Deshaun Watson wants to be traded. Bears?

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It would be such a dream if we could land Watson!!! Im hoping, just not sure its possible
 

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I don't see Belichek sending a first rounder for an above average 36 year old QB.
Oh I do. With Brady in the Super Bowl he’s not going to rest until he gets back to one. Ryan still has 2-3 years left in him, BB can try to win one without the DB12
 

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Where the Rams have an advantage over many other orgs is their ability to focus in on the traits they want at different positions in the draft. They don't have the picks or the cap space to play in this scenario because they chose their guys already and paid them. So even with all this Goff bullshit going on the fact hasn't changed that they're going to need to draft better than everyone else once again to stay where they are. And that's really hard to sustain. Especially when you need a QB on top of all that.

I expect they'll sniff these options and pull out when they find the bouquet to be more than they can handle. And they'll settle on some option that few here are gonna like. The ones people already hate like Minshew, maybe Darnold if other teams like SF and NO don't swoop in and drive the price up, etc.

2021 will be a ground control offense with a rebuilt OL that takes shots deep. Expecting more than that is not realistic IMO. Schematically McVay is a trend setter so as I have mentioned before I see him introducing heavy RPO elements and called QB runs and his QB corps will be a lineup of RPO types who are agressive and hyper competitive.

It was no mistake he tried to hire Kingsbury. That wasn't just a friend thing. I think McVay has been thinking about this for a while now. Look at our roster at the QB position now. You have 3x guys who can RPO and fit what I'm talking about. This is where it's going so buckle up. :beer2: :biggrin:
 

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I haven't seen a single article anywhere outside of Ramville that suggest the Rams are a potential trade partner. Watson stated yesterday that the Dolphions are not number 1 on his list, but that he does like the Jets coach.

Personally I dislike trading so much for a single person...even QB. Watson could go down again and then what?
 

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And by the way here's a prediction... By this time next year the talk will be about McVay introducing a new model with QBs that counters the massive pay structure.

In other words NCAA transitioned to spread offenses in answer to the NFL poaching QBs. It was recognition that most programs could not afford to invest in these QBs only to see them snapped up. And now the NFL is going to go through the same BS. Right now the QB position is so difficult due to the versatility and specializing you see with defenses that they have to pay these guys stupid money from the supply & demand side.

But by this time next year teams will be talking about a "new model" which is basically as I have mentioned before what some guys like Greg Roman have been doing for years. The difference is it is now a model because McVay does it. And the media will pick up on the long term benefits it has to the cap as well when you don't have to pay a fucking QB a bajillion dollars.
 

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I haven't seen a single article anywhere outside of Ramville that suggest the Rams are a potential trade partner. Watson stated yesterday that the Dolphions are not number 1 on his list, but that he does like the Jets coach.

Personally I dislike trading so much for a single person...even QB. Watson could go down again and then what?
Because it's completely out of the realm that the Rams could acquire him in a trade. He will give a list of teams he'd accept a trade to and somebody will pony up big time to get him. It wont be the Rams unless they included Aaron Donald in the deal....
 

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And by the way here's a prediction... By this time next year the talk will be about McVay introducing a new model with QBs that counters the massive pay structure.

In other words NCAA transitioned to spread offenses in answer to the NFL poaching QBs. It was recognition that most programs could not afford to invest in these QBs only to see them snapped up. And now the NFL is going to go through the same BS. Right now the QB position is so difficult due to the versatility and specializing you see with defenses that they have to pay these guys stupid money from the supply & demand side.

But by this time next year teams will be talking about a "new model" which is basically as I have mentioned before what some guys like Greg Roman have been doing for years. The difference is it is now a model because McVay does it. And the media will pick up on the long term benefits it has to the cap as well when you don't have to pay a fucking QB a bajillion dollars.

Interesting.

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Doesn't mean it will happen but the scenario does fit and is awfully familiar. Especially since the agent has already had one successful transaction in Jalen to LA. Then as a fan you add that little post that Jalen made on Instagram and then jourdan zoom interview where she says Jalen is good at tipping you off without giving anything up until some time later when your like oh so that's what he meant.... Now i understand. It's just a theory but it is hopeful and does kind of get the wheels turning. Not to mention how brash Mcvay and Snead have been. So I'm not saying it will happen but those pieces all do fit very well. Just a theory that's all don't crush me lolol.

 
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I heard the other day he wants the Jets.

That he likse Salah

I was watching a YT vid about this and the reporter was saying that they had major doubts about the authenticity of the report as the guy has no access to anyone involved and has never broken a story before. I initially ran with the story, but after more looking, all the Jets speculation seems to stem from that one report which seems to be made up.
 

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I haven't seen a single article anywhere outside of Ramville that suggest the Rams are a potential trade partner. Watson stated yesterday that the Dolphions are not number 1 on his list, but that he does like the Jets coach.

Personally I dislike trading so much for a single person...even QB. Watson could go down again and then what?

Did Watson state this or was this in reference to a post that Watson wants to go to the Jets b/c he supposedly likes Saleh?

There are issues with that report is all I’m saying.
 

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There is zero chance the Jets trade for Watson. Think I've said that before but if not now it's recorded for posterity so I can look like a jackass. :LOL:

But seriously. You're positioned to take a QB who is the total package there at 2. It's really hard to fuck that up and then you get that cheap control for the first contract. So Watson can have a man crush all he wants on Saleh but it's not going to matter.

I think he'll end up in Carolina. Rhule and that org are looking to make a splash and Watson is a nice fit. But Watson may not be smart enough to realize how important his offensive leader is. I mean focusing on the GM and front office structure and all that to me is secondary for a signal caller to who is gameplanning and prioritizing the offensive pieces.
 

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And by the way here's a prediction... By this time next year the talk will be about McVay introducing a new model with QBs that counters the massive pay structure.

In other words NCAA transitioned to spread offenses in answer to the NFL poaching QBs. It was recognition that most programs could not afford to invest in these QBs only to see them snapped up. And now the NFL is going to go through the same BS. Right now the QB position is so difficult due to the versatility and specializing you see with defenses that they have to pay these guys stupid money from the supply & demand side.

But by this time next year teams will be talking about a "new model" which is basically as I have mentioned before what some guys like Greg Roman have been doing for years. The difference is it is now a model because McVay does it. And the media will pick up on the long term benefits it has to the cap as well when you don't have to pay a fucking QB a bajillion dollars.
I would definitely be for this if you have an offensive guru who you believe in his system and develop QBs. Treat it almost like a RB -- drafting a new one each year using non-1st round pick to do so. Occasionally a 2nd (Akers), one year a 3rd (Hendo), one year a 7th / UDFA, etc. Develop them each year and best one plays. Occasionally you hit on a couple and trade one to recoup extra picks. But no huge, LT extensions. Hope to get a good one on a good extension before he truly goes off; but if not then trade him in that last year for extra picks and move onto next guy. Trusting your development and system. Thus, enabling you to have $$$ spent on a top OL; as well as defense, WRs, etc.
 

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Man sports talk radio has been epic today lol...made the day just fly by.
 
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I would definitely be for this if you have an offensive guru who you believe in his system and develop QBs. Treat it almost like a RB -- drafting a new one each year using non-1st round pick to do so. Occasionally a 2nd (Akers), one year a 3rd (Hendo), one year a 7th / UDFA, etc. Develop them each year and best one plays. Occasionally you hit on a couple and trade one to recoup extra picks. But no huge, LT extensions. Hope to get a good one on a good extension before he truly goes off; but if not then trade him in that last year for extra picks and move onto next guy. Trusting your development and system. Thus, enabling you to have $$$ spent on a top OL; as well as defense, WRs, etc.
Pretty much. There have been coaches doing that, like Roman. But I don't think anyone has connected the dots on a structured approach that way from the org level. It's coming IMO. It has to be. These QB salaries are fucking stupid.
 

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Doesn't mean it will happen but the scenario does fit and is awfully familiar. Especially since the agent has already had one successful transaction in Jalen to LA. Then as a fan you add that little post that Jalen made on Instagram and then jourdan zoom interview where she says Jalen is good at tipping you off without giving anything up until some time later when your like oh so that's what he meant.... Now i understand. It's just a theory but it is hopeful and does kind of get the wheels turning. Not to mention how brash Mcvay and Snead have been. So I'm not saying it will happen but those pieces all do fit very well. Just a theory that's all don't crush me lolol.



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Make it happen Snead, even if you have to trade @Ewe83 to be a Houston fan idc! Get it done!
 

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Know your source.Just that fact it’s Fox Sport & Doug Goutlie is enough to say it won’t happen.I guess I’ve been surprised by less believable things.

What could The Rams get for Goff & what it would take to get Watson.

Will see? Bring back the Tony Banks & James Harris days,but a teal gunslinger.

My guess after watching Mcvay get a taste of Wolford it had him wondering what IF! Sean Mcvay as much as that A-hole thread is is really a well thought out HC.He does things for a reason even more so than Jalen RAMsey.Think of it as coach speak with Ram Players.
 

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I’m on my phone, but I’ll try.

Rams may have known about this trade request as it happened which was WEEKS AGO. This did not come today.

Ramsey and Watson share an agent.

Also, the timeline with McVay starting to no longer talk up Goff aligns almost exactly with the actual date of the trade request.

So maybe that source of Stephen A Smith’s is legit and the Rams were ALREADY putting together a package even as they were in the playoffs.

I dunno if I’m seeing an obvious pattern here or if I’m going all Nash (A Beautiful Mind) here.

But I’ll presume for now that I’m seeing accurately. If I am, the Rams are already targeting Watson heavily and I think all this “Watson wants to go to NY” is garbage from the Texans because why would Watson want to go from one dumpster fire of an owner to another? Same with Miami...

I just think too many things are lining up for the Rams to be wallflowers in all this.