Cooks' visit with specialist went well, Rams to be cautious

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Henderson doesn't have particularly good hands


Sorry guys oldguy brain block. I meant to say Reynolds doesn't have consistent hands and is prone to drops. This is why Everett is the best choice to fill in. Kupp can move to Z and Everett into the Y since all TE's run the Y tree he already knows it.
 

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right?!

Yeah every players body is vastly different. I know we dont know much head brain trauma but maybe it doesn't effect every player the same or have the same long term effects.
Like in boxing some dudes are next to impossible to knock out, and others are glass cannons, just depends on the person.

I wonder if they have a different helmet he could try out? Sometimes people get knocked out because of neck and jaw trauma rather than it being head related. They can often have the same symptoms as a concussion. Like being put to sleep in a choke hold, once you wake up you're not the same for about 4 to 6 hours.

Just food for thought.

But isn't it still head related? Like in your choke hold example. Isn't that caused from lack of oxygen to the brain?
 

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Sorry guys oldguy brain block. I meant to say Reynolds doesn't have consistent hands and is prone to drops. This is why Everett is the best choice to fill in. Kupp can move to Z and Everett into the Y since all TE's run the Y tree he already knows it.

Kupp is the slot WR. That's not going to change. My bet is that Cooks' role is divvied up between Everett and Reynolds until he returns.
 

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You were kind of all over the place and I follow. But for the sake of a number if we'd traded him today what cap hit, don't give a shit about base pay unless it's guaranteed that we'd have to account for. And if we do it say before the draft next year what's the dead cap hit then too.

Looking at it the remainder of his signing bonus that hasn't been accounted for at $4.2 million (three years at $1.4 million)
The remainder of his option bonus of $13.6 million (four years at $3.4 million)

So that looks like $17.8 million if we traded him today or before 3/15 next year?

His 2020 roster bonus guarantees on 3/15 and his salary guarantees on 3/20
 

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It would definitely suck to lose Cooks. But he hasn’t been a very big part of the offense this year. In fact, Reynolds seems to offer a little more at this point since Woods can do everything Cooks can.

Also, I know he’s supposed to be our downfield threat, but he hasn’t exactly taken the top off the defense thus far in his short Rams career. His longest plays have been 57, 57, 48, 47, 44. Not great for a 4.3 guy.

Before the bye week last year(Hasn’t had a reception over 40 yards since then), he was on pace for 1500 yards receiving. Man, we really blew our load on that KC game.
 

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It would definitely suck to lose Cooks. But he hasn’t been a very big part of the offense this year. In fact, Reynolds seems to offer a little more at this point since Woods can do everything Cooks can.

Also, I know he’s supposed to be our downfield threat, but he hasn’t exactly taken the top off the defense thus far in his short Rams career. His longest plays have been 57, 57, 48, 47, 44. Not great for a 4.3 guy.

Before the bye week last year(Hasn’t had a reception over 40 yards since then), he was on pace for 1500 yards receiving. Man, we really blew our load on that KC game.

Woods is Sneaky fast. When he turns it on, he FLYS!!!!
 

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Rams Should Strongly Consider Shutting Down Brandin Cooks for the Season
By Scott Rogust | Oct 29 2019

LOS ANGELES, CA - OCTOBER 13: Brandin Cooks #12 of the Los Angeles Rams runs the ball against the San Francisco 49ers at Los Angeles Memorial Coliseum on October 13, 2019 in Los Angeles, California. San Francisco won 20-7. (Photo by John McCoy/Getty Images)

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Los Angeles Rams wide receiver Brandin Cooks has been plagued by injuries since the end of the 2017 season-- and those ailments are serious, as he's been diagnosed with four since that time, two of them coming in the last month alone. That's a big problem, and could lead to serious negative effects to his long-term health if not dealt with properly.
With his latest injury happening this past Sunday in London against the Cincinnati Bengals, Rams head coach Sean McVay revealed the team is sending their star receiver to Pittsburgh to visit a specialist. While he says Cooks is "feeling good" and "quickly asymptomatic," the team needs to know for certain what's really going on considering how frequent these injuries have occurred.
Sean McVay, on a conference call with reporters, says that Brandin Cooks is on his way to see a specialist. Cooks was placed into concussion protocol for the second time in a month, but McVay says he's quickly asymptomatic. They want to find out what's going on with him.
— Lindsey Thiry (@LindseyThiry) October 29, 2019
The specialist's recommendation will rightly carry weight, but the Rams should still consider shutting down Cooks for the remainder of the season all the same.
Suffering four concussions in less than two years, including two this season alone, is extremely alarming. It's very much in doubt that a doctor would clear him to take an NFL field at this level of risk.
If you need another example, look at Washington Redskins tight end Jordan Reed. Dating back to his time at college, Reed was diagnosed with seven concussions in a 10-year span. His latest occurred in the preseason, and has shown trouble in fully recovering, leaving his career in jeopardy.
Rams WR Brandin Cooks, who has suffered four concussions since Super Bowl LII and two this month, heads to Pittsburgh to see a specialist https://t.co/R0jJMCHlkC
— ProFootballTalk (@ProFootballTalk) October 29, 2019
If you want to look at it from a financial standpoint, the Rams signed Cooks to a five-year, $81 million ($50.5 million guaranteed) back in 2018. Like in any business, a team wants to secure their investment.
Regardless of money, this is Brandin Cooks' well-being that's on the line. Given our expanded knowledge of the effects of concussions and CTE on the brain over time, the Rams should take his health into account and not be afraid to shut him down for the rest of the year.
 

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As much as I loves me some Cooks, I would hate to see him have his life destroyed by another bad hit. I would much rather see him retire than regret playing longer.
 

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If the NFL is serious about player safety as is advertised, there should be a protocol for placing players in this situation on IR or PUP, and having their cap hit reversed.

This way, lost value of an asset doesn’t enter the formula when assessing a player’s health.

If necessary for cheaters (listening Cheatriots?), they could have it subject to league approval to recover cap space so only obvious cases apply.
 

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What I want to know is, why is it that a nuance of “clearly the defender didn’t INTEND to hit his helmet. He only got him with the side of his helmet” - become the narrative with the announcers, when every time Ram defenders get helmet- helmet it is an obvious foul, 15 yards and intent isn’t even a thing.

officiating commentator said intent doesn't matter... which of course it doesn't.

Was a missed call.
 

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If the NFL is serious about player safety as is advertised, there should be a protocol for placing players in this situation on IR or PUP, and having their cap hit reversed.

This way, lost value of an asset doesn’t enter the formula when assessing a player’s health.

If necessary for cheaters (listening Cheatriots?), they could have it subject to league approval to recover cap space so only obvious cases apply.
Excellent point. But doesn't placing him on IR cancel his hit against the cap anyway?
 

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Rams Should Strongly Consider Shutting Down Brandin Cooks for the Season
By Scott Rogust | Oct 29 2019

LOS ANGELES, CA - OCTOBER 13: Brandin Cooks #12 of the Los Angeles Rams runs the ball against the San Francisco 49ers at Los Angeles Memorial Coliseum on October 13, 2019 in Los Angeles, California. San Francisco won 20-7. (Photo by John McCoy/Getty Images)

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Los Angeles Rams wide receiver Brandin Cooks has been plagued by injuries since the end of the 2017 season-- and those ailments are serious, as he's been diagnosed with four since that time, two of them coming in the last month alone. That's a big problem, and could lead to serious negative effects to his long-term health if not dealt with properly.
With his latest injury happening this past Sunday in London against the Cincinnati Bengals, Rams head coach Sean McVay revealed the team is sending their star receiver to Pittsburgh to visit a specialist. While he says Cooks is "feeling good" and "quickly asymptomatic," the team needs to know for certain what's really going on considering how frequent these injuries have occurred.

The specialist's recommendation will rightly carry weight, but the Rams should still consider shutting down Cooks for the remainder of the season all the same.
Suffering four concussions in less than two years, including two this season alone, is extremely alarming. It's very much in doubt that a doctor would clear him to take an NFL field at this level of risk.
If you need another example, look at Washington Redskins tight end Jordan Reed. Dating back to his time at college, Reed was diagnosed with seven concussions in a 10-year span. His latest occurred in the preseason, and has shown trouble in fully recovering, leaving his career in jeopardy.

If you want to look at it from a financial standpoint, the Rams signed Cooks to a five-year, $81 million ($50.5 million guaranteed) back in 2018. Like in any business, a team wants to secure their investment.
Regardless of money, this is Brandin Cooks' well-being that's on the line. Given our expanded knowledge of the effects of concussions and CTE on the brain over time, the Rams should take his health into account and not be afraid to shut him down for the rest of the year.

I'd like to see what a specialist has to say. At this point it's all conjecture and no one but the doctor can actually see what's going on with him.
 

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Anyone suggesting we should sit him even if a specialist clears him is ridiculous. As long as we are not intentionally trying to knowingly play someone who is hurt we should stay out of it. That type of decision should be left up to people most knowledgeable of the situation, which would be the doctors who clear him and himself.
 

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Anyone suggesting we should sit him even if a specialist clears him is ridiculous. As long as we are not intentionally trying to knowingly play someone who is hurt we should stay out of it. That type of decision should be left up to people most knowledgeable of the situation, which would be the doctors who clear him and himself.
Pretty sure the specialist is a doctor, maybe a neurologist.