 7 year, $22,500,000 contract, including a $4,000,000 signing bonus, $6,600,000 guaranteed, and an average annual salary of $3,214,286.

You would use that against them when your team signed a punter to a 6 year $21.5M deal, with 10M in guaranteed and avg annual at 3.5m????

Would'nt it have been easier to just say something intelligent like "yeah well the Cowboys suck"?
 

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Hey Bubba! My Uncle has connections with the NFL. For over twenty years he was the NFL's Director of Manufacturing, in charge of printing all game day programs, etc. Anyway, he was able to get one of the plays McVay has been working on this summer. Thought I'd share it with yah!

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https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2018/07/25/inside-todd-gurleys-new-deal/

Inside Todd Gurley’s new deal

At a time when everyone was watching and waiting for Rams defensive tackle Aaron Donald to get a new contract, the team opted instead to extend running back Todd Gurley. The dust has now officially settled, PFT has obtained the full breakdown of the deal, and the numbers are every bit as impressive as the original reports suggesting.

Now, the $45 million in reported guarantees aren’t, as many realize by now, fully guaranteed at signing. But the devices used by Roc Nation make the money fully guaranteed, as a practical matter.

More on that in a moment. For now, the nuts and bolts of the contract.

1. Signing bonus: $21 million.

2. 2018 base salary: $950,000, fully guaranteed.

3. 2019 base salary: $5 million, guaranteed for injury at signing and fully guaranteed on the third day of the 2019 league year.

4. 2020 roster bonus due on third day of 2020 league year: $7.55 million, guaranteed for injury at signing and fully guaranteed on the third day of the 2019 league year.

5. 2020 salary: $5.5 million, guaranteed for injury at signing and fully guaranteed on the third day of the 2020 league year.

6. 2021 roster bonus due on the third day of 2021 league year or when the first game, whichever is earlier: $5 million, guaranteed for injury at signing and fully guaranteed on the third day of the 2020 league year.

7. 2021 salary: $4 million.

8. 2022 roster bonus, due on the third day of the 2022 league year: $1 million.

9. 2022 training camp reporting bonus: $4 million.

10. 2022 salary: $5 million.

11. 2023 roster bonus, due on the third day of the 2023 league year: $1 million.

12. 2023 training camp reporting bonus: $4 million.

13. 2023 salary: $5.449 million.

14. 2023 escalator: Up to $2.5 million based on individual and team performance.

And now for some more information and analysis on the deal.

First, much of the guaranteed money has no offset language. Specifically, the signing bonus, 2018 salary, 2019 salary, and $5 million of the 2020 roster bonus are not subject to dollar-for-dollar credit if the Rams release Gurley. That’s $31.95 million.

Second, $26.95 million is fully guaranteed at signing.

Third, as of the third day of the 2019 league year, $34.5 million of the deal will be fully guaranteed. Thus, to avoid owing him nearly $40 million, the Rams would have to cut Gurley after only one season. Which would give him $26.95 million for one year, none of which would be subject to offset.

Fourth, another $10.5 million becomes fully guaranteed on the third day of the 2020 league year. Which means that, to avoid paying him the full $45 million in guaranteed money, they’d have to cut him after two years — and he’d walk away with $34.5 million for two seasons of work.

Fifth, the 2021 roster bonus was negotiated with a potential work stoppage in mind. That’s why the trigger is the third day of the league year or the playing of the first game.

Sixth, technically, the four-year, $60 million extension has a base value of $57.5 million. This also means that the full six-year deal has a base value of $69.449 million. Which makes the new-money average of the base deal $14.375 million and the total average from signing $11.574 million.

Those numbers are still far and away above the current running back market, which has been depressed at the top end since Adrian Peterson and Chris Johnson signed their long-term deals in 2011.

As noted on Tuesday, Gurley was due to make only $2.3 million this year. By next year, Le'Veon Bell‘s new deal would have become the benchmark for Gurley. So the Rams made Gurley an offer he really couldn’t refuse, with a practical guarantee at signing of $34.5 million and a clear path to the full $45 million.

Plus, Gurley will be 29 when the deal expires, which will give him another shot at a market-level deal, if he stays healthy and effective.

Seventh, and finally, Gurley would have made $37.3 million over the next four years, if he’d gone year to year. Under the new deal, the cash flow is $21.95 million through one year, $26.95 million through two years, $39.5 million through three years, and $49.5 million through four years. That’s $12.2 million more through four years than he would have made under the final two years of his rookie deal and two years of the franchise tag.

So it was a very good deal for Gurley, one that he couldn’t have refused. And by offering it now, the Rams avoided having Bell’s new contract push the bar for Gurley even higher in 2019.
 

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You would use that against them when your team signed a punter to a 6 year $21.5M deal, with 10M in guaranteed and avg annual at 3.5m????

Would'nt it have been easier to just say something intelligent like "yeah well the Cowboys suck"?
Hmmmm. I see what you mean. But Hekker's career passer rating is 112.4!
 

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https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2018/07/25/inside-todd-gurleys-new-deal/

Inside Todd Gurley’s new deal

At a time when everyone was watching and waiting for Rams defensive tackle Aaron Donald to get a new contract, the team opted instead to extend running back Todd Gurley. The dust has now officially settled, PFT has obtained the full breakdown of the deal, and the numbers are every bit as impressive as the original reports suggesting.

Now, the $45 million in reported guarantees aren’t, as many realize by now, fully guaranteed at signing. But the devices used by Roc Nation make the money fully guaranteed, as a practical matter.

More on that in a moment. For now, the nuts and bolts of the contract.

1. Signing bonus: $21 million.

2. 2018 base salary: $950,000, fully guaranteed.

3. 2019 base salary: $5 million, guaranteed for injury at signing and fully guaranteed on the third day of the 2019 league year.

4. 2020 roster bonus due on third day of 2020 league year: $7.55 million, guaranteed for injury at signing and fully guaranteed on the third day of the 2019 league year.

5. 2020 salary: $5.5 million, guaranteed for injury at signing and fully guaranteed on the third day of the 2020 league year.

6. 2021 roster bonus due on the third day of 2021 league year or when the first game, whichever is earlier: $5 million, guaranteed for injury at signing and fully guaranteed on the third day of the 2020 league year.

7. 2021 salary: $4 million.

8. 2022 roster bonus, due on the third day of the 2022 league year: $1 million.

9. 2022 training camp reporting bonus: $4 million.

10. 2022 salary: $5 million.

11. 2023 roster bonus, due on the third day of the 2023 league year: $1 million.

12. 2023 training camp reporting bonus: $4 million.

13. 2023 salary: $5.449 million.

14. 2023 escalator: Up to $2.5 million based on individual and team performance.

And now for some more information and analysis on the deal.

First, much of the guaranteed money has no offset language. Specifically, the signing bonus, 2018 salary, 2019 salary, and $5 million of the 2020 roster bonus are not subject to dollar-for-dollar credit if the Rams release Gurley. That’s $31.95 million.

Second, $26.95 million is fully guaranteed at signing.

Third, as of the third day of the 2019 league year, $34.5 million of the deal will be fully guaranteed. Thus, to avoid owing him nearly $40 million, the Rams would have to cut Gurley after only one season. Which would give him $26.95 million for one year, none of which would be subject to offset.

Fourth, another $10.5 million becomes fully guaranteed on the third day of the 2020 league year. Which means that, to avoid paying him the full $45 million in guaranteed money, they’d have to cut him after two years — and he’d walk away with $34.5 million for two seasons of work.

Fifth, the 2021 roster bonus was negotiated with a potential work stoppage in mind. That’s why the trigger is the third day of the league year or the playing of the first game.

Sixth, technically, the four-year, $60 million extension has a base value of $57.5 million. This also means that the full six-year deal has a base value of $69.449 million. Which makes the new-money average of the base deal $14.375 million and the total average from signing $11.574 million.

Those numbers are still far and away above the current running back market, which has been depressed at the top end since Adrian Peterson and Chris Johnson signed their long-term deals in 2011.

As noted on Tuesday, Gurley was due to make only $2.3 million this year. By next year, Le'Veon Bell‘s new deal would have become the benchmark for Gurley. So the Rams made Gurley an offer he really couldn’t refuse, with a practical guarantee at signing of $34.5 million and a clear path to the full $45 million.

Plus, Gurley will be 29 when the deal expires, which will give him another shot at a market-level deal, if he stays healthy and effective.

Seventh, and finally, Gurley would have made $37.3 million over the next four years, if he’d gone year to year. Under the new deal, the cash flow is $21.95 million through one year, $26.95 million through two years, $39.5 million through three years, and $49.5 million through four years. That’s $12.2 million more through four years than he would have made under the final two years of his rookie deal and two years of the franchise tag.

So it was a very good deal for Gurley, one that he couldn’t have refused. And by offering it now, the Rams avoided having Bell’s new contract push the bar for Gurley even higher in 2019.

should have gotten an accounting degree. That is a lot to digest.
 

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Looks like a good deal for both team and player as we hoped for.