Coaching Options

[thirteen28]

Gregg Williams and Asshole Face hate each other. They'd never work together again.

That was my impression.

 

[fancents86]

I'd love to have the other Harbaugh, John, coaching this team.

 

[Florida_Ram]

I do not want:

Let's start fresh. My list would be (in no order):
1. Jim Harbaugh
2. Matt Patricia
3. Todd Haley
4. Jim Bob Cooter (best HC name ever)
5. Greg Roman (if the Bills offense gets back to playing like it did last year)
6. Tom Herman
7. Mark Dantonio

I like your start fresh list and hopefully the QB coach selected by the new HC will have a history of experience with developing young quarterbacks from various college offensive schemes at the NFL level.

 

[den-the-coach]

Let's start fresh. My list would be (in no order):
1. Jim Harbaugh
2. Matt Patricia
3. Todd Haley
4. Jim Bob Cooter (best HC name ever)
5. Greg Roman (if the Bills offense gets back to playing like it did last year)
6. Tom Herman
7. Mark Dantonio



Gregg Williams and Asshole Face hate each other. They'd never work together again.

Matt Patricia, very bright, however, needs a shave....Todd Haley would be intriguing and again with hope he learned humility under Tomlin. Tom Herman a great name, IMO, he's a college guy all the way, but I would kick the tires and IMHO Mark Dantonio health is not up for it.

No to Greg Roman and Jim Bob Cooter has done wonders with that offense and Peyton Manning loved him, however, in Los Angeles he would have to change his name to James Robert Coter.

 

[jrry32]

Matt Patricia, very bright, however, needs a shave....Todd Haley would be intriguing and again with hope he learned humility under Tomlin. Tom Herman a great name, IMO, he's a college guy all the way, but I would kick the tires and IMHO Mark Dantonio health is not up for it.

No to Greg Roman and Jim Bob Cooter has done wonders with that offense and Peyton Manning loved him, however, in Los Angeles he would have to change his name to James Robert Coter.

Yea, Dantonio would likely turn it down. He's older. But he's the best player developer and Xs and Os coach in college football. He runs pro style schemes and wins with kids who are turned away from programs like Ohio State and Michigan. I don't know how he would mesh with NFL egos, but he's among the very best there is in terms of pure coaching.

I expect Herman would turn it down too. Patricia and Cooter both seem like strong options.

 

[den-the-coach]

Yea, Dantonio would likely turn it down. He's older. But he's the best player developer and Xs and Os coach in college football. He runs pro style schemes and wins with kids who are turned away from programs like Ohio State and Michigan. I don't know how he would mesh with NFL egos, but he's among the very best there is in terms of pure coaching.

I expect Herman would turn it down too. Patricia and Cooter both seem like strong options.

I like both Patricia & Cooter and again if the Rams make a change I believe the Coach will have an offensive background, but I love Matt Patricia because he's from my area graduating from one of the finest engineering schools in the country in RPI (Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute) with a degree in aeronautical engineering, really bright guy.

 

[12intheBox]

I know he is and should be a viable option since he is a strong football mind, but I still just can't believe Jim Bob Cooter is a real name.

 

[HitStick]

In the NFL today, you have to look at how coaches around the league are building offenses. Carolina, Denver, Pats, Cards, Seattle...

All have recently been at the top of the league, and every single one of them has a solid defense (like us), and every single one of them allows their offense to play offense. If you're down by 14 and it's 3rd and 10, do you really think any of the teams listed above are going to have their top receivers running 3 yard hitches? Defenses close way to fast for a horizontal passing game. If you want Tavon running hit hes, screens, and drags, that's fine, but Britt and Quick better be 15 yards deep if you want Tavon to get anywhere. When the routes are 3-5 yards deep, everyone is double covered and the box is stacked. The Fish is out of water. We need a change.

49ers may actually be a good team. Kelly lost his team in Philly with his personnel decisions. 49ers took those away from him and now he's just focusing on coaching. With that said, theres a few coaches I would love to have under the same circumstances as Chip.

Harbaugh is at the top of the list. This offense is being built the way SF was under him. He would be the wisest choice. Especially is we could keep GW. Imagine if every side of the ball was equally as fired up and aggressive.

Shannahan would be perfect. I'd give him a little more input in decisions, but I'd keep him away from the D.

Norv Turner. Dude couldn't build a team to save his life, but he can coach them. Keep Snead, (He's brought in more talent to this team in 5 years than the Rams have had since Martz), and let Turner do his thing.

 

[Rambo]

Sonny Dykes. Ram Raid offense.

 

[thirteen28]

Shannahan would be perfect. I'd give him a little more input in decisions, but I'd keep him away from the D.

That would definitely be the rub with Shanahan - he'd have to keep us as a 4-3 team, where he's always hired 3-4 guys before. He did precipitate the Albert Hayneswroth blowup in Washington, trying to make him a 3-4 NT one year after he was signed to be the interior anchor of a 4-3 defense. There is no place for Quinn and Donald in a 3-4, and possibly not even for Brockers. So as a condition, the DC has to run a 4-3.

 

[Dodgersrf]

That would definitely be the rub with Shanahan - he'd have to keep us as a 4-3 team, where he's always hired 3-4 guys before. He did precipitate the Albert Hayneswroth blowup in Washington, trying to make him a 3-4 NT one year after he was signed to be the interior anchor of a 4-3 defense. There is no place for Quinn and Donald in a 3-4, and possibly not even for Brockers. So as a condition, the DC has to run a 4-3.

It certainly is tough to go from a 4-2 to a 3-4 with 1 legitimate LB.

 

[-X-]

This was probably a directive and not so much a Fisher decision too, IMO.

Yeah, I quoted myself. But .... it's all starting to fall into place.


View: https://twitter.com/Irv_H/status/775752960806621185

 

[LACHAMP46]

I've stood up for Fisher and I want to like the guy, but it's been four years of inconsistency, unpreparedness, and just general sloppiness.

I do like Fish....Seems like a nice fellow...Great values an all...Just think the game has passed him by...Looks like the players want him out too....skunked on Nat. TV???? That tells a lot right there....

I can understand the remark about Quick

Seriously loved your comment except this...with this QB play, how can Quick really be responsible for his numbers? Felt the same way about Cook too...

no love for Todd Haley?

Me love Todd Haley...I look at the Steelers like the 2000 Rams...I just drool at the talent & the ability.....and the way they are used.

TODD HALEY is absolutely killing it. Having failed once as head coach is something I view as a positive, too, coming off his current performance. It means he knows how important stacking the staff is, vice putting buddies on it, and a million other details you can only learn the hard way.

JOSH MCDANIELS same deal. Doing a great job as OC, but also has been exposed to the best organization in football and the best head coach. Also failed once as a head coach, again a big positive for me.

Great list Merlin....

KEN WHISENHUNT is a coach who is often maligned but has a ton of experience, brings strong offensive savvy, and has actually seen a Super Bowl as a head coach. Chargers' offense is already off to a good start with his return to the organization as OC.

So many good choices outside the NFL too...

NICK SABAN is only going to talk to a top destination type team. The Rams are one of them now so he would be in play if Stan is interested in him.

JIM HARBAUGH looks like the next Saban in terms of watch out once he gets dug in there in Michigan. Would he listen to a big money offer, full power, and a strong roster under a patient owner? I think so.

Keep em coming!!!!!:yess:

GARY PATTERSON has probably done more with less than any coach of this current college lineup. The dude can flat-out coach this game and develop talent, what he's done with TCU is very impressive. Defensive background but seems to have a very good grasp of overall team management and offense as well.

JIMBO FISHER is a hell of a coach at Florida State, had a "bad" year at 10-3 last year but is a guy who has a very strong offensive background and did a great job preparing Jameis for the NFL. Dude is legit in my estimation.

DAVID SHAW is a favorite around here and for good reason. Dude has done a great job running the show at Stanford in replacing Harbaugh and deserves a shot just as much as any other collegiate head coach. Brings strong offensive knowledge seasoned by both playing under guys like Walsh and Green, plus serving on NFL team staffs.

Great ideas bro! My thoughts, college coach...offensive minded but will look at a great guy like the Dantonio dude from a solid program....need some new blood...young blood....So I'm open minded...any others I've thought about...Jim Bob...maybe...who's the OC with Green Bay, that McCarthy fellow...oh yeah, he's the HC...
Leaning for Shaw...or the guy that WAS at Ohio State...the sweater dude...isn't he at some small school in Ohio???:mrburnsevil:

 

[LACHAMP46]

Yeah, I quoted myself. But .... it's all starting to fall into place.


View: https://twitter.com/Irv_H/status/775752960806621185

I always thought, these dudes go for upside & measurables...no way, you stand Goff side by side with Wentz, then look at film and you take Goff over that ginger...no fucking way....Hell, Snead probably wanted to stay at 15..or even trade back and take Lynch, Connor Cook or Brissett.. Maybe even Hackenberg....and yeah, Hackenberg can STILL PLAY....

 

[den-the-coach]

Norv Turner. Dude couldn't build a team to save his life, but he can coach them. Keep Snead, (He's brought in more talent to this team in 5 years than the Rams have had since Martz), and let Turner do his thing.

Turner a 3 time loser in Washington, Oakland & San Diego, no thanks!

 

[den-the-coach]

Maybe even Hackenberg....and yeah, Hackenberg can STILL PLAY....

Hackenberg sucks, sorry, he can't play, however, with Wentz & Goff it was body of work and competition vs bigger and playing under center and making adjustments at the line of scrimmage.

 

[thirteen28]

Seriously loved your comment except this...with this QB play, how can Quick really be responsible for his numbers? Felt the same way about Cook too...

I've seen too many drops that hit him right on the hands, and not nearly enough catches of contested balls for a guy of his physical stature. Like Fisher, I've given Quick a long leash and a lot of benefit of the doubt, but I've seen enough at this point that I'm willing to move on.

Cook had some bad drops too, and I've seen him quit on more than one route. Not missing him.

 

[LACHAMP46]

@den-the-coach
LOLOLOL-LOL!!! Nah man, Hackenberg can really throw the rock...You know that...All he needs is confidence....Love to see him in a year or two....just you wait.:shades:

I've seen too many drops that hit him right on the hands, and not nearly enough catches of contested balls for a guy of his physical stature. Like Fisher, I've given Quick a long leash and a lot of benefit of the doubt, but I've seen enough at this point that I'm willing to move on.

Cook had some bad drops too, and I've seen him quit on more than one route. Not missing him.

So...how did you feel when Tavon dropped the ball last night? How about his year with Sam, when we tried to go to a more up-tempo, spread it around offense? Do you judge him as critically? just curious.....opcorn:

 

[thirteen28]

@den-the-coach
LOLOLOL-LOL!!! Nah man, Hackenberg can really throw the rock...You know that...All he needs is confidence....Love to see him in a year or two....just you wait.:shades:
So...how did you feel when Tavon dropped the ball last night? How about his year with Sam, when we tried to go to a more up-tempo, spread it around offense? Do you judge him as critically? just curious.....opcorn:

Certainly not happy about it, and I will judge him critically for dropping passes he should catch. At the same time, Tavon has made a big impact for this team in the running game and in special teams, and had more TD's in one season last year than Quick has in his career - even though Quick has been here a year longer.

As for the year with Sam when they tried to go more up tempo, he did have a few good games, including one against the Colts where he basically blew up and destroyed them, with one punt return and 2 long TD receptions. We've seen Tavon make a huge impact before, I've yet to see Quick do that.

 

[LACHAMP46]

had more TD's in one season last year than Quick has in his career - even though Quick has been here a year longer.

More touches....more targets....not a fair sample....look at TD's per touches...sure that Pro Football Ref. can do something like that...

We've seen Tavon make a huge impact before, I've yet to see Quick do that.

You must have missed the start of the 2014 season?....again...no excuses for this guy, but he's clearly a better WIDE RECEIVER....if we want to move the ball, it would be wiser to target receivers like Britt, Kendricks, and Quick...with throws...mixed in with a lil, very little of Tavon Austin....sorta like we used Az Hakim