Evans: not a change in thought, but more reality

[nighttrain]

You might be able to sell AW #77 on one more season with the reason being the Joseph Noteboom situation. AW might be offered the ideal of expecting to play for the first half of the season. That the Ram Org. would have LT prospects in place for Training Camp & Preseason working as AW's back up going into the initial part of the 2020 season. Noteboom would not figure anywhere in this early picture until after the bye.

AW might be open for this to help the Ram's Org & help Joseph Noteboom (who he has been working with closely last season & early this season). From what I have read & seen they are close. Otherwise, the Rams will be forced to go into the draft leaning heavy on finding a lT with very early starting skills & abilities which might prevent Noteboom from ever securing a Ram LT post following AW's departure.

It will difficult to find the salary cap funds $$$ to get AW to reconsider giving up another year of his life on his well-worn near 40 yr old body.

for one more season, good for the Rams

 

[Riverumbbq]

You might be able to sell AW #77 on one more season with the reason being the Joseph Noteboom situation. AW might be offered the ideal of expecting to play for the first half of the season. That the Ram Org. would have LT prospects in place for Training Camp & Preseason working as AW's back up going into the initial part of the 2020 season. Noteboom would not figure anywhere in this early picture until after the bye.

AW might be open for this to help the Ram's Org & help Joseph Noteboom (who he has been working with closely last season & early this season). From what I have read & seen they are close. Otherwise, the Rams will be forced to go into the draft leaning heavy on finding a lT with very early starting skills & abilities which might prevent Noteboom from ever securing a Ram LT post following AW's departure.

It will difficult to find the salary cap funds $$$ to get AW to reconsider giving up another year of his life on his well-worn near 40 yr old body.

Sounded like there was an echo in here until that last sentence.

Protecting Goff must be our #1 goal, and it really won't be all that difficult to re-sign Whitworth once we have our priorities straight. His 2020 CAP cost could easily be one-half or less than what it is this season as his last contract moved most of his salary to his 3'rd year. jmo.

 

[PhillyRam]

I just rewatched every offensive play from the Seattle game.
On drop back passes Evans was given help (by a TE) a total of two times. He was not given help on drop back passes for the vast majority.
Moving pockets are a little different as they are more directionally blocking. A TE is almost always kept in on the side the line is moving from (right to left in this case) to seal the end not to give help to the T per say.
On some of his pass blocking he did just enough. He was beaten a few times, but, the rest of the pocket was clean and the ball was out quickly. There were a few times he was excellent.
In the running game he did some good work but was also beaten badly a couple of times. He is susceptible to a quick inside move. He could work at maintaining his blocks a little longer.
On the run plays where the DE goes unblocked that is obviously the play design.
The OL directionally blocks and that guy is left alone.
Clowney ran down the one play but also got caught up in traffic on a couple of other times when the Rams ran the same scheme for positive yards.
My take away (not that anyone was asking)?
A little less fired up about his play.
He was not as great in the run game as I remembered from just watching the game. He had a few plays he got blown up, but, he did do a lot of solid work there too.
As for pass blocking Evans is not being given much help.
The game plan changes....misdirection, rolling out and moving the pocket are being done to help protect the entire line.
When it is drop back passing he is rarely getting help.
He has quicker feet than Havenstein and at times shows really good technique. He struggles with inside moves and once or twice a DE ran around him but Goff was saved by getting the ball out.
Pretty similar to Havenstein in the regard.
Because he has quicker feet he can at times recover a little better than Hav.
I would stick with Evans at this point and see how he progresses.

Agree... I re-watched and saw Evans on his own a lot.... That is all.

 

[So Ram]

It’s not about having TEs on the field it is whether they help block or not.
The only advantage is a DE lining up a bit wider....which may help or may not.
In the Seattle game Evans was helped twice with a TE blocking on a drop back (5 or 7 step).
He’s not getting much help.

exactly !! That is why I blew up on Steve Brown. I guess he was talking about the 7 step ?? Still Evans has been solid from my eyes.

 

[So Ram]

I just rewatched every offensive play from the Seattle game.
On drop back passes Evans was given help (by a TE) a total of two times. He was not given help on drop back passes for the vast majority.
Moving pockets are a little different as they are more directionally blocking. A TE is almost always kept in on the side the line is moving from (right to left in this case) to seal the end not to give help to the T per say.
On some of his pass blocking he did just enough. He was beaten a few times, but, the rest of the pocket was clean and the ball was out quickly. There were a few times he was excellent.
In the running game he did some good work but was also beaten badly a couple of times. He is susceptible to a quick inside move. He could work at maintaining his blocks a little longer.
On the run plays where the DE goes unblocked that is obviously the play design.
The OL directionally blocks and that guy is left alone.
Clowney ran down the one play but also got caught up in traffic on a couple of other times when the Rams ran the same scheme for positive yards.
My take away (not that anyone was asking)?
A little less fired up about his play.
He was not as great in the run game as I remembered from just watching the game. He had a few plays he got blown up, but, he did do a lot of solid work there too.
As for pass blocking Evans is not being given much help.
The game plan changes....misdirection, rolling out and moving the pocket are being done to help protect the entire line.
When it is drop back passing he is rarely getting help.
He has quicker feet than Havenstein and at times shows really good technique. He struggles with inside moves and once or twice a DE ran around him but Goff was saved by getting the ball out.
Pretty similar to Havenstein in the regard.
Because he has quicker feet he can at times recover a little better than Hav.
I would stick with Evans at this point and see how he progresses.

I have to add more upside with Evans moving forward!! He’s ascending .

 

[oldnotdead]

Evan, Edwards and Corbett all look like the future starters this team has been needing. When they get Allen back next year with Noteboom at LT this will be a very good o-line. Young with a solid future in front of them. They look good now and will be better next year.

It's time to move on from Whitworth that time has come. He was never signed as a long term player. He's been a great bridge LT but when Noteboom is healthy it's his time to play.

 

[So Ram]

Mcvay & Kromer are going to make the ultimate decision. Will see how this plays out !! The awesome thing about it if Big Rob starts is the depth is there with Bobby Evans getting better in time.I personally always liked how he played on the Left side & the way he pulls. He actually reminded me of Guy Mcitnire from SF years ago. A bigger Version, but that is from a scouting point from a college player thinking about his future as an Offensive lineman.I was not sold on him as a LT,and he seems like a system type guy.
As loyalram post about him maintaining blocks, I agree. I do think he still is a system guy who knows his assistantment and just try’s to do the task ahead. He does not do a lot of extras. He does help on double teams well though .
I’m not sure of what Bobby Evans or Big Rob’s future is, but both are capable NFL lineman.
The fun is The Rams are in playoff mode & have a chance of winning out.

 

[fearsomefour]

Evan, Edwards and Corbett all look like the future starters this team has been needing. When they get Allen back next year with Noteboom at LT this will be a very good o-line. Young with a solid future in front of them. They look good now and will be better next year.

It's time to move on from Whitworth that time has come. He was never signed as a long term player. He's been a great bridge LT but when Noteboom is healthy it's his time to play.

Seriously doubt Noteboom will be ready for the start of the season. Even if healthy no way to know of he can hang at LT.
Have to have a contingency plan at LT and C.

 

[PhillyRam]

You might be able to sell AW #77 on one more season with the reason being the Joseph Noteboom situation. AW might be offered the ideal of expecting to play for the first half of the season. That the Ram Org. would have LT prospects in place for Training Camp & Preseason working as AW's back up going into the initial part of the 2020 season. Noteboom would not figure anywhere in this early picture until after the bye.

AW might be open for this to help the Ram's Org & help Joseph Noteboom (who he has been working with closely last season & early this season). From what I have read & seen they are close. Otherwise, the Rams will be forced to go into the draft leaning heavy on finding a lT with very early starting skills & abilities which might prevent Noteboom from ever securing a Ram LT post following AW's departure.

It will difficult to find the salary cap funds $$$ to get AW to reconsider giving up another year of his life on his well-worn near 40 yr old body.

Offer him a Weddle like deal. I think that would work. He might want to join the organization in some capacity after that.

 

[So Ram]

Evan, Edwards and Corbett all look like the future starters this team has been needing. When they get Allen back next year with Noteboom at LT this will be a very good o-line. Young with a solid future in front of them. They look good now and will be better next year.

It's time to move on from Whitworth that time has come. He was never signed as a long term player. He's been a great bridge LT but when Noteboom is healthy it's his time to play.

one more year just gives The Rams more depth. Noteboom is still such a big question mark with his injury.

 

[So Ram]

Seriously doubt Noteboom will be ready for the start of the season. Even if healthy no way to know of he can hang at LT.
Have to have a contingency plan at LT and C.

yeah - I’m not a Blythe fan as a guard,but he has proved to be an excellent Swing G/C.
Allen might need more time & experience. The fact both Noteboom & Allen lost out on some reps hurt there progression.
I think right now the O”Line has depth if things stay the same & let there be competition for the best player and position.

 

[So Ram]

AlRight - just went to The Rams depth chart all over the internet!!

Rob Havenstein is listed ahead of Booby Evans with all the other starters.

Is this wishful thinking ??

still on the side of Bobby Evans !!

 

[fearsomefour]

yeah - I’m not a Blythe fan as a guard,but he has proved to be an excellent Swing G/C.
Allen might need more time & experience. The fact both Noteboom & Allen lost out on some reps hurt there progression.
I think right now the O”Line has depth if things stay the same & let there be competition for the best player and position.

I would resign Blythe as he should be cheap.
Let him, Allen, Corbett, Shelton compete for the starting C job.
If Blythe wins it he wins it. If not he can provide depth to all three interior line positions.

 

[TexasRam]

I've watched all of Evans Snaps the last few games.

He has a whole lot of push and uses his legs and balance real well.

Better potential then Havenstein in pass pro.

Evans weakness is he can't lock onto his man for long. Reminds me a lot of Saffold.

I think Evans can be a Pro Bowler inside at guard. Not sure his long term at tackle.

 

[So Ram]

I've watched all of Evans Snaps the last few games.

He has a whole lot of push and uses his legs and balance real well.

Better potential then Havenstein in pass pro.

Evans weakness is he can't lock onto his man for long. Reminds me a lot of Saffold.

I think Evans can be a Pro Bowler inside at guard. Not sure his long term at tackle.

look at Edwards & his holding penalties. No one is talking about the 4 he had against Zona!! Then another against Seahags.

I keep asking about the sacks & penalties on Evans. Crickets ??

 

[LARAMSinFeb.]

Everybody just gonna ignore Evans’ spin move on that one pass pro play Sun.?

Dude plays with a lot of swagger and seems to enjoy shoving people around....

 

[OldSchool]

AlRight - just went to The Rams depth chart all over the internet!!

Rob Havenstein is listed ahead of Booby Evans with all the other starters.

Is this wishful thinking ??

still on the side of Bobby Evans !!

Not really a mystery. McVay hasn't said that when Rob is healthy he's not starting. Until he says that Rob's the starter.

 

[SteveBrown]

well how many penalties & sacks has Evans given up ?? Your the stating he needs help & can’t contain an outside rush???

not "cant"....yes he can, but not 15-20 times a game with no help on a 7 step drop when Goff isn't rolling.

Goff had a 7 step drop 4-5 against Settle ---without a TE/RB helping Evans at all.
Evans was supported by McVay in every way, like most any rookie should have been

 

[SteveBrown]

Everybody just gonna ignore Evans’ spin move on that one pass pro play Sun.?

Dude plays with a lot of swagger and seems to enjoy shoving people around....

that was great....jaw on the ground a bit...yep, he has it.....next year he will be a stud guard...and maybe a RT

 

[So Ram]

Not really a mystery. McVay hasn't said that when Rob is healthy he's not starting. Until he says that Rob's the starter.

will see, I don’t think Bobby Evans should sit. IfnThe Rams loss because of it I’ll be pissed !! I wouldn’t be posting so much about it if I didn’t.
I also think Bobby Evans is a better offensive lineman than Edwards!! He was also drafted before him making me think the scouts agree as well.

4 offensive holdings in a game. Mystery is how well will Havenstein play & how will he do next to Edwards ?? Was Blythe that bad at RG ?? I like Blythe at center from his first start( subbing in for) for Sullivan.

So your saying it’s no mystery on what Kromer thinks to Ram fans ?? Big Rob is healthy so there for Hav is the starter ??

If Evans starts , no mystery solved ???
I don’t even know what thread this is ??

Evans starts or should Hav !! There is 2 threads that are basically the same ??